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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭jake1970


    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Well that's better news than you expected rest up now and do what you're told :)
    Murph_D wrote: »
    Not too bad. Used to get them in my football days. They can be persistent enough though so do what you're told. ;)

    Great to hear the injury is not too serious, now recover well and do what you're told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    jake1970 wrote: »
    Great to hear the injury is not too serious, now recover well and do what you're told.

    B... I know your inner rebel is getting revved up here... Resist!! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    annapr wrote: »
    B... I know your inner rebel is getting revved up here... Resist!! :p

    We could try reverse psychology?

    Singer, do what you want! It's worked before, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭diego_b


    Glad to hear it's nothing major, used to get them a bit a few years back playing football (when I was heavy) but rest seemed to sort them. Odd one to get running, not something I would think of as running injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    diego_b wrote: »
    Glad to hear it's nothing major, used to get them a bit a few years back playing football (when I was heavy) but rest seemed to sort them. Odd one to get running, not something I would think of as running injury.

    I bet he bobs and weaves in between people like a footballer on his run commutes. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    I'm a bit behind here - sorry to hear about the injury, LOL to getting dubgal to drunk post and glad to hear it's not quite as bad as you thought initially. Hope you are actually doing what you're told and resting up!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭PaulieYifter


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Wow that's some Run B. was the tide out? Its years since I was down there but I definitely walked along the estuary from swords to kilcrea admittedly many moons ago. if you went straigh on where you turned up towards the hearse road I think theres road just around that corner. The tide would have to be out though

    I work out that direction so If it was possible it would open up a runmute option for me, I hoped to get to the kilcrea gate of newbridge and then to Donabate station through the park but the tide was right up to that big wall this morning so there was no way of getting any further.
    Singer wrote: »
    Yeh, tide was in, no way of getting past without getting very wet. It was good fun running in new places, and the country roads were nice for a change of scenery. I hope the proposed cycle/walk lane between Malahide and Newbridge House sees the light of day, it'd open up a load of new routes.

    Singer has already seen it on Strava but for the record I went that way on Saturday morning - tide was half way out so managed to keep the feet dry - had to hug the wall on the out journey but had a few more inches to work with on the return. Beautiful morning for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Wow that's some Run B. was the tide out? Its years since I was down there but I definitely walked along the estuary from swords to kilcrea admittedly many moons ago. if you went straigh on where you turned up towards the hearse road I think theres road just around that corner. The tide would have to be out though

    I work out that direction so If it was possible it would open up a runmute option for me, I hoped to get to the kilcrea gate of newbridge and then to Donabate station through the park but the tide was right up to that big wall this morning so there was no way of getting any further.
    Singer wrote: »
    Yeh, tide was in, no way of getting past without getting very wet. It was good fun running in new places, and the country roads were nice for a change of scenery. I hope the proposed cycle/walk lane between Malahide and Newbridge House sees the light of day, it'd open up a load of new routes.

    Singer has already seen it on Strava but for the record I went that way on Saturday morning - tide was half way out so managed to keep the feet dry - had to hug the wall on the out journey but had a few more inches to work with on the return. Beautiful morning for it.


    Oh. Did you get all the way around to Kilcrea and the road up to Newbridge?

    If so it it would certainly be worth checking the tides and heading out that way for long runs when they permit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Wow that's some Run B. was the tide out? Its years since I was down there but I definitely walked along the estuary from swords to kilcrea admittedly many moons ago. if you went straigh on where you turned up towards the hearse road I think theres road just around that corner. The tide would have to be out though

    I work out that direction so If it was possible it would open up a runmute option for me, I hoped to get to the kilcrea gate of newbridge and then to Donabate station through the park but the tide was right up to that big wall this morning so there was no way of getting any further.
    Singer wrote: »
    Yeh, tide was in, no way of getting past without getting very wet. It was good fun running in new places, and the country roads were nice for a change of scenery. I hope the proposed cycle/walk lane between Malahide and Newbridge House sees the light of day, it'd open up a load of new routes.

    Singer has already seen it on Strava but for the record I went that way on Saturday morning - tide was half way out so managed to keep the feet dry - had to hug the wall on the out journey but had a few more inches to work with on the return. Beautiful morning for it.


