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Super E3 2015 - General Discussion Turbo Redux Edition
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Good to know at least MS aren't as useless as Sony and Nintendo in that regard.
I think you're just useless as you can also do it with the PS3+PS4
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »I reckon DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou won't be top of the backwards compatibility priority list
Wow I honestly thought you were making up the name of that game there lol...0 -
When's the last time you used a computer?
I'm not trying to troll you, but Windows has been taking care of all that automatically since Windows 7 came out almost 6 years ago.
I've actually a Degree in Computer Science so I think it would be safe to say I have the requisite knowledge to do what I need to do.
It still doesn't change the fact that I find it a pain in the arse to do it when I'm trying to chill and game.0 -
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Things are looking grim for Beyond Good & Evil 2...
The latest news came from GameSpot news editor Tamoor Hussain, who briefly talked about the project during a video about the then-upcoming Ubisoft press conference.
“I did some investigating on this,” said Hussain. “I wasn’t able to confirm this [for a news story]. I’ve never talked about this before. The problem I had was [that] it didn’t become a news story because I didn’t corroborate it enough to get it out there. But I’ve been told it’s been abandoned—in a big way. The studio has moved on. The key people from that studio that were making it moved onto other projects outside of Ubisoft. Like I said, I might be wrong on that, but I had enough of it to chase that small lead.”
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I think you're just useless as you can also do it with the PS3+PS4
Everytime I turn my PS3 on it's gotta do a million updates. To be fair though, I rarely boot it up. But they take quite a long time to download and install, longer than any windows, steam or game update combined (in that order). Then I go to access the youtube app and that has to update, too! (performed like crap in the end after all that, friends weren't impressed)
I dunno why everyone's so confused about this. A properly set up PC will outdo a console in system boot and game launching times. But is it really about all this 'have to wait for updates' stuff? I mean if your time is that valuable you're losing huge chunks of time from console load screens alone. I've also never waited for a game to update before playing it on PC. Not once. They seem to do so automatically in the background and are usually fast about it. I really don't know what hassle people seem to be going through. You'd swear they were having to code the drivers themselves and install them manually via a disc or something.
Consoles are faster at first-time setup... which is not much considering one may be using the platform for years to come.I think you're just useless as you can also do it with the PS3+PS4
If by useless you mean not willing to shell out €49.99 a year for the privilege...Sure they'd rather sell people HD remakes or remasters....whatever they call them these days.
Pretty much. People playing their old games does not bring in money. But MC doing anything about letting people be able to play their older games on current hardware is a big step in the right direction. The only issue is just not having all the games... mainly the exclusive ones. That is of course only if you can play them from disc. If it's just the games on the XBL store then this is barely even news to be honest.
I also wonder what will online support be like? Would you still be able to play Tekken against 360 users? That would be even cooler. I've played Resident Evil Outbreak on my PC via emulation online alongside PS2 users. It's great to tear down the barriers of platform choice like that and just get to the damn gaming.
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Something i don't think is right is the way both sony and microsoft don't see pc as a competitor and it results in the pc guys laughing all the way to the bank.
for example, ori and the blind forest was an xbox one exclusive but also on the pc.
this E3 really was the realisation of that. PC is getting xbox one exclusive games such as the Gears of War remastered collection, killer instinct, cuphead and now microsofts Larry Hryb is tweeting that there is talk of the Halo master chief collection being released on PC early next year. playstation get none of this. but the playstation exclusives such as Shenmue 3, the final fantasy 7 remake, street fighter 5 and No Mans Sky will also be on PC.
i just feel it's unfair. if we have invested in either platform then surely we are purchasing these exclusives? so why are they being let launch on PC too? aren't pc people getting an unfair advantage by swallowing up both console exclusives? they have the best of both worlds. 0 -
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petepaterson wrote: »Something i don't think is right is the way both sony and microsoft don't see pc as a competitor and it results in the pc guys laughing all the way to the bank.
for example, ori and the blind forest was an xbox one exclusive but also on the pc.
this E3 really was the realisation of that. PC is getting xbox one exclusive games such as the Gears of War remastered collection, killer instinct, cuphead and now microsofts Larry Hryb is tweeting that there is talk of the Halo master chief collection being released on PC early next year. playstation get none of this. but the playstation exclusives such as Shenmue 3, the final fantasy 7 remake, street fighter 5 and No Mans Sky will also be on PC.
i just feel it's unfair. if we have invested in either platform then surely we are purchasing these exclusives? so why are they being let launch on PC too? aren't pc people getting an unfair advantage by swallowing up both console exclusives? they have the best of both worlds.
