2015 NBA Offseason + Draft

NufcNavan

Trust the Lakers to make the most unnecessary and sad FA signing of the off season. Metta World Peace is back.

For Forks Sake

NufcNavan wrote: »

Trust the Lakers to make the most unnecessary and sad FA signing of the off season. Metta World Peace is back.

TheGoldenAges

NufcNavan wrote: »

Trust the Lakers to make the most unnecessary and sad FA signing of the off season. Metta World Peace is back.

I dunno, the Mavs signing Javale McGee is close. But Metta probably shades it as Shaqtin' a Fool would really miss the guy.

NufcNavan

TheGoldenAges wrote: »

I dunno, the Mavs signing Javale McGee is close. But Metta probably shades it as Shaqtin' a Fool would really miss the guy.

At least the Mavs were in bad need of a big.

Paully D

Anthony Bennett cut by the T-Wolves and signs with Toronto for a 1 year vet minimum. What a bust. Though in fairness no one could quite believe the Cavs actually drafted him #1 overall and it was as clear as day it wasn't going to turn out well. You'd love to know what goes through the head of these decision-makers sometimes.

LeeJM

Lads quick question, Im a casual viewer who hasnt had the opportunity to watch in the last couple of yrs. LinSanity was just taking off (and sinking) last time I had any interest. I have BT Sports now and see the season is starting soon and want to try and get back into it even if its only 1-2 games a week I see, so who are the teams/players to watch?

delph09

Paully D wrote: »

Anthony Bennett cut by the T-Wolves and signs with Toronto for a 1 year vet minimum. What a bust. Though in fairness no one could quite believe the Cavs actually drafted him #1 overall and it was as clear as day it wasn't going to turn out well. You'd love to know what goes through the head of these decision-makers sometimes.

I think Bennett will do well in his hometown team without the pressure of #1 pick player, I still believe he can become a good role player in the future.

padraig_f

LeeJM wrote: »

Lads quick question, Im a casual viewer who hasnt had the opportunity to watch in the last couple of yrs. LinSanity was just taking off (and sinking) last time I had any interest. I have BT Sports now and see the season is starting soon and want to try and get back into it even if its only 1-2 games a week I see, so who are the teams/players to watch?

Off the top of my head...

Top teams
Warriors
Spurs
Thunder
Cavs
Clippers

Established solid teams
Bulls
Rockets
Grizzlies
Mavs
Blazers
Hawks
Wizards
Heat

Up-and-comers
Pelicans
Bucks
Celtics
Jazz
Timberwolves
Magic

Going nowhere
Nets
Raptors
Pacers
Nuggets

Hopeless
Knicks
76ers
Lakers
Kings
Pistons
Hornets

limerickfc

Basically the East is still sh*t and the west is 9 or 10 deep in terms of quality

GoldFour4

padraig_f wrote: »

Off the top of my head...

Top teams
Warriors
Spurs
Thunder
Cavs
Clippers

Established solid teams
Bulls
Rockets
Grizzlies
Mavs
Blazers
Hawks
Wizards
Heat

Up-and-comers
Pelicans
Bucks
Celtics
Jazz
Timberwolves
Magic

Going nowhere
Nets
Raptors
Pacers
Nuggets

Hopeless
Knicks
76ers
Lakers
Kings
Pistons
Hornets

And poor Phoenix just wandering about in the desert without a category

padraig_f

malistheman wrote: »

And poor Phoenix just wandering about in the desert without a category

Ha, I knew I should've gone back to check if I missed anyone. I don't have a great handle on Phoenix, what category do you think they should be in?

GoldFour4

padraig_f wrote: »

Ha, I knew I should've gone back to check if I missed anyone. I don't have a great handle on Phoenix, what category do you think they should be in?

Somewhere between the hopeless and the up and comers. I'm excited for the young guys but want the Morris situation solved ASAP.

nerd69

malistheman wrote: »

Somewhere between the hopeless and the up and comers. I'm excited for the young guys but want the Morris situation solved ASAP.