    Oh. Did you get all the way around to Kilcrea and the road up to Newbridge?

    If so it it would certainly be worth checking the tides and heading out that way for long runs when they permit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭PaulieYifter


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Oh. Did you get all the way around to Kilcrea and the road up to Newbridge?

    If so it it would certainly be worth checking the tides and heading out that way for long runs when they permit

    Yep - then in through the Kilcrea gate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Yep - then in through the Kilcrea gate.

    Brilliant that opens up some nice routes if the tides were right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    7 days without running :eek: As it happens, it wasn't the worst 7 days to be running, life more than made up for all my new found time - work was very busy, and my now 6 year old had a birthday which involved multiple social events. The injury itself went as hoped - by Wednesday or so I was walking normally and not feeling any pain. For the first time in a long time I hit the gym to do some weights. Predictably I over did it, and suffered for a couple of days from pains from muscles that haven't been worked on in yonks - at least it covered up the pain from my hamstring! One other thing this week was that I was conscious not to continue eating like a horse doing marathon training. Since I stepped up the mileage this time last year I've been eating whatever I want, YOLO style, but my weight has been pretty stable. Obviously this is not sustainable when not running all the time to burn off the food.

    Despite being busy, I spent a lot of time mulling over the injury in my head. There were some warning signs, but even more interesting is that all my injuries so far have been on my left hand side. Sore shoulder? Left side. Sore foot that kept me out for a few weeks last year? Left side. Strain during the marathon? Left side. Hamstring injury? Left side. I guess there's a chance it's coincidence, but more than likely there's something common in some of these. (As it happens, last year's bout of pleurisy and the previous year's thyroid woes were also on the left hand side!). During my long runs up to and including the marathon last year, my left leg would get tired a lot sooner than my right - I mentioned it a few times (it's really cool to have logs to read through for this kind of thing):

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97513235&postcount=7546 "my left leg was a bit stiff"
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=95961804&postcount=10 "I  noticed a *lot* of stiffness in my left leg"


    So, what to do… I did actually enjoy the gym session, so maybe I'll do more strength training? We'll see.

    The mind wanders when you're injured, even when you're not really badly injured. Have I lost all my fitness? Do I remember how to run? What if my hamstring flares back up immediately? How will I know if I'm doing myself damage? Will this be a disaster? In the end the only way to answer all these questions is to just get back out. After an enjoyable Saturday afternoon in Jumpzone as part of the birthday celebrations (not participating in the jumping around unfortunately, probably not the best recovery for the hamstring), I managed to squeeze in a run during the afternoon when it was gloriously sunny and warm. By now I was just getting very excited to be running again and not worrying about my hamstring. I set off around Swords, and did a glorious 5 miles in the heat. I felt amazingly fresh and like I was gliding along. My hamstring was a noticeably tight at times but there was no pain. It's very refreshing just running for the joy of it, not worrying about pace or purpose or anything at all. Just running.

    Of course I slightly overdid it :pac: running 5 miles instead of 5k, and the pace didn't go below 8'30. Later on in the day my hamstring was noticeably tight again, but not sore to move or touch.

    Date|Distance|Pace|Notes
    4th June|5 miles|8'24|Wonderful miles around Swords
    5th June|8 miles|8'12|Dropped the 6 year old at another birthday party in Malahide, and set off for a lovely run along the coast, including a mile or so on Portmarnock beach. Not only was it wonderfully warm, there was some sort of swimming event on there, as well as a few serious looking volleyball courts setup - very idyllic stuff altogether :)


    Total: 13 miles

    May Total: 214 miles

    Next week: Easy miles, including actual rest days, and maybe a gym visit or two. I'm off to Porto for the smaller Primavera Sound festival (well, 2 days of it) on Friday, and Bungy style I of course checked out were there any races on while away. It turns out there's a pretty good race on that I signed up for! The Corrida de S. Joao looks like a decent 15k, I think it goes along the river/coast, avoiding Porto's notorious hills. It looks like this is Porto's equivalent of the Frank Duffy, it's part of a load of races put on by "RunPorto". Obviously coming off an injury I'd be nuts to go all out on this, it's definitely more just to experience a race in another country and an excuse to get out running. That is, if I make it at all - it's on 10AM on a Sunday morning after two days on the beer at a music festival, there's a reasonable chance I might still be in bed / still out :)

    I may show up to support in the WMM - my better half is doing it, she's been doing a bit of jogging with some of the parents from school. She also got herself signed up for the Fingal 10k, so the running bug is spreading...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Singer wrote: »

    Of course I slightly overdid it :pac: running 5 miles instead of 5k, and the pace didn't go below 8'30. Later on in the day my hamstring was noticeably tight again, but not sore to move or touch.

