Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

nix

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Actually looking forward to the expanded midget

expanded midget..... wot


lol

YouSavedMyLife

Aeris death didn't hit me as hard as it seemed to hit everyone else on the internet. I liked Tifa better anyway ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

fixXxer

Aerith was my Gold Saucer Date

Retr0gamer

nix wrote: »

expanded midget..... wot


lol

Midgar fecking autocorrect.

Varik

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Really hoping they don't emo the game up as the original was full of charm and humour unlike everything that came out afterwards that spectacularly missed the tone of the original.

Not that bothered by the change in battle system. Ff7 had a pretty weak battle system and while turn based battle systems have yet to be bettreed by real time ones stuff like xenoblade have made turn based combat fun and tactical. And while people complain that ff13 was bad they forget that ff13-2 and 3 were excellent. Actually looking forward to the expanded midget as it was the best part of the original.

Thinks it's more a case of people not knowing or caring that 2 and 3 were good or not rather than forgetting, I got the platinum on 13 and gave it more time than most but had no intention of playing 2/3 after.

Retr0gamer

Good write up on the battle system and a very positive one.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-06-13-hands-on-with-final-fantasy-7-remake

Sounds a bit like type-0 with all the niggles ironed out.

Sephiroth_dude

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Aeris death didn't hit me as hard as it seemed to hit everyone else on the internet. I liked Tifa better anyway ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I have no regrets about killing her either, I'm looking well in the new trailer.


:pac::pac:

Mr.Nice Guy

I don't mind changes to the original storyline. I think that might be for the best in the sense that it means the original gets to stand in its own right. Sort of like how the GoT books and series differ in certain respects.

Also I think part of the reason the death of Aeris was so powerful was because it was unexpected. The majority of people playing the remake will know it's coming. With that being the case, if you really wanted to keep the impact and shock of the original's unexpected and emotional death, what should happen in this one is Tifa gets killed by Sephiroth rather than Aeris...

martingriff

nix wrote: »

I'm actually hating they are showing Sephiroth so early in the game, have his voice in Clouds head sure, but to have him visible with full blown conversations and attacking is just dumb, they're removing the mystique from the get go... In the original we didnt even get a visual on Sephiroth in game until after midgar in the kalm flashback, and prior to the top of the Shinra tower you only hear of him as a great warrior in Soldier..

And they may still go down that line for a bit I hope but the problem is we all know who he is and if they went down that route people be come on show the reveal

martingriff

martingriff wrote: »

And they may still go down that line for a bit I hope but the problem is we all know who he is and if they went down that route people be come on show the reveal

Is it early in the game or is it in the Nibelheim scene from MUCH later on?

pixelburp

Part of the problem with the HD remake is that with the addition of higher fidelity, more cut-scenes and a fully voiced cast, is that you lose almost all the nuance and ambiguity that was inherent in a more stripped down, silent narrative that played out on the PS1. Everything was implied, or hinted through the characters' broad gestures, or the char limits of those text boxes; on the other hand, I get the feeling the remake will consist of people standing around shouting what they're feeling.

Retr0gamer

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Midgar fecking autocorrect.

martingriff

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it early in the game of is it in the Nibelheim scene from MUCH later on?

Oh I agree the reveal will be early maybe at the Shinra building before the bike chase

martingriff

martingriff wrote: »

Oh I agree the reveal will be early maybe at the Shinra building before the bike chase

But it looks like the haunted mansion in Nibelheim, during clouds remembering of the burning no?

nix

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

what should happen in this one is Tifa gets killed by Sephiroth rather than Aeris...

Wouldnt work, Jenova kills Aeris because of the threat she posses.. Tifa is waaaay down on the list

Also subverting expectations, it hasnt worked much lately in other pop culture outings

martingriff wrote: »

And they may still go down that line for a bit I hope but the problem is we all know who he is and if they went down that route people be come on show the reveal

He wouldnt be revealed until after midgar though as he only becomes a thing when you get to the top of Shinra HQ and you dont actually see him until Kalm. So including him prior is just fan service instead of whats best for the story telling.

