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***2015 LC Accounting - June 15th***

  • 15-06-2015 5:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭


    Was that paper (section B in particular) completely awful or was I just horribly unprepared?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭Blue giant


    Was that paper (section B in particular) completely awful or was I just horribly unprepared?

    Hopefully completely awful. I knew I should have studied cash flow. I only half knew the ratios for interpretation so that didn't go well. Q1 or incomplete records didn't work out. At least Q8 was nice. I was confident of an A1 but I'd say I'm looking at a B1 at best now. So disappointed :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 Jamies15


    Extremely predictable but Christ that was ****ing hard


  • Registered Users Posts: 197 ✭✭Scirpt


    ****ing **** Cash Flow. Thought I'd take a risk and only study Incomplete B since A was up the last time, that paid off. Had to attempt Incomplete A and Interpretation, terrible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gingerme123


    Anyone else think that was a bitch of a paper? :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Aoife37


    What did people get as answers for cash budget and Q1? Thought Q1 was hard compared to previous years but section 2 and 3 weren't too bad


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gingerme123


    Aoife37 wrote: »
    What did people get as answers for cash budget and Q1? Thought Q1 was hard compared to previous years but section 2 and 3 weren't too bad

    I got a negative number for the end of the budget, it seemed odd


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Aoife37


    I got a negative number for the end of the budget, it seemed odd


    Same, around (900). Question 1 mine didnt balance but was around 1'300'000


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gingerme123


    Aoife37 wrote: »
    Same, around (900). Question 1 mine didnt balance but was around 1'300'000
    mine was around (900) too : )


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 leavingcert15


    What did ye do with the bonus for directors, I put as a liability because they recommended it but I think it was an expense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Balancing figures:

    Question 1: €1,243,233
    Cash flow forecast: €-108000
    Incomplete Records: €416,700


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭theRB


    What did ye do with the bonus for directors, I put as a liability because they recommended it but I think it was an expense.

    It was both.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Seanh966


    Balancing figures:

    Question 1: €1,243,233
    Cash Budget: €-108000
    Incomplete Records: €416,700

    That's a very low figure for cash budget , myself and my class mates got (950)


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 leavingcert15


    For the price earning ratio is that,
    Market value of share/EPS?
    Did ye get 12.67:1?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Seanh966 wrote: »
    That's a very low figure for cash budget , myself and my class mates got (950)

    Sorry! That's my Cash Flow question! I'll edit it now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Anyone else get a mini heart attack when they opened it and thought it was a Departmental Account?! The new grids caught me out a bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 YouKnowNothing


    Balanced question 1 :)
    After that it wasn't great, ratios were grand but my incomplete was hopeless :(
    Q8 was perfect


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭fin709


    Anybody get these?
    Q1, 1,234,383
    Q6, (13000)
    Q7, 416,700
    Q9, (905) at the end of the budget


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Aoife37


    fin709 wrote: »
    Anybody get these?
    Q1, 1,234,383
    Q6, (13000)
    Q7, 416,700
    Q9, (905) at the end of the budget


    Got the same for question 6 and 9. Q1 was a bit off think I got 1,266,383 didn't do 7.


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭theRB


    For the price earning ratio is that,
    Market value of share/EPS?
    Did ye get 12.67:1?

    Yep, you did it right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 johnh100


    What was the formula for earnings per share, dividend yield and price earning ratio??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    I wonder will there be marks given for putting part b of ratios in a report format.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jason_H


    Question 3- 60/60
    Question 4- 54/60
    Question 7- 100/100
    Question 8- 75/80

    And then ****ing cash flow came along to **** it all up, max I got in that was 25, so I went from A1s all year to getting around a B2 in the actual thing.

    Like how is this fair?? No one can actually learn off that whole course, so obviously people are gonna rely on predictions, we've been taught how to do them, thats what matters, so they should make the exam predictable so we can actually show off. So unfair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭fin709


    Jason_H wrote: »
    Question 3- 60/60
    Question 4- 54/60
    Question 7- 100/100
    Question 8- 75/80

    And then ****ing cash flow came along to **** it all up, max I got in that was 25, so I went from A1s all year to getting around a B2 in the actual thing.

    Like how is this fair?? No one can actually learn off that whole course, so obviously people are gonna rely on predictions, we've been taught how to do them, thats what matters, so they should make the exam predictable so we can actually show off. So unfair.

    There was four real possibilities for section B. Incomplete, cash flow, club and tabular. Not really asking you for the whole course


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jason_H


    fin709 wrote: »
    There was four real possibilities for section B. Incomplete, cash flow, club and tabular. Not really asking you for the whole course

    Incomplete A
    Incomplete B
    Farm
    Club
    Tabular

    That's five whole topics, no one predicted cash flow because it came up last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Daire234


    Did anyone else find the depreciation question really hard? Was it 9.5% for the depreciation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭theRB


    Today was the first time I ever attempted a forwards method Incomplete Records question. I had no idea what I was doing, so sneaky from the SEC giving us that and a cash flow. My balances were 416,700 and 407,500 in the end so I think I might have made off alright out of it but still a really horrible section B.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Jason_H wrote: »
    Question 3- 60/60
    Question 4- 54/60
    Question 7- 100/100
    Question 8- 75/80

    And then ****ing cash flow came along to **** it all up, max I got in that was 25, so I went from A1s all year to getting around a B2 in the actual thing.

    Like how is this fair?? No one can actually learn off that whole course, so obviously people are gonna rely on predictions, we've been taught how to do them, thats what matters, so they should make the exam predictable so we can actually show off. So unfair.

    I don't mean to be annoying, but if you're going to take risks in Accounting, then you should have had Interpretations as back up. It's not asking a whole lot to learn the layout of a Cash Flow either. It also had a really good chance of coming up. I predicted it to come up with a Tab as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Daire234


    Jason_H wrote: »
    Incomplete A
    Incomplete B
    Farm
    Club
    Tabular

    That's five whole topics, no one predicted cash flow because it came up last year

    You can't classify incomplete A and B as to different questions, they are more or less the same thing, also cash flow was very predictable to come up this year as there is always either a published or cash flow every year and published wasn't going to come up


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 leavingcert15


    EPS= net profit - preference dividends x100 ÷ no. of ordinary shares
    Dividend yield = Dividend per share x100 ÷ ordinary dividends paid/proposed
    Price earnings ratio = market value of share:EPS


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21 Jason_H


    Anyone have any solutions?


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