    ... It looks like this is Porto's equivalent of the Frank Duffy, it's part of a load of races put on by "RunPorto". Obviously coming off an injury I'd be nuts to go all out on this, it's definitely more just to experience a race in another country and an excuse to get out running.

    ..

    You're gas :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,483 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Hamstring? What happened to the groin strain? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    I meant my groin. Total brainfart. My hamstring is grand :)

    Anyway, it's holding up great, zero discomfort or pain after running 10 and 11 miles home over the last two days. I did avoid an opportunity to do an IMRA race this evening, so I'm still being slightly sensible :)

    If I'm sober enough on Sunday I might do the 15k at PMP, but no promises.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Last week was interesting enough, and as threatened included a not-all-out 15k race.

    After last Sunday's run my <strike>hamstring</strike>groin was a little tender, so I took Monday easy and hit the gym instead. Tuesday and Wednesday both had wonderful discomfort-free run commutes home. I took it easy enough again on Thursday and Friday, and flew over to Porto for a Friday evening involving Brian Wilson, Savages, PJ Harvey and Beach House.

    On Saturday lunchtime I trotted down to collect my race pack in a local mall which was handily beside FC Porto's stadium, around which I did a few laps. That afternoon we happened to be heading down to Foz, which is where Sunday morning's race was - the last time we were in Porto a couple of years ago, we found an amazing restaurant there and had a nice stroll to the festival along a promenade, so we decided to do the same again this year, and it happened to be a decent recce for the race - the start/finish line was being setup while we were there. The food in Foz was amazing, as was the sangria, as were the beers in the bars we popped into on the way to the festival, as were the 3.50 pints of Super Bock at the festival, and finally as were the 3 "caipirilitros" I had (giant caipirinhas). We crashed back home about... 1AM? I was sensible and had just one beer in the apartment before heading to bed. Needless to say I wasn't in a great state on race morning, however I peeled myself out of bed, slowly got dressed and caught the metro into town and then a cab to Foz. I did a worryingly warm warm-up, bucketing sweat but not feeling too quesy. It was a gorgeous morning, about 20 degrees with a bit of a cooling wind off the Atlantic. There was a decent buzz around the race start, with a nice carnival atmosphere, as the race tied in with a local festival. I lined up in the first non-elite wave and continued to bucket sweat. I knew well there was no chance of running this at 100% effort due to being on the piss for the previous couple of days, and I also didn't want to do any damage to my groin. Race goals were:
    1) finish without fainting, puking or getting injured (mostly worried about hangover)
    2) justify being in the first wave by finishing < 1:15 and
    3) run it sub-7:30/mile.

    The first mile started off slow due to congestion, a mild climb and running on cobblestones. I wasn't worrying at all about getting past people, just hoping to be able to run at a reasonable pace without getting sick due to the hangover and heat. Once the road opened up the breeze was nice and cooling, and I got into a decent pace without pushing myself too hard. The course itself was two out and backs, the first shorter one of about a mile and a half up the coast. By mile 2 and 3 I was doing fine, a little faster than planned and started to use the watch to keep me at 7'30. There were water stations every couple of miles and I got through a couple of bottles during the race. It was a good bit warmer on the second out and back, which was along the river into Porto. There were bits of entertainment during the race - plenty of speakers, a band, some crowd support, firemen spraying their hose over the participants etc. The course went by a sweaty techno warehouse rave, and there was some very enthusiastic support from very weary looking people - I wondered were there more people in there from the festival than out racing :)

    With a couple of miles to go on the way back in I decided that I was feeling grand and stepped up the pace. I had been passing a lot of people by just keeping a solid pace, once I stepped it up I was passing a lot of people... I totally kicked and ended up running something like 5k pace for a bit, finally felt a bit of pinch towards the line and slowed down to smile crossing the finish line in 1:07:39 (chip) - 7'20/mile. Picked up a medal, grabbed an apple and then enjoyed a free beer (!!!) at the finish - there were a few beer stalls in the area for athletes to socialise afterwards! I gulped back the beer and strolled back into town along the race course.