A lot of people that will play this will not have played the original, sure they may have heard the name or know what happens to Aeris, but they wont know the story or the characters.

I'm not sure changing the stories events will work out for the better

Aerith is killed because she can use the Holy materia, Tifa is not a threat to Meteor coming. No reason whatsoever to kill her

nix

Deleted User wrote: »

But it looks like the haunted mansion in Nibelheim, during clouds remembering of the burning no?

Are we talking about Sephiroth in the trailer? Its in an alleyway surround in fire, as they have only done midgar i assumed its a scene after one of the bombs goes off and Cloud loses his **** when hes escaping the vicinity..

one armed dwarf

Deleted User wrote: »

Aerith is killed because she can use the Holy materia, Tifa is not a threat to Meteor coming. No reason whatsoever to kill her

Yeah, also she posthumously pushes the planet along to use the lifestream against Meteor.

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I have no regrets about killing her either, I'm looking well in the new trailer.


:pac::pac:

So maybe you shouldn't have killed her at all, ****ed your own plan up you did.

Also it's not Jenova who kills her, except if you look at it a certain way I suppose. Jenova's body is like the host for Sephiroth while zombie Sephiroth chills out in an egg thing, calling all the other body parts up north hoping one of them brings him black materia.

(Sorry to be a pedant about that but it comes up a lot on message boards :pac: )

Retr0gamer

Think it is a bit fan servicy to show sephiroth early. You never see sephiroth until you leave midgar but he is always a presence and is constantly bigged up during that event. You don't then see him until the flashback in Kalm.

Kind of ruins the build up but then the fanboys will be crying he doesn't show up.

gimli2112

We need to stop all this crazy talk about Tifa dying.

Mr.Nice Guy

They would have to alter the original storyline if Aeris lived and another character died in her stead, which admittedly might be too big a move away from the original source material. If her death is to happen in the remake I hope they do it in a different manner and bring a fresh take on it.

Necro

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Think it is a bit fan servicy to show sephiroth early. You never see sephiroth until you leave midgar but he is always a presence and is constantly bigged up during that event. You don't then see him until the flashback in Kalm.

Kind of ruins the build up but then the fanboys will be crying he doesn't show up.

I've mixed feelings on it tbh. On one hand the original story is relatively tight (ignoring some bonkers sidequests) but we all know it, so a few alterations might be no harm.

On the other hand it's supposed to be a remake so...

I'm actually more interested in how the Wall Market stuff is going to be portrayed in this PC age. Will they keep Corneo as a lecherous bigamist who marries the prettiest girl every night or alter him in some way

You see Corneo in a much gentler way than I ever did...

Necro

Deleted User wrote: »

You see Corneo in a much gentler way than I ever did...

:pac: My innocent 12 year old mind actually believed he was marrying these women:o

Tazzimus

I remember playing the original for the first time and getting stuck at some point early enough, then thinking this is **** and turned it off.
Went back to it many years later, when PS had it for free I think, and after much FF games (still have a soft spot for FFX). I had much more fun, even if the graphics were, not there.

Looking forward to this now, another time sink of a game. Think between FFX and it's remaster I clocked over 400 hours. I imagine similar times for this.

Necro

I loved FFX apart from that sudden and abrupt difficulty ramp just over halfway through.

FFIX is my personal fave if I'm honest, I liked the return to cartoonish graphics after the darkness of VIII

Tazzimus

Never really had issues until the endgame type stuff.
Oh, now everything can OHK my entire team, wonderful.
That and the Dark Aeon fights, some of those were tricky enough.

martingriff

Which Final Fantasy has the mechanic where you had to draw out the magic. Looked great loved the story of the mercenary school but just could not get into it because of that mechanic.

gimli2112

martingriff wrote: »

Which Final Fantasy has the mechanic where you had to draw out the magic. Looked great loved the story of the mercenary school but just could not get into it because of that mechanic.

8 was gr8

Necro

martingriff wrote: »

Which Final Fantasy has the mechanic where you had to draw out the magic. Looked great loved the story of the mercenary school but just could not get into it because of that mechanic.

That was VIII.