Apparently he wants to stay now

NufcNavan

Pacers going nowhere? Hmmmm

delph09

padraig_f wrote: »

Off the top of my head...

Top teams
Warriors
Spurs
Thunder
Cavs
Clippers

Established solid teams
Bulls
Rockets
Grizzlies
Mavs
Blazers
Hawks
Wizards
Heat

Up-and-comers
Pelicans
Bucks
Celtics
Jazz
Timberwolves
Magic

Going nowhere
Nets
Raptors
Pacers
Nuggets

Hopeless
Knicks
76ers
Lakers
Kings
Pistons
Hornets

don't think thunder can be the top team, because you don't know the performance of KD is well or not after recover from the injured.

padraig_f

NufcNavan wrote: »

Pacers going nowhere? Hmmmm

The bookies have them 75/1 to win a title, compared to say the Bulls at 13/1, so they agree with me apparently. I don't mean they're terrible when I say 'going nowhere', just stuck in that middle ground where I can't see them being close to contending for a title, and not bad enough to suck either and rebuild with some lottery draft talent.

NufcNavan

padraig_f wrote: »

The bookies have them 75/1 to win a title, compared to say the Bulls at 13/1, so they agree with me apparently. I don't mean they're terrible when I say 'going nowhere', just stuck in that middle ground where I can't see them being close to contending for a title, and not bad enough to suck either and rebuild with some lottery draft talent.

The odds are probably fair but the Bulls at 13/1 is fairly poor value to be honest.

The Pacers are a big unknown this year. They are COMPLETELY changing their style in the space of one off season.

However, if George Hill, Monta and Paul George all stay healthy they are still easily a lock in the playoffs in the East.

padraig_f

NufcNavan wrote: »

The odds are probably fair but the Bulls at 13/1 is fairly poor value to be honest.

Maybe yeah....I'm optimistic about Hoiberg, but he's an unknown quantity at this point.

The Pacers are a big unknown this year. They are COMPLETELY changing their style in the space of one off season.

However, if George Hill, Monta and Paul George all stay healthy they are still easily a lock in the playoffs in the East.

Are they going more up-tempo? I suppose Hibbert's departure will naturally change things alright.

NufcNavan

padraig_f wrote: »

Are they going more up-tempo? I suppose Hibbert's departure will naturally change things alright.

Hoiberg will be interesting alright.

They are going from the slowest front court in the league in West and Hibbert into small ball run and gun basketball. Paul George will most likely play the 4. I'm hoping Myles Turner turns into a starting calibre C by the end of the season. He looked really good in Summer league.

There will be growing pains. It is an odd roster but this season will be interesting to watch.

padraig_f

NufcNavan wrote: »

Hoiberg will be interesting alright.

They are going from the slowest front court in the league in West and Hibbert into small ball run and gun basketball. Paul George will most likely play the 4. I'm hoping Myles Turner turns into a starting calibre C by the end of the season. He looked really good in Summer league.

There will be growing pains. It is an odd roster but this season will be interesting to watch.

Cool. Sounds like it could suit Paul George more playing in the open court, as opposed to a half-court where he sometimes struggled to create his own shot.

The Bulls will be going much more up-tempo as well with Hoiberg, which I'm looking forward to. While the Pacers and Bulls got a lot of credit for their defense the last few years, lock-down defense and pedestrian offense isn't the most fun to watch. I'm looking forward to run-and-gun.

NufcNavan

padraig_f wrote: »

Cool. Sounds like it could suit Paul George more playing in the open court, as opposed to a half-court where he sometimes struggled to create his own shot.

The Bulls will be going much more up-tempo as well with Hoiberg, which I'm looking forward to. While the Pacers and Bulls got a lot of credit for their defense the last few years, lock-down defense and pedestrian offense isn't the most fun to watch. I'm looking forward to run-and-gun.

