The Plight of the Rohingya

Nodin

LadyFenghuang wrote: »

Ang Su ki is someone I respect if she is silent on this issue it's very wrong.

Has been fairly silent on that and a few others for some years now. What she has said has been less than inspiring.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/burmas-aung-san-suu-kyi-a-human-rights-icon-is-criticized-on-anti-muslim-violence/2013/12/23/c7acb0f4-633e-11e3-a373-0f9f2d1c2b61_story.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/27/aung-san-suu-kyi-is-turning-a-blind-eye-to-human-rights-in-the-name-of-politics


http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/video/2012/jun/22/rohingya-refugees-burma-bangladesh-video

DeadHand

Nodin wrote: »

No, you used this issue as a soapbox, tried to tar all muslims with the same brush etc. Shameful, really.

You can't counter the arguments I made (because I'm right) so you whinge and make personal attacks.

jonnypacket

So is the flotilla on the way yet?

LadyFenghuang

jonnypacket wrote: »

So is the flotilla on the way yet?

There really is no point to that other than you want to do it. It's very cold.

jonnypacket

Nope, I'm simply exposing the glaring hypocrisy of the Irish Left. Where are the marches down O'Connell St for the Rohingya? Where are the daily news reports? Where is the boycott campaign? A true humanitarian would care about all suffering peoples. The Rohingya don't have the impressive propaganda machine that the Pallys have. Even then, the Irish care don't about the Palestinians unless they can rail against the Jews.

Egypt closes border crossings with Gaza = whatever
Israel closes border crossings with Gaza = let's fight the Gardai and burn Israeli flags

DeadHand

jonnypacket wrote: »

Nope, I'm simply exposing the glaring hypocrisy of the Irish Left. Where are the marches down O'Connell St for the Rohingya? Where are the daily news reports? Where is the boycott campaign

The Left have a strict hierarchy of victims that is based on who is being persecuted and who is doing the persecution.

As regards position in this unspoken hierarchy The Rohinga have being Muslim their favour (otherwise we'd not have heard of them at all) but aren't being persecuted by white men or, better again, Jews so they get scant mention in comparison to the Palestinians who meet every criteria and are, therefore, the apex victims of the Left.

Persecuted groups that do not even register on this hierarchy include Syrian Christians, white African farmers, Coptic Christians and the Jews of Europe and the Middle East.

LadyFenghuang

jonnypacket wrote: »

Nope, I'm simply exposing the glaring hypocrisy of the Irish Left. Where are the marches down O'Connell St for the Rohingya? Where are the daily news reports? Where is the boycott campaign? A true humanitarian would care about all suffering peoples. The Rohingya don't have the impressive propaganda machine that the Pallys have. Even then, the Irish care don't about the Palestinians unless they can rail against the Jews.

Egypt closes border crossings with Gaza = whatever
Israel closes border crossings with Gaza = let's fight the Gardai and burn Israeli flags

Your argument is a fallacy. You are saying because one cannot do everything one should do nothing. That is like saying if someone on a diet takes a little cream in their coffee that they may as well eat ten pizzas.

You are dressing a nasty remark up as a political statement when it had nothing to do with what you are arguing. You then want to get away with it by suggesting because we cannot cure every tragic situation in the world that we should not try to do anything or that we are somehow not entitled to try.

That is fake. That is the fakeness and fallacy in the world. It's the teen angst and hamlet character. Just because the world is imperfect and will always be imperfect does not mean you should do nothing.

A true humanitarian, is human. If the bar is raised so high that no human can can reach that is a rather convenient excuse to live in a darker world.

It's like saying you have no right to complain if someone sh*ts on your table in the living room because although your house is very tidy the attic is a mess. That means you are a fake and your house is fake. And it takes the attention away briefly from the person who took a sh*t on the table. They are being 'real'. When in reality they just want to be able to do whatever they want with impunity.

Those who hold very austere views ( I am NOT saying you personally I don't know you) or say nasty things all day every day cannot hide behind the fact that the world is imperfect and people are imperfect. They cannot point to the one slip up by an otherwise good person or political figure and say 'SEE', that gives me license to do whatever I want I am just being real. You cannot say because people who care cannot do everything that they should do nothing.

It's not hierarchy it's doing what you can. And yes you have to choose. I can't give all my money to charity. I can only give little bits. And I can't give to every charity either. Sometimes in life you have to make difficult decisions even selfish ones. That does not give you license to be a total jerk or not do anything. Because you can't run everyday does not mean you can't take a walk.

You have identified a hole in the media on this issue. So I think if you have no other charitable commitments you might consider soap boxing the issue yourself. Be the change you wish to see in the world. And yes you will fail...a lot. That's human. You can forgive yourself for not being perfect without giving up.

RaRaRasputin

Easy, let's ask Israel how they'd feel about welcoming the Rohingya to help them escape persecution. History has shown how well it works when persecuted societies are being handed a safe haven. It would be interesting to see how that would work