Sounds to me like a good reason to invest in a PC.
I have a PS4 for things like FIFA and the odd exclusive that I want, such as TLOU. PC for everything else. There's very little on Xbox that I can't get on one of the others, and even less that I care about, so I'm sorted.
You can hook yourself up with a cheap gaming PC for very little. Plug it into the TV and use your Xbox controller or whatever. Job done.
(Plus you then have access to the thousands of indie titles that are only available on PC, some of which are wonderful)0 -
Lol?
So the lesson once again is that the pc is, as has always been, the superior platform
Nonsense aside (and it's nonsense folks, I'm not being super serious), the money involved in this industry means they (the devs) can't afford not to sell to the millions of pc players.
Sony and Microsoft are in competition with each other and no one else is getting a look in in that fight (Nintendo fans suck it up, your console does not register in this fight). They're too busy locking their competition out rather than worrying about the pc players who were never going to be a potential sale anyway.0 -
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Lol?
So the lesson once again is that the pc is, as has always been, the superior platform
Nonsense aside (and it's nonsense folks, I'm not being super serious), the money involved in this industry means they (the devs) can't afford not to sell to the millions of pc players.
Sony and Microsoft are in competition with each other and no one else is getting a look in in that fight (Nintendo fans suck it up, your console does not register in this fight). They're too busy locking their competition out rather than worrying about the pc players who were never going to be a potential sale anyway.
I've always wondered about this....if nintendo went 3rd party (not physically distribute but digital) and cut a deal with one of the consoles (would never be sony so let's assume microsoft) to put the Nintendo App on the Xbox One storefront full of Nintendo games I'm sure they could blackmail a huge amount of money out of Microsoft on an annual basis. it seems the days of old where hardware manufacturers held the power of what and whatnot to put on their platforms are gone and now the power if firmly in the hands of the software developers. if this is the case and EA, Activision or ubisoft see this then couldn't they also blackmail the hardware manufacturers into putting all their releases on one sole console as exclusives for say a year or two?
perhaps the old days of exclusivity mattering during the n64/ps1 era will come back in a big way.0 -
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Going first party is far more lucrative in the long run since you avoid license fees. Even with the small install base Nintendo WiiU games have a massive sell through rate of 50+% of the consoles install base. A Nintendo app or whatever the feck you that that would be would cheapen Nintendos IP (their most valuable commodity), see them lose massive amounts of profit to license fees and reduce sales in a huge way. It's not like Nintendo need to anyway since things are looking rosy for them and they are back to making big profits.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Going first party is far more lucrative in the long run since you avoid license fees. Even with the small install base Nintendo WiiU games have a massive sell through rate of 50+% of the consoles install base. A Nintendo app or whatever the feck you that that would be would cheapen Nintendos IP (their most valuable commodity), see them lose massive amounts of profit to license fees and reduce sales in a huge way. It's not like Nintendo need to anyway since things are looking rosy for them and they are back to making big profits.
Would the WiiU not have far fewer games released vs other platforms though ? I don't know I don't much keep up with nintendo these days but would it not contribute to the selltrough rate at least in part in that , fewer releases would make folks more inclined to pick up something when it does come out
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petepaterson wrote: »Something i don't think is right is the way both sony and microsoft don't see pc as a competitor and it results in the pc guys laughing all the way to the bank.
for example, ori and the blind forest was an xbox one exclusive but also on the pc.
this E3 really was the realisation of that. PC is getting xbox one exclusive games such as the Gears of War remastered collection, killer instinct, cuphead and now microsofts Larry Hryb is tweeting that there is talk of the Halo master chief collection being released on PC early next year. playstation get none of this. but the playstation exclusives such as Shenmue 3, the final fantasy 7 remake, street fighter 5 and No Mans Sky will also be on PC.
i just feel it's unfair. if we have invested in either platform then surely we are purchasing these exclusives? so why are they being let launch on PC too? aren't pc people getting an unfair advantage by swallowing up both console exclusives? they have the best of both worlds.
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Deleted User wrote: »Would the WiiU not have far fewer games released vs other platforms though ? I don't know I don't much keep up with nintendo these days but would it not contribute to the selltrough rate at least in part in that , fewer releases would make folks more inclined to pick up something when it does come out
It's just a phenomenon with Nintendo games. With a few exceptions they always sell through as a huge percentage of the customer base. Stuff like New Super Mario Bros on the Wii outsold most of the Call of Duty games for instance. It's not just because it's on a system with a small install base since it's been like that since the NES. It's a combination of having a rabbid fanbase, producing the highest quality software nearly everytime and making software that appeals to all ages thus capturing a massive demograph.
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