Yeah both teams will undergo a similar transformation. I'm not mad about Pacers going full run and gun. Vogel is all about defense but he's going to have to give up defense if we're gonna play this way. We're especially weak in the front court.

Hoiberg is already a favourite of mine due to this video alone:

Paully D

Derrick Rose fractures his orbital after being elbowed in practice. You couldn't make it up really. First practice under Hoiberg and he's injured. 4-6 weeks out so not a huge deal and not too many difficult games in that period (Cavs, Thunder, Warriors I believe is all) but if he didn't have bad luck he'd have none at all.

GoldFour4

Paully D wrote: »

Derrick Rose fractures his orbital after being elbowed in practice. You couldn't make it up really. First practice under Hoiberg and he's injured. 4-6 weeks out so not a huge deal and not too many difficult games in that period (Cavs, Thunder, Warriors I believe is all) but if he didn't have bad luck he'd have none at all.

Yeah terrible bad luck with injuries for Rose. I saw a stat over the last few days that D Rose has missed more games in the last couple of years than Duncan has in his career. Health is the one thing that you can't buy in the NBA it seems. Hopefully D Rose can come back at the top of his game.

killwill

Paully D wrote: »

Derrick Rose fractures his orbital after being elbowed in practice. You couldn't make it up really. First practice under Hoiberg and he's injured. 4-6 weeks out so not a huge deal and not too many difficult games in that period (Cavs, Thunder, Warriors I believe is all) but if he didn't have bad luck he'd have none at all.

Especially during his interview on Open Day making weird comments about free agency and his time coming for a max contract. Who in their right mind would give him a max now?

@malistheman is think Rose missed 103 games in the last 3 seasons and Duncan has missed 97 games in 18 seasons. What a career from Duncan.

ButtersSuki

killwill wrote: »

@malistheman is think Rose missed 103 games in the last 3 seasons and Duncan has missed 97 games in 18 seasons. What a career from Duncan.

Is that "missed" or rested - this is Pop remember!

Been crazy busy one the last few weeks, only getting back to posting here now.

Moses…..sad. RIP.

Rose? I fractured my eye socket and my jaw with a knee to the face. My God you can't imagine the pain that's there afterwards. Even the slightest rub by a finger is agony. Dude has zero luck.

padraig_f

Signed up for NBA league pass with the Bulls pre-season starting tonight. €180 looked a bit pricey, so researched the VPN option (signing up from a different part of the world). Best I saw was Ghana, 130 USD for the same package, or €115.

That's for regular season & playoffs (all teams). Still not exactly cheap, but better than 180.

me and the biz

Are you in Ireland? Was €160 for me there 2 or 3 weeks ago

padraig_f

me and the biz wrote: »

Are you in Ireland? Was €160 for me there 2 or 3 weeks ago

Yeah.

ButtersSuki

Ha! Ha! This is HILARIOUS!!!!!
Someone thinks he's A LOT more powerful than he is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=142&v=eEXmNs_WdUQ


"my brother"

"You are in no position to question me"

"you do not want to make an enemy of me"

"you're wrong about that too"

"you don't know who I talk to"

"some of the brothers that talk behind my back in the NBA"

"I AM A BLACK MAN!!"

"I will put my resume up against anybody in this industry. We really wanna go there? We really want to start something? Against ME?"

"You want to start something? That is not the wise thing to do."

"chirpin' behind my back all the time"

"they're making unnecessary enemies"


The BEST BIT STARTS AT 11:48
"you don't wanna make an enemy outta me. And I'm looking right into the camera...tsh...and I'm a say it again...you DO NOT wanna make an enemy out of me....I'm not havin' it"


:D:D:D:D

Paully D

That Smith rant was fantastic. :pac: 21 minutes of complete and utter cringe.

It might get even better too, a Smith v Bayless row is brewing and has been for some time:

http://thebiglead.com/2015/10/07/skip-bayless-stephen-a-smith-first-take/