    Overall, happy with how it went - it was a decent enough workout, I got to feel pretty smug about going out running instead of being hungover in bed, and I got to finish strong and pass a lot of people which isn't usually how I finish races :) Totally miles off the pace for full effort, hopefully I'll hit that time in the Frank Duffy, but that's fine.

    Date|Distance|Pace|Notes
    7th June|10.1 miles|8'08|A very enjoyable fast run home
    8th June|11 miles|8'21|A slightly longer run home via Malahide
    9th June|7.4 miles|8'40|Malahide and back
    10th June|3.3 miles|8'19|Pre-flight jog around "the valley"
    11th June|4.1 miles|8'35 or so|Lunch time run to the mall and stadium in Porto
    12th June|9.2 miles|7'20|15k race as above


    Total: 45.9 miles

    Next week: Get back in the game! I took a rest day today though :o :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    A medal and the hair of the dog, nice run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    A decent week, milage stepped back up without any problems from the groin, though nothing done at fast pace. I had a couple of days off work on Tuesday and Wednesday, so on Tuesday morning I got the bus out to Sutton, did a lap of Howth and back to Swords... all was going well until I started getting pretty hungry, constantly thinking of food throughout. I made it until the outskirts of Swords when I just couldn't keep going. First time in bonkvile since DCM :) I walked the rest of the way, demolished as much food as I could get my hands on and then had to sit down for a bit feeling a lot of nausea (from the bonking, not the eating, I think). I also hurt a toe (on my left foot, of course), it was a bit swollen and sore to walk on but not run on. I'm guessing it probably happened on the steep downhills on Howth. The rest of the week wasn't quite as dramatic. I got a decent long run in - I was feeling a bit of LSR guilt having not done one in a few weeks, and I have to travel to NYC next weekend for work which puts another long run at risk...

    Date|Distance|Pace|Notes
    June 14th|8 miles|8'04|A nice enough afternoon run, legs felt fresh after a rest day.
    June 15th|15 miles|8'07|Got 102 to Sutton Cross, went up Howth and ran back to Swords via Baldoyle, Clare Hall and Malahide. Hunger bonked as mentioned above.
    June 16th|9.3 miles|8'16|Nice run home, felt really good. No chance of a bonk :)
    June 17th|7.3 miles|8'37|Groggy pre-work miles, out at 6:22AM... It was that or not go on the beer at a work BBQ.
    June 18th|6 miles|8'25|Out at 11:12PM after a day spent at a family do. Did a bunch of strides.
    June 19th|18 miles|7'51|Nice long run, went out to Malahide then up past Clare Hall to Collins Ave, then followed it to the Swords Rd. and back to Swords. Last few miles were faster. Took no bonk risks, ate lots all day and brought out a bottle of watered down Lucozade Sport to sip on.


    Total: 63.9 miles

    Next week: As much as I can fit in around work, the Euros, transatlantic travel and most importantly, my wife's birthday :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,483 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Nice week. Do you need a bit of recovery? Maybe not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    Very nice week B. Not sure what the composition of those runs are like but you sure get the mileage in. LSR's are back on my agenda as well. Timely reminder for me out of your Beer Log :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    A year ago your 5k PB was similar to mine. Now you are running 18 mile 'LSRs' at sub 8 pace. What sorcery is this? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Murph_D wrote: »
    Nice week. Do you need a bit of recovery? Maybe not.

    Hopefully not, these weeks are the plan for the summer :)
    denis b wrote: »
    Very nice week B. Not sure what the composition of those runs are like but you sure get the mileage in. LSR's are back on my agenda as well. Timely reminder for me out of your Beer Log :D
    A year ago your 5k PB was similar to mine. Now you are running 18 mile 'LSRs' at sub 8 pace. What sorcery is this? :D

    My "one weird trick" is >2250 miles over the last calendar year. I think at my level that quantity still makes improvements... though I obviously should work on more quality running too. Also my 5k PB was soft ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Singer wrote: »
    My "one weird trick" is >2250 miles over the last calendar year. I think at my level that quantity still makes improvements... though I obviously should work on more quality running too. Also my 5k PB was soft ;)

    Feck that , I was hoping it was the Swords air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Feck that , I was hoping it was the Swords air.

