Day of Days

Heckler

Arsemageddon wrote: »

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Agreed 100%



Have to take issue with this bit. I would contend that we are now so utterly distant from WW2 that we have no comprehension of what it must have been like.

I have no time for those who seek to portray themselves as solemn and reverential for events they had no had no hand, act or part in.

Official state commemorations? I've no problem with that.

Commemorations by combatants or their immediate family? Of course, by all means.

Grossly simplistic, cliché riddled attempted thanks whoring threads in after hours? Not for me, thank you very much

Any examples of cliche and thanks whoring ?

Heckler

So you have no problem with state commemorations that might soon involve 1916 but anyone who was actually in WW2 and fought isn't worth a damn and there should be no recognition of the same.

Arsemageddon

Heckler wrote: »

Any examples of cliche and thanks whoring ?

Pretty much all of you posts so far.

Heckler wrote: »

So you have no problem with statecommemorations that might soon involve 1916 but anyone who was actually in WW2 and fought isn't worth a damn and there should be no recognition of the same.

No that's not what I posted.

Official state commemorations and commemorations by those who were involved and their families are fine by me. Anyone else is just jumping on the bandwagon.

Heckler

Arsemageddon wrote: »

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Agreed 100%



Have to take issue with this bit. I would contend that we are now so utterly distant from WW2 that we have no comprehension of what it must have been like.

I have no time for those who seek to portray themselves as solemn and reverential for events they had no had no hand, act or part in.

Official state commemorations? I've no problem with that.

Commemorations by combatants or their immediate family? Of course, by all means.

Grossly simplistic, cliché riddled attempted thanks whoring threads in after hours? Not for me, thank you very much

I had no hand, act or part in the liberation of Europe in WW2 and am in awe (you might call it reverential) of the people who did it.

Arsemageddon

Heckler wrote: »

Arsemageddon wrote: »

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I had no hand, act or part in the liberation of Europe in WW2 and am in awe (you might call it reverential) of the people who did it.

.....and my response to this is 'so what?'

Heckler

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Pretty much all of you posts so far.



No that's not what I posted.

Official state commemorations and commemorations by those who were involved and their families are fine by me. Anyone else is just jumping on the bandwagon.

Ok. I thought my OP was short and sweet. What is your problem with it ? You think it's me glamming on the date and hoping for thanks ? Look at my post history and you'll see I'm not a thanks whore.

Heckler

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Heckler wrote: »

.....and my response to this is 'so what?'

And my response is just **** off you annoying idiot

Heckler

Is 1916 before 1942 ? so confuzzed.

Arsemageddon

Heckler wrote: »

Ok. I thought my OP was short and sweet. What is your problem with it ? You think it's me glamming on the date and hoping for thanks ? Look at my post history and you'll see I'm not a thanks whore.

It was indeed short and sweet.

My first problem is that you picked one of the three dates everyone knows for WW2 (The others being the invasion of Poland and Pearl Harbour). The importance of D-day is greatly overestimated in Britain and the US and grossly represented in Film, TV and sh1te on the History channel. Of course D-day was significant but it was far not the pivotal battle of WW2, matter of fact it probably isn't even in the top ten most important battles of the war. Added to that was your flippant response to my question about whether or not you would be commemorating the launch of Operation Bagration.

My second problem is your rather vexed responses to those who disagreed with you and your inability to use the multi-quote function.

Arsemageddon

Heckler wrote: »

And my response is just **** off you annoying idiot

Does this mean your not coming to my birthday party?

Heckler wrote: »

Is 1916 before 1942 ? so confuzzed.

That doesn't surprise me.

Heckler

Arsemageddon wrote: »

It was indeed short and sweet.

My first problem is that you picked one of the three dates everyone knows for WW2 (The others being the invasion of Poland and Pearl Harbour). The importance of D-day is greatly overestimated in Britain and the US and grossly represented in Film, TV and sh1te on the History channel. This was compounded by your flippant response to my question about whether or not you would be commemorating the launch of Operation Bagration.

My second problem is your rather vexed responses to those who disagreed with you and your inability to use the multi-quote function.

My OP wasn't about Operation Bagration. You want to talk about that start your own thread. Your "first" problem is I picked a one of three dates that everyone knows about. I know how how to multi quote.

**** off

Pa994

No matter what happens you are never going to get the complete truth unless it is experienced by you personally and even then some fool will try to deny it ever happened. War is an atrocity, but without it, science would not be where it is today so dare I say it, a necessary atrocity. OP after hours probably wasn't the best place to put this thread unless you originally intended on dealing with resistance.

Call Me Jimmy

Second wave always gets me. The first guys get torn to shreds, then the guys behind them who's lives they saved by absorbing those bullets have a moment to go 'okay, now I go'

fair play

Fleawuss

ThinkProgress wrote: »

We should declare war on germany! Just for the craic like. See if they actually took us seriously!

War looked like so much fun... adventure, excitement, legal killing etc.

What is our generation's war? We live in such boring times...

Be careful what you wish for.

Son Of A Vidic

Heckler wrote: »

The day thousands upon thousands of young men threw themselves against Hitlers Atlantic Wall to free Europe from Nazism.

I've never served but have been to Normandy a couple of times for the celebrations and as the last survivors of D-Day near their end years I hope their sacrifice and that of their fallen comrades is never forgotten.

Speaking of forgetting, most in the West seem to have forgotten about the tens of millions of Russians who died fighting Nazism. So if we are in the business of honouring blood sacrifice, then we should acknowledge their sacrifice. Because without the unimaginable suffering endured by the Russians. Operation Overlord would have been driven back into the sea and Europe would be a very different place today.

Cold War Kid

You can be anti war and still feel compassion for the young men (many of them not much older than boys) who lost their lives to, what they believed, protect their country and its people, and the people of other countries too.
They didn't start the war in fairness.

ThinkProgress

The victorious nations always have the luxury of writing history!

What the allied forces did by dropping atomic bombs on two Japanese cities was every bit as gruesome as what hitler did in those concentration camps!

The japs were seen as a sub human species by many "right thinking" nations.

And the seeds of racism and nazism were actually planted in Britain and the USA.

Germany merely adopted those views and acted on them in a very proactive way.

In truth, Britain was probably the most racist nation on earth around the time the nazis came to power.

But history remembers them as the slayers of the great evil nazi empire.