Dark Matter [ Spoilers ]

The_Valeyard · 25-08-2015 2:31am

Great episode,

here is hoping for season 2.

If this gets cancelled, i will have lost any bit of respect for the sy-fi channel I have left.

FreudianSlippers · 25-08-2015 9:13am

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Great episode,

here is hoping for season 2.

If this gets cancelled, i will have lost any bit of respect for the sy-fi channel I have left.

IMHO both this and Killjoys were strong enough shows (regardless of ratings) for SyFy to renew. That being said SyFy seems to have zero rhyme or reason for what shows they keep!

Dan_Solo · 25-08-2015 4:12pm

I'd have to go for Dark Matter over Killjoys if they're only picking one to go with next season. Apart from the astrozombies episode I thought it had better individual episode stories, though the background arcs of the two shows aren't that far off each other in quality.
And more importantly, 2 is waaay hotter than Dutch.

EoinMcLovin · 25-08-2015 4:14pm

Will Wheaton is in the season finale

Nody · 25-08-2015 4:28pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'd have to go for Dark Matter over Killjoys if they're only picking one to go with next season. Apart from the astrozombies episode I thought it had better individual episode stories, though the background arcs of the two shows aren't that far off each other in quality.
And more importantly, 2 is waaay hotter than Dutch.

I'd go with Killjoys simply because their universe is a heck of a lot more interesting with an persona arc that's really taken off; too much "generic persona arc" going on in Dark Matter by comparison (secret billionaire, failed revolutionary, disgraced samurai who's out to reclaim his honor, heavy weapons guy who's really a good guy inside etc.).

FreudianSlippers · 25-08-2015 4:32pm

There's room for both (and 2 is not hotter than Dutch! :eek: )

Dan_Solo · 25-08-2015 4:32pm

Nody wrote: »

I'd go with Killjoys simply because their universe is a heck of a lot more interesting with an persona arc that's really taken off; too much "generic persona arc" going on in Dark Matter by comparison (secret billionaire, failed revolutionary, disgraced samurai who's out to reclaim his honor, heavy weapons guy who's really a good guy inside etc.).

I don't see how any of those are worse than "trained assassin but doesn't know it" as a bog standard character!

pixelburp · 25-08-2015 4:41pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I'd have to go for Dark Matter over Killjoys if they're only picking one to go with next season. Apart from the astrozombies episode I thought it had better individual episode stories, though the background arcs of the two shows aren't that far off each other in quality.
And more importantly, 2 is waaay hotter than Dutch.

Ok, so against my better judgement we jumped back into this show, which happened to be the space-zombies one (but heaven forbid anyone on the show use the 'z' word of course).

It was more down to the poverty of TV options around this time of year that it got a second chance, but holy sheeet it was bad, and not just because of the space-cannibals-infected-with-a-plague-that's-spread-by-saliva-or-blood-but-they're-TOTALLY-not-zombies-ok. Tossing around subplots of blackmail, then openly ignoring obvious instances to play with that story just felt knuckle-headed (such as when

One saved Three from being sucked into space, as opposed to even contemplating letting him die along with Three's knowledge

).

25-08-2015 4:52pm

I'm up to episode 6 and avoiding reading this thread until I'm fully caught up, but what I've seen so far is pretty enjoyable. Sure, it's pretty much the Canadian Firefly, without the chemistry that that show had, but it is pretty fun.

stiffler123 · 27-08-2015 8:05pm

Stopped watching for a while after the space zombie episode, but I'm really glad I came back. This has become one of my favourite shows now, will be very disappointed if it doesn't get a second season.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 27-08-2015 10:20pm

stiffler123 wrote: »

Stopped watching for a while after the space zombie episode, but I'm really glad I came back. This has become one of my favourite shows now, will be very disappointed if it doesn't get a second season.

The "space zombie" episode was probably the weakest of the season, but overall it's a great romp of a show and would be good to see it get a few seasons in before being put out to pasture...

Nody · 29-08-2015 1:11pm

Well that was an unexpected ending...

EoinMcLovin · 29-08-2015 3:09pm

Did not see that coming at all. Great finale.

DMcL1971 · 29-08-2015 5:13pm

Great finale! They really built up the tension and piled suspicion on everyone.