    I was hoping it was going to be a solid diet of pizza and beer. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    I was hoping it was going to be a solid diet of pizza and beer. :mad:

    That would work for me too but unfortunately it looks like its just down to hard work, sickening isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    I was hoping it was going to be a solid diet of pizza and beer. :mad:

    There has been plenty of beer :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Not a bad week considering. I did my first fast miles since the injury and they went grand. Flew to New York today and decided not to do a meaningful long run due to the heat, just doing two easy laps of Central Park which is conveniently 3 or 4 blocks away from my hotel. Just before I went out I ate a load of food (I tend to eat my weight in food from Whole Foods when in the states) and took on a lot of liquid, however that meant I had to stop a few times due to feeling bloated and suffered a little from a stitch. It was tough when exposed to the sun, it was around 28 degrees and pretty humid. However, none of this really mattered, I was delighted to be running in an absolutely amazing park in the glorious (though occasionally punishing) sun. There are actual dedicated running/walking paths, plenty of drinking fountains, trails, views... all set in the middle of the city. Amazing park. I've generally been gawping all day at what I've seen of New York so far, it's my first time ever here (other than playing Grand Theft Auto). The Central Park runners seem to keep to themselves and not acknowledge each other, though one guy went by with a few layers on, a large woolen hat on his head and with gloves on and an older runner who was passing me engaged me in a very brief conversation about what on earth he was doing.

    Date|Distance|Pace|Notes
    June 20th|9 miles|8'49|Run commute home, legs pretty stiff from the long run the day before.
    June 21st|3.1 miles|7'41|Two fast laps of St. Stephen's Green with a lap in between each. Probably a bit too busy in the green at lunch to be doing these. The laps were 3:39 and 3:37, distance just under a kilometre or so.
    June 21st|4.8 miles|8'34|The 6 year old was participating in an athletics event in Morton Stadium, so basically did a truncated run commute. He finished last in his race.
    June 22nd|9.5 miles|8'44|This wasn't good at all. Couldn't figure out why, so let's blame pre-match nerves :) It did get better as I got closer to home, though I resolved to take a rest day. Waved at meno somewhere around Amiens St. Also ran alongside a guy in a racing wheelchair who came out of Morton Stadium and was going in my direction. I was faster than him going up the hills, and then he'd take off on the way down. At the first airport junction he went through a red light, and an off-duty/unmarked Garda pulled him over! I also went through the lights and he didn't bother me - I guess I was on the path.
    June 24th|10 miles|8'02|A nice faster run commute. Felt great.
    June 25th|3.1 miles|10'21|It was the wife's birthday, so I treated her to a Parkrun date followed by a nice brunch :) She's been doing a bit of running recently, nothing too serious, mostly social and was looking to go sub-30 for the first time, so that was the target. She wasn't feeling great on the morning though, and after we went out a little too hard she suffered a bit and had to take a few breaks. Ended up coming in in 31:24, she reckons she couldn't have gone faster on the day but has a sub-30 on a good day. She definitely put in the effort on day. Brunch was pretty good too. Pretty good first running date :)
    June 26th|12.8 miles|9'07|Two very warm laps around Central Park.


    Total: 52.5 miles

    Next week: Should get a good few runs in around New York...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    If you're still talking to each other after your first running date, you're doing well :p

    Love your description of Central Park, great place to run. If you get a chance check out the highline too... Not very long (2-3k maybe) but early morning looking out over the Hudson is hard to beat.

    Enjoy New York!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Singer wrote: »
    I was delighted to be running in an absolutely amazing park in the glorious (though occasionally punishing) sun. There are actual dedicated running/walking paths, plenty of drinking fountains, trails, views... all set in the middle of the city. Amazing park.

    Next week: Should get a good few runs in around New York...

    So just like the jacko except for the running paths, drinking fountains trail views and glorious sunshine. Enjoy your week.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    That's how I started running B got to the stage of if you can't beat em join em! Central Park amazing to run in my observation was that everyone seemed to be running the other way ! I must have missed the memo !!


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