Worst Irish summer ?

sryanbruen

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

I think he meant it in the sense of "It's funny how quickly one forgets some of the awful Summers that we've had previously

I have records of the weather going back to my first childhood - but if you asked me about the 23rd July 1988 - I'd have to look it up.

What about the windstorm??

Schadenfreudia

sryanbruen wrote: »

What about the windstorm??

Was there one on 23rd July 1988? :eek:

sryanbruen

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Was there one on 23rd July 1988? :eek:

No it was on the 25th - 2 days later

BuilderPlumber

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

I think he meant it in the sense of "It's funny how quickly one forgets some of the awful Summers that we've had previously

I have records of the weather going back to my first childhood - but if you asked me about the 23rd July 1988 - I'd have to look it up.

Certain weather dates stick out in one's head. Like:

August 2, 1997 when 5 days of non stop rain commenced.
December 24, 1997 when violent hurricane force winds ruined Christmas.
December 26, 1998 when violent hurricane force winds ruined the post Christmas period.
November 37, 2010 when a month of bad snow and ice commenced.
February 12, 2014 when we saw unseasonally violent hurricane force winds.

There have been a few really really bad summers (just going from the past 20 years, these would be 1997, 2002, 2007, 2008, 2009 and possibly 2012). And a few very good ones (1995, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2013 and 2014). Most including this one are in between with a mix of good and bad. July this year taken alone was one of the worst Julys ever.

sryanbruen

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Certain weather dates stick out in one's head. Like:

August 2, 1997 when 5 days of non stop rain commenced.
December 24, 1997 when violent hurricane force winds ruined Christmas.
December 26, 1998 when violent hurricane force winds ruined the post Christmas period.
November 37, 2010 when a month of bad snow and ice commenced.
February 12, 2014 when we saw unseasonally violent hurricane force winds.

There have been a few really really bad summers (just going from the past 20 years, these would be 1997, 2002, 2007, 2008, 2009 and possibly 2012). And a few very good ones (1995, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2013 and 2014). Most including this

2012 was extremely bad!

Look at the summaries of the Summers of 2008 and 2012 respectively

June: Exceptionally wet, dull and mild in most places / Wettest June on record. Very dull and cool
July: Very wet and dull in most places. Mainly warm / Extremely cold, wet and dull
August: Wettest and dullest August on record in places. Warm nights make all the difference / Mainly dull, wet and warm (all not exceptionally so)

Schadenfreudia

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Certain weather dates stick out in one's head. Like:

Off-hand I can't remember

August 2, 1997 when 5 days of non stop rain commenced.

but the rest, definitely.

There have been a few really really bad summers (just going from the past 20 years, these would be 1997, 2002, 2007, 2008, 2009 and possibly 2012). And a few very good ones (1995, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2013 and 2014).

Oddly I remember all the good ones - but '97 and '02...I'd have to look them up....

sryanbruen

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Off-hand I can't remember



but the rest, definitely.



Oddly I remember all the good ones - but '97 and '02...I'd have to look them up....

You know you can look them up on Met Éireann's weather bulletins

Philburns

I have lived in south Sligo for the last 25 years and have only experienced 3 good summers so far: 1995 - 2003 - 2014

sryanbruen

Philburns wrote: »

I have lived in south Sligo for the last 25 years and have only experienced 3 good summers so far: 1995 - 2003 - 2014

Why what was so bad about 2013?

Philburns

Actually 2013 wasn't too bad, I remember there was a ridiculously hot spell for a couple of weeks, nearly too hot, but overall it wasn't what I would call great.

sryanbruen

Philburns wrote: »

Actually 2013 wasn't too bad, I remember there was a ridiculously hot spell for a couple of weeks, nearly too hot, but overall it wasn't what I would call great.

Yeah that was July 2013 but for me it was an awesome hot spell! Mad thing was that at my station Grange, July 2006 was still hotter which recorded 18.4c and 2013 recorded 18.3c. 2013 was a very quiet Summer other than that hot spell!

June 2013 was unremarkably dry, sunny and MILD month
July 2013 was exceptionally warm and sunny but quite wet (out with a bang!)
August 2013 was unremarkably dry, dull and warm.

BuilderPlumber

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Off-hand I can't remember



but the rest, definitely.



Oddly I remember all the good ones - but '97 and '02...I'd have to look them up....