There better be a second season.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 30-08-2015 1:09am

Yeah didn't see that ending coming at all. Great season finale. Really hope it gets renewed, because I need to know what happens next...

and the Mexican Stand-Off was great.

Avatar MIA · 30-08-2015 1:06pm

Great final three episodes - slow start, but built well towards the finish.

Earlier scene now making sense that didn't make sense previously.

6 being an undercover cop type thing for the GA makes sense of an earlier scene I couldn't reconcile.

Back when 6 discovered the ship he transported contained a bomb killing thousands he shot the young guy that ran in to tell them what had really happened. That makes more sense now that he was executing all the criminals.

Dan_Solo · 30-08-2015 10:00pm

So where was the shock stick all along? How did 6 wake up if he was knocked out the with the same stuff as 4? Why did 1 run off to the cargo hold? I was sure it was 2 when I saw her with the jug and cups...
Great episode all the same, I suppose it could have been any of them which is what made it so watchable.

Nody · 30-08-2015 10:04pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

So where was the shock stick all along?

Stick it in any storage cabinet that's not in your room basically and you're sorted.

How did 6 wake up if he was knocked out the with the same stuff as 4?

Lower dosage or simply antidote to slow down the effective time.

The question is when did he regain the memory? Was it from the memory walking episode? From being cloned? Also this points towards him being the likely culprit who caused the original memory loss (as noted in episode one that the person who did it could have done so to catch them all without them knowing about them being wanted).

Sudden Valley · 31-08-2015 8:35pm

Interesting end to the season. I'm not sure what the point was of 6 betraying them at this point in the story. They've already done a lot of illegal stuff since they woke up and there has been no indication that they've started remembering their memories. Definitely has me interested in watching season 2 (if there is one).

Potatoeman · 01-09-2015 8:37am

He didn't want to sell the device and they destroyed a planet. He may not have got his memory back at all.

Dan_Solo · 01-09-2015 9:41am

Is it possible that this isn't the "real" 6 at all and he was swapped with a double? Similar stuff has happened a few times already in this show.

Sudden Valley · 01-09-2015 9:47am

i guess he could be one of those short term clones and 6 could be imprisoned on that planet where they were keeping 2. I don't think 6 could be an undercover cop since, in his memories he killed his former colleagues rather trying to detain them for interrogation.

stiffler123 · 01-09-2015 1:09pm

Really enjoyed the finale, didn't see it coming at all. The only slight plot hole for me was why 6 didn't take out 5 when they were alone together. Hopefully we get a second season.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 01-09-2015 5:50pm

Good news. Season 2 is a Go!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/01/dark-matter-killjoys-renewed-syfy-season-2

sioda · 01-09-2015 10:42pm

Fantastic great news second favourite show of the summer

don ramo · 02-09-2015 12:36am

sioda wrote: »

Fantastic great news second favourite show of the summer

whats first

great news, have enjoyed this and killjoys, both had solid enough first seasons, and have plenty to build on, i probably would have hated this being cancelled more cause of the cliffhanger it would have left us on,

definitely something up with 6, i could see him being a cop of some sort, but then why was 5 and 1 knocked out, whatever about 2,3 and 4, 1 isnt a killer, and 5 is a stowaway, so the 3 of them really, should be the only ones knocked out, makes me suspicious, thank god we get to find out,

biko · 02-09-2015 1:20am

Just started watching it, pretty good so far.

sioda · 02-09-2015 9:47am

Mr Robot by a country mile

don ramo · 02-09-2015 11:07am

sioda wrote: »

Mr Robot by a country mile

good choice

FreudianSlippers · 03-09-2015 8:36am

sioda wrote: »

Mr Robot by a country mile

I like both apples and oranges in a different way.

mrkite77 · 07-10-2015 7:17am

stiffler123 wrote: »

The only slight plot hole for me was why 6 didn't take out 5 when they were alone together. Hopefully we get a second season.

Because he likes her, she's not a wanted criminal, and he spent the entire episode trying to convince her to leave the ship.

DMcL1971 · 03-05-2016 11:35pm

Dark Matter season 2 starts Friday July 1st.

