Super E3 2015 - General Discussion Turbo Redux Edition

Falthyron

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

You're allowed disagree. You aren't allowed drag a thread off topic. Besides, we are all bored to tears of the PC vs Sony vs MS debate.

Yeah, especially now that PC is the clear and unquestionably better platform. So, where were we? Ah yes, all I want to see at GamesCom (to follow on from a great E3) is Remedy to announce a Kickstarter for Alan Wake 2 and Microsoft to announced Quantum Break is coming to PC

Praise GabeN, long may he reign.

cloud493

Aye, fallout has cheered up a somewhat bland Q4. But gears, rare collection, halo, tombraider, thats my jam :pac:

kunst nugget

cloud493 wrote: »

Anyway. MS had a really good conference, I'm psyched for most of them games they showed.

Cough, cough. You can't say that. You have to say that you enjoyed all the presentations and that all of them are special in their own way.

You can only hate on those Game Trailers fellas - those guys are dicks.

cloud493

kunst nugget wrote: »

Cough, cough. You can't say that. You have to say that you enjoyed all the presentations and that all of them are special in their own way.

You can only hate on those Game Trailers fellas - those guys are dicks.

Oh they all did. My favourite was sony, but I don't think any of them had a bad conference*, theres loads to be psyched for.








* I'm not counting squares conference, cos with the exception of a small gameplay snippet, it wasn't much cop.

johnny_ultimate

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Hank Scorpio

Xenji wrote: »

Looking forward to it as well, never had a fondness for modern FPS games, but have always loved the likes of Quake, Doom, Unreal ect

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Stone Deaf 4evr

regardless of who 'won', theres been enough announced to keep my wallet empty for the foreseeable future.

cuphead looks really good, its a pity I'm so crap at those bullet hell type shooters, I'll probably never see more than the 1st two levels.

_Redzer_

It's a wonder why the uncharted collection wasn't shown off

cloud493

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's a wonder why the uncharted collection wasn't shown off

They talked about it a wee bit off the conference stage, but no gameplay yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_QgzvSBXU

Captain Chaos

Just going by E3 and I have a long watch/to buy list as a result.

In no particular order.
Fallout 4
Shenmue 3
Star Wars Battlefront
Mirror's Edge
FF7 remake
Hitman
Mass Effect Andromeda
Unravel
Ghost Recon
Deus Ex
Dark Souls 3.

Not too shabby E3'15, not bad at all.

FAILSAFE 00

I am starting to think that there should be some E3 criteria for showing games.

(e.g) Games that launch within 12 months of E3.

It would keep all the shows on their toes to make sure they have something to show that is out in a few months.

It seems like every year at E3 we are seeing games that won't be launched for 3 years or more.

johnny_ultimate

I've said this before, but I really think people underestimate how long it takes to make a AAA game in 2015. Tentpole releases are increasingly significant and costly undertakings, so that's why we're seeing fewer titles and more delays. The more elaborate and technically sophisticated games become, the harder they are to get right. And, given the cost associated with the big name sequels or franchise starters, it's no surprise whatsoever publishers are stretching out the 'hype' time / marketing budgets in order to firmly make an impression long before the game itself is actually released. I reckon many publishers genuinely don't think it's feasible to announce games without a 'long tail' of publicity.

Still holding out hope Valve will stealth launch Half Life 3 on Steam some evening though for ****s and giggles

FAILSAFE 00

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I've said this before, but I really think people underestimate how long it takes to make a AAA game in 2015. Tentpole releases are increasingly significant and costly undertakings, so that's why we're seeing fewer titles and more delays. The more elaborate and technically sophisticated games become, the harder they are to get right. And, given the cost associated with the big name sequels or franchise starters, it's no surprise whatsoever publishers are stretching out the 'hype' time / marketing budgets in order to firmly make an impression long before the game itself is actually released.

It takes about 3-5 years.

I find it tiring to see announcements for games that are coming years later. It builds unnecessary hype way too soon which has the potential to backfire.

I think if you have been building a game for 3 years start E3 in your last year and do your marketing from there. Show what you got and the customer only has to wait anywhere up to 12 months.

No mans sky is now in its 3rd E3 show with very little extra known about the game.

I think massive hype for games that are coming out years later is one of the bad things in the industry at the moment.

Shiminay

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

I agree , games like Kerbal Space Program are amazing type indie games. But I have to admit I love just turning on a console and it working without having to update drivers etc.

When's the last time you used a computer? I'm not trying to troll you, but Windows has been taking care of all that automatically since Windows 7 came out almost 6 years ago.

Hell even Steam will do it for you too because it understands that beta drivers for brand new games are a necessity.

So this "I don't understand drivers" nonsense needs to go away and die and besides, it's not exactly rocket science to understand the basics of how a computer's OS works.

And having seen consoles and console games on this gen and the last taking at least 3 times longer to update than any equivalent PC update (XBox, I'm looking at you in particular, the service is consistent, but shockingly slow in comparison to Steam or Origin). The PS3 had a fecking update almost every week, what is it you think they were updating?

MiskyBoyy

I'd have to agree.

Fallout 4 has made me the most excited about a game in a LONNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG time.

If they had have said it wasn't coming for another 2-3 years I would be sickened. Wouldn't be able to get excited at all and by the time the game came I'd probably be over it.