The thing about the 1997 5 days non-stop rain depended on where one was. I was in Clonmel at the time and it was the worst summer ever down south. On the other hand, counties like Longford, Leitrim and Cavan got a lovely summer that year. The 5 days nonstop rain was restricted to Southern areas like Wexford, South Tipperary, Cork, Kilkenny, etc. 2002 was another very poor summer with lots of prolonged rain, a bad enough thunder storm and heavy showers of rain and hail.

Lumi

Mod Note

Time to get back on topic guys!
This is the 'Worst Irish Summer' Thread not 'Winters I have Known and Loved'

If you want to keep this discussion going then start a new thread.

Thanks

EDIT : some posts moved to new thread here
Let's keep the snow out of summer guys

sryanbruen

One of the worst SUMMER days in Ireland was the 1 July 1997 due to a northerly airstream bringing very unseasonably cold conditions for July in Ireland. Maximums widely on this day were only of 10-12c.

Xenji

sryanbruen wrote: »

One of the worst SUMMER days in Ireland was the 1 July 1997 due to a northerly airstream bringing very unseasonably cold conditions for July in Ireland. Maximums widely on this day were only of 10-12c.

Sounds like the whole summer in Mayo this year.

sryanbruen

Xenji wrote: »

Sounds like the whole summer in Mayo this year.

Well it isn't, Mayo has had at least 14c on every day this Summer so far.

Grange has had its lowest number of days with 20c or more since Summer 2002 with only 13 days {June 16th, 17th, 18th, 23rd, 29th, 30th, July 1st-3rd and August 2nd, 12th, 13th, 18th} compared to the average of 37 days.

sryanbruen

sryanbruen wrote: »

Well it isn't, Mayo has had at least 14c on every day this Summer so far.

Grange has had its lowest number of days with 20c or more since Summer 2002 with only 13 days {June 16th, 17th, 18th, 23rd, 29th, 30th, July 1st-3rd and August 2nd, 12th, 13th, 18th} compared to the average of 37 days.

It has already been my second coldest Summer on record since 1986. 2011 wasn't that cold overall (at Grange at least) thanks to some warm days in June and July though both months were colder than normal amazingly.

Xenji

sryanbruen wrote: »

Well it isn't, Mayo has had at least 14c on every day this Summer so far.

Grange has had its lowest number of days with 20c or more since Summer 2002 with only 13 days {June 16th, 17th, 18th, 23rd, 29th, 30th, July 1st-3rd and August 2nd, 12th, 13th, 18th} compared to the average of 37 days.

Ah it has actually, Belmullet recorded sub 13C temps for the first 2 days in June, while Knock recorded 11.7C, I recorded a a couple of sub 14C days in Castlebar as well.

sryanbruen

Xenji wrote: »

Ah it has actually, Belmullet recorded sub 13C temps for the first 2 days in June, while Knock recorded 11.7C, I recorded a a couple of sub 14C days in Castlebar as well.

Weird I could of sworn temperatures rose at least 14-17c on the 2nd of June? Tbh I wasn't even paying attention to the 1st as it wasn't like a Summer day at all.

sryanbruen

Summer 2012 was my second worst Summer according to the poulter index with 2008 and 2007 not far behind but 1986 is still at #1. Comfortkid, here are my daily rainfall totals recorded in June 2012 to show you how bad this month was:

Friday 1st: 0mm
Saturday 2nd: 19.8mm
Sunday 3rd: 17.2mm
Monday 4th: 0mm
Tuesday 5th: 12.1mm
Wednesday 6th: 4.7mm
Thursday 7th: 46.2mm
Friday 8th: 26.3mm
Saturday 9th: 0.2mm
Sunday 10th: 0mm
Monday 11th: 0mm
Tuesday 12th: 6.7mm
Wednesday 13th: 1.1mm
Thursday 14th: 15.5mm
Friday 15th: 2.3mm
Saturday 16th: 0mm
Sunday 17th: 1.2mm
Monday 18th: 1.2mm
Tuesday 19th: 0mm
Wednesday 20th: 0mm
Thursday 21st: 6.9mm
Friday 22nd: 1.1mm
Saturday 23rd: 6.3mm
Sunday 24th: 0mm
Monday 25th: 0mm
Tuesday 26th: 0.4mm
Wednesday 27th: 6.9mm
Thursday 28th: 4.1mm
Friday 29th: 0mm
Saturday 30th: 2.1mm

Total: 182.4mm - 378% of the LTA

Schadenfreudia

Does Poulter not rate 1985 as worse than '86?

sryanbruen

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Does Poulter not rate 1985 as worse than '86?