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/87735/syfy-sets-killjoys-and-dark-matter-season-2-premieres/

EoinMcLovin · 13-05-2016 9:10pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnnnCYmgcPo

AMKC · 16-05-2016 1:21am

don ramo wrote: »

whats first

great news, have enjoyed this and killjoys, both had solid enough first seasons, and have plenty to build on, i probably would have hated this being cancelled more cause of the cliffhanger it would have left us on,

definitely something up with 6, i could see him being a cop of some sort, but then why was 5 and 1 knocked out, whatever about 2,3 and 4, 1 isnt a killer, and 5 is a stowaway, so the 3 of them really, should be the only ones knocked out, makes me suspicious, thank god we get to find out,

I must say I prefer Dark Matter better than Killjoys. I just don,t get Killjoys at all really but with Dark Matter at least you have an idea of who is who and there is a decent ship and decent Warp/Hyper drive special effects for it too. On Killjoys they seem to be able to get everywhere in a very short time and it never shows the ship jumping into warp or folding space or any other way of travelling throw space. Don,t get me wrong there has been some really good story's in Killjoys but Dark Matter is the one I like more.

EoinMcLovin · 27-05-2016 6:09pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6SO89voFh8

EoinMcLovin · 05-06-2016 10:43am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AzDPxx8reE

Agent Coulson · 01-07-2016 4:55pm

Season 2 kicks off tonight in the States.

Mr E · 02-07-2016 8:21am

The first episode was a bit all over the place, but I enjoyed it.

Avatar MIA · 02-07-2016 9:38am

Mr E wrote: »

The first episode was a bit all over the place, but I enjoyed it.

Jury's still out.

Nody · 02-07-2016 11:30am

Mr E wrote: »

The first episode was a bit all over the place, but I enjoyed it.

I found it exactly as expected based on season 1 so I can only agree; had same feeling with Killjoy as well.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 02-07-2016 2:43pm

I enjoyed it. Good set up for the season.

Skerries · 02-07-2016 3:53pm

so was that

a clone or plastic surgery patsy instead of 1?

Avatar MIA · 02-07-2016 3:56pm

Skerries wrote: »

so was that
a clone or plastic surgery patsy instead of 1?

Cheapest trick since ... a certain sword wielding character suffered a similar story line. I'd guess your first suggestion.

SoftMicro · 03-07-2016 1:54pm

Thought it was great start to new season. Bigger world with some solid story arch's compared to last season. Really looking forward to see how it pans out

FreudianSlippers · 05-07-2016 9:24am

Mr E wrote: »

The first episode was a bit all over the place, but I enjoyed it.

I also thought it was all over the place, but I didn't enjoy it tbh. I'll stick with it though, because season 1 grew on me after a while.

SoftMicro · 09-07-2016 3:49pm

"Kill them all"

Great 2nd ep! I thought most of the season would be in that prison...guess not.

Mr E · 09-07-2016 4:40pm

5 had a great episode overall. The gun selection scene was fun too.

I would have happily watched a full season futuristic take on Prison Break, but it wasn't to be. Much stronger than the opener, that's for sure.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 09-07-2016 7:40pm

Great second episode and good way get the new cast members on the Raza...

Now that we have some fresh faces aboard the Raza, do we think 1 is really dead? Obviously the actor can still be in it as Jace and be a recurring bad guy, but I do wonder if 1 is really dead...

And as for 6, I wonder how long he'll be in stasis for... Roger Moore is the type of actor who just seems to appear in a lot of different shows around the same time - I wonder if he had another commitment that meant he would have to miss out on a lot of this season and he'll be in stasis for the majority. Either way, I'm intrigued to see where that arc is going.

Mr E · 09-07-2016 8:28pm

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Roger Moore is the type of actor who just seems to appear in a lot of different shows

Cryo-freeze his 89 year old eyebrows?

I think you mean Roger Cross.

I doubt he'll be out of it for too long. IMDB says he isn't in anything else at the moment.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 09-07-2016 8:33pm

Mr E wrote: »

Cryo-freeze his 89 year old eyebrows? I think you mean Roger Cross.

I doubt he'll be out of it for too long. IMDB says he isn't in anything else at the moment.

Oops... hahaha. Not sure how that even happened, because I was thinking Cross, but my fingers typed Moore anyway.

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