But thankfully that's not the case for my beautiful Fallout

tok9

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

cuphead looks really good, its a pity I'm so crap at those bullet hell type shooters, I'll probably never see more than the 1st two levels.

That game looks amazing. That'd be one of the first games I'd buy on Xbox. Along with Ashen.

Xenji

It is what E3 has always been though, they reveal games that will be out in 2-3 years and hype the big releases for the coming months, games we saw 2-3 years ago previously revealed, they will not break the cycle.

It is always nice though to see something like Fallout 4 though and there should be more of it.

Pedro Monscooch

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I've said this before, but I really think people underestimate how long it takes to make a AAA game in 2015...

100% true. If only more games were unveiled like Fallout 4 though: a huge game only 5 months away. Shenmue III is super exciting having finished the others, but December 2017 is such a long way away.

tok9

I do find it a bit hard to take "there's not that many games".

If you are talking solely exclusives than that I can agree with but there have been a load of games released this year. I won't even get into the indies since a lot of people don't seem to count them.

But if you are someone who plays a lot of games, I'd be pretty surprised if you haven't enjoyed a few 2015 games or are looking forward to one later this year.

Top of my head that's come out:

Dying Light
Ori
Bloodborne
Pillars of Eternity
The Witcher
Project Cars
Resident Evil HD
Life is Strange
The Witcher 3
Evolve

Rest of the year:
Batman
MGS
Mad Max
Just Cause
Star Fox
Halo
Until Dawn
Tearaway
Super Mario Tennis
Fallout 4
Hitman
and so on

I've just left it there as this post is already too long. The point is.. surely you have your pick as it is.

If anything the issue now is there are so many games. I've invested a huge amount of time into the likes of The Witcher 3 and Bloodborne and I know it'll be the same with Batman and MGS.

No one else thinks the same?

RasTa

I wasn't expecting to see a playable version of The Last Guardian so am pretty confident it could be out by 2016. Similar to Bloodborne

tok9

RasTa wrote: »

I wasn't expecting to see a playable version of The Last Guardian so am pretty confident it could be out by 2016. Similar to Bloodborne

I'd be surprised if it was early in the year like Bloodborne.

If I was betting, Uncharted will release in Feb/March and TLG would be closer to Sept/October I reckon.

Pedro Monscooch

tok9 wrote: »

If anything the issue now is there are so many games.

Three of my most wanted games come out on the same day- November 10th: Fallout 4, Rise Of The Tomb Raider and Star Wars Battlefront. It's an embarrassment of riches.

MiskyBoyy

Pedro Monscooch wrote: »

Three of my most wanted games come out on the same day- November 10th: Fallout 4, Rise Of The Tomb Raider and Star Wars Battlefront. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Battlefront is out November 17th.

But still such a close time period. Was looking forward to Tomb Raider & Battlefront but they'll definitely have to wait now

tok9

Battlefront is the 10th too? My god that's ridiculous.

I'd be shocked if both Tomb Raider and Battlefront don't move.

Edit: Ah seen the above post. That leaves Tomb Raider. I'd honestly move it into early December if I was them.

AlmightyCushion

Pedro Monscooch wrote: »

Three of my most wanted games come out on the same day- November 10th: Fallout 4, Rise Of The Tomb Raider and Star Wars Battlefront. It's an embarrassment of riches.

That's a first world problems meme right there.

Pedro Monscooch

Battlefront is available a week early through EA Access albeit for a set amount of hours (six, usually). This is the first year I'm skipping Call Of Duty, releasing on the 6th.

MiskyBoyy

Pedro Monscooch wrote: »

Battlefront is available a week early through EA Access albeit for a set amount of hours (six, usually). This is the first year I'm skipping Call Of Duty, releasing on the 6th.

Aye, but not general release.

I'd say it will be 10 hours like Hardline was tbh.

But Fallout 4 is out so ain't nobody got time for that!

Stone Deaf 4evr

Pedro Monscooch wrote: »

Battlefront is available a week early through EA Access albeit for a set amount of hours (six, usually). This is the first year I'm skipping Call Of Duty, releasing on the 6th.

I'm reserving judgement on COD, mainly on the strenght of treyarchs previous games, but I'm a bit disappointed that it's so similar to advanced warfare

Retr0gamer

I have to hand this E3 to Sony despite having the worst conference of the three since there was a severe lack of exclusives. Microsoft did well and backwards compatibility is a huge plus for me since it means I can retire my 360. Nintendo had no stand out games we hadn't seen already but what they did show looked like a lot of fun.

Sony kind of won it for me outside their press conference. Especially after the Square Enix one. They've picked up a lot of third party exclusives from Japanese studios that complement their own offerings.

Ctrl Alt Delete wrote: »

I agree , games like Kerbal Space Program are amazing type indie games. But I have to admit I love just turning on a console and it working without having to update drivers etc.

I love turning on my PC not having to wait 30+ minutes for mandatory updates to install before I can play games or use the machines features. Consoles are becoming more like PC's these days, except more like PC's from the 90's because my PC takes care off all the drivers in the background.

MiskyBoyy

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I love turning on my PC not having to wait 30+ minutes for mandatory updates to install before I can play games or use the machines features. Consoles are becoming more like PC's these days, except more like PC's from the 90's because my PC takes care off all the drivers in the background.

My Xbox One automatically installs any system or/& game updates whilst in standby mode.

My PC doesn't do them until I turn it on so for me there's waiting on PC but not XB1.