Again remember Grange's records started in 1986! And even if it did have 1985 as one of the years of records, 1986 would still be worse according to Donaghmede-Baldoyle (previous station)'s poulter index

Schadenfreudia

sryanbruen wrote: »

Again remember Grange's records started in 1986! And even if it did have 1985 as one of the years of records, 1986 would still be worse according to Donaghmede-Baldoyle (previous station)'s poulter index

You seem to have a micro-climate within the East Coast micro-climate!

sryanbruen

What do u mean?

cute geoge

Down here in kerry it is a bleak,cold and damp summer ,hard to call if it worse as 07 ,08 and 09 but it is as bad anyway .
2012 was definitely the worst
Baled some hay in marsy ground on 15/8 which was not possible to travel in 2012
The same marshy ground was baled in silage barely in 1998 and 2002 was another tough summer down here .As far as i remember we got great
falls in 1998,02 ,07 and 09 which made up a small bit for the sad summers but by god all we got in 2012 was a bare 6 days from around 2nd-8th of september and then continous rain with a lot of cattle indoors in july,august and sep. it led to the fodder shortage in the following spring 2013
1-2012
2-2009
3-tie between 98,02,07,08 and 2015

sryanbruen

cute geoge wrote: »

Down here in kerry it is a bleak,cold and damp summer ,hard to call if it worse as 07 ,08 and 09 but it is as bad anyway .
2012 was definitely the worst
Baled some hay in marsy ground on 15/8 which was not possible to travel in 2012
The same marshy ground was baled in silage barely in 1998 and 2002 was another tough summer down here .As far as i remember we got great
falls in 1998,02 ,07 and 09 which made up a small bit for the sad summers but by god all we got in 2012 was a bare 6 days from around 2nd-8th of september and then continous rain with a lot of cattle indoors in july,august and sep. it led to the fodder shortage in the following spring 2013
1-2012
2-2009
3-tie between 98,02,07,08 and 2015

Spring 2013 wasn't even Spring at all! It was very cold throughout with March the coldest on record (at least in my records). Yeah Summer 2002 was horrible in my area. Though it was wetter than normal, it wasn't anything exceptional compared to how cool and DULL it was, OMG I can't get over how many sunny days I had that Summer. I only had 3 very sunny days all that Summer (days with 10 hours or more). This Summer has more than 15! So compare that.

Birdnuts

cute geoge wrote: »

Down here in kerry it is a bleak,cold and damp summer ,hard to call if it worse as 07 ,08 and 09 but it is as bad anyway .
2012 was definitely the worst
Baled some hay in marsy ground on 15/8 which was not possible to travel in 2012
The same marshy ground was baled in silage barely in 1998 and 2002 was another tough summer down here .As far as i remember we got great
falls in 1998,02 ,07 and 09 which made up a small bit for the sad summers but by god all we got in 2012 was a bare 6 days from around 2nd-8th of september and then continous rain with a lot of cattle indoors in july,august and sep. it led to the fodder shortage in the following spring 2013
1-2012
2-2009
3-tie between 98,02,07,08 and 2015

I'd agree with a lot of that but for me this summer has been the coldest I can ever remember.

OldRio

This year has been the worse for the last 15 IMHO. Cold, wet and very little sun. '10 hours of sunshine a day?' In april. not since.

sryanbruen

OldRio wrote: »

This year has been the worse for the last 15 IMHO. Cold, wet and very little sun. '10 hours of sunshine a day?' In april. not since.

These are all the very sunny days (10 hours or more) Grange recorded this Summer:

7th June
8th June
9th June
10th June
23rd June
30th June
3rd July
12th August
13th August
14th August
18th August
20th August
21st August

OldRio

sryanbruen wrote: »

These are all the very sunny days (10 hours or more) Grange recorded this Summer:

7th June
8th June
9th June
10th June
23rd June
30th June
3rd July
12th August
13th August
14th August
18th August
20th August
21st August

I wonder, can you tell me the distance in miles/kilometers from Grange to Ballinamore in Leitrim ?
In other words the weather in 'Grange' is somewhat different to the weather not just in Ballinamore but the rest of the country.