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  • #902
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Kev W wrote: »
    That your PhD wasn't in a relevant field. I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from, frankly.

    Youth Defence will probably still use him in a survey to prove "look at all these pro-liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife doctors" in a manner reminiscent of Dolores Umbridge.


  • #903
    Demonique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Demonique


    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    ^ No hospital will resuscitate at 19 weeks, considering that the earliest known surving premature baby was born at 21 weeks, and survival at 23 weeks or earlier is very rare.

    Isn't the survival rate at 23 weeks only about 25%?
    NachoBusiness wrote: »
    Were I living in the UK with my 22 week gone pregnant girlfriend, and we both wanted to end the pregnancy and on the way to the abortion clinic she goes into labour and the baby gets hooked up to an incubator, we could not get the doctors to let that baby die.

    Parents are allowed to request withdrawing treatment from babies born at 23 weeks or less in the UK though.


  • #904
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Kev W wrote: »
    That your PhD wasn't in a relevant field. I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from, frankly.

    I never claimed it was. I was informed that I definitely wasn't a doctor and I pointed out that I was, nothing more.


  • #905
    Demonique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Demonique


    NachoBusiness wrote: »
    24 weeks is the legal limit in the UK. That's pretty damn close to two thirds in anyone's book.



    You have totally avoided the point I was making, so I will make it again.

    Babies have survived in the UK at 22 weeks and so I'll will make my point again, maybe you could address it:

    Well in the UK the vast majority of babies born at 23 weeks don't survive so those twins are the exception rather than the rule.

    And in the UK parents have successfully requested treatment withdrawn from babies born at 23 weeks


  • #906
    NachoBusiness
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Demonique wrote: »
    Well in the UK the vast majority of babies born at 23 weeks don't survive so those twins are the exception rather than the rule.

    And in the UK parents have successfully requested treatment withdrawn from babies born at 23 weeks

    That's true but while early second trimester babies born prematurely would never survive (even with incubation) they are still alive while in the womb. Their heart is regulated by their brain, they can suck their thumbs, they can swallow etc and so while viability is a good argument against abortion (use it myself) lack of viability is not a sufficient argument for it.


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