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Bord Na Móna Equipment

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Going tomorrow for a look, tyres are 80% + anything I should look out for? How much commission is paid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    Some of the roughest machines I've ever seen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    A few 140 160-90s look in good condition, what sort of money would they be looking at?

    id say a decent one of those would always be worth what you paid for it. Those big Fiats are camels of yokes and I bet they would do anything you ask of them. they would be a fine job for a big slurry tank or trailed harvester. plenty of weight and horsepower


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Going tomorrow for a look, tyres are 80% + anything I should look out for? How much commission is paid?

    I cant make it Kev but it would be interesting if you could post up a few prices when you get a chance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    kay 9 wrote: »
    Some of the roughest machines I've ever seen.

    Well i guess you get what you pay for, no one is saying they are mint.

    http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/farm-tractor/11019013/fiat-fiatagri-160-90.html

    Be 20k to land this in the yard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Well i guess you get what you pay for, no one is saying they are mint.

    http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/farm-tractor/11019013/fiat-fiatagri-160-90.html

    Be 20k to land this in the yard

    It'd be 20k+ with vat and transport etc etc but isn't it a beaut and so original in comparison. I admit I'm a sucker for detail. Them yokes bnm have look like they were pulled through bog and got severe abuse. Each to there own though, they have there uses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    kay 9 wrote: »
    It'd be 20k+ with vat and transport etc etc but isn't it a beaut and so original in comparison. I admit I'm a sucker for detail. Them yokes bnm have look like they were pulled through bog and got severe abuse. Each to there own though, they have there uses

    True enough I spose


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    kay 9 wrote: »
    It'd be 20k+ with vat and transport etc etc but isn't it a beaut and so original in comparison. I admit I'm a sucker for detail. Them yokes bnm have look like they were pulled through bog and got severe abuse. Each to there own though, they have there uses

    and id say they would still be look around after all these big modern deeres and new Hollands have passed on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Had a look at them one nice 140-90 with no starter, rough gear but a bit of a lucky bag. Didn't stay around for auction as I'd say plenty of interest, and no time for fixing up a machine till winter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Had a look at them one nice 140-90 with no starter, rough gear but a bit of a lucky bag. Didn't stay around for auction as I'd say plenty of interest, and no time for fixing up a machine till winter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    We were there-the fords made around 3k each on average.low hours but they were rough. You wouldn't be too confident in what you were getting. There was a fiat we were interested in but it was 7400 with no injectors. Went too price 28% with VAT and agents commission. There were some bargains on other stuff if you lived close enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    L1985 wrote:
    We were there-the fords made around 3k each on average.low hours but they were rough. You wouldn't be too confident in what you were getting. There was a fiat we were interested in but it was 7400 with no injectors. Went too price 28% with VAT and agents commission. There were some bargains on other stuff if you lived close enough.

    Was that including com and vat L1985, they were all missing key parts which wouldn't fill ye with confidence!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    No, the commission and tax was 23% and 5%on top. I'm not too upset over not getting it-too much of a gamble. They were fairly badly used. The worst part was 2 hours of wheels being auctioned. Can't say I found it that riveting!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    L1985 wrote: »
    We were there-the fords made around 3k each on average.low hours but they were rough. You wouldn't be too confident in what you were getting. There was a fiat we were interested in but it was 7400 with no injectors. Went too price 28% with VAT and agents commission. There were some bargains on other stuff if you lived close enough.
    what type fiat was she? who was buying most of the rubbish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    How much did the 4610 backend and cab make???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    I wrote them all down but left it in the car.ill check tomorrow and come back to ye.Your talking to the wrong girl if you expect me to remember what type of tractor is what!!!we missed the larger tractors but I'll let you know what the other ones are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Can give you the lot number if that helps????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭thadg


    does anybody know what the 1995 fiat 160-90 made ? lot no. 487


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    Are Bord na Mona still using any Fiats or have they all retired? Did they ever have Masseys?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Are Bord na Mona still using any Fiats or have they all retired? Did they ever have Masseys?

    They used to have a fleet of 135s with a track instead of a back wheel. I heard they buried them all.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    I was gone for lot number 487.we skipped the big tractors. They do use massy there was one Massey tractor there for sale but she was very light. Wasn't too bad though.Regarding the 4610-there were a lot of them-I have the prices wrote down if you have the lot number?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Lot 381 please??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    L1985 wrote:
    I was gone for lot number 487.we skipped the big tractors. They do use massy there was one Massey tractor there for sale but she was very light. Wasn't too bad though.Regarding the 4610-there were a lot of them-I have the prices wrote down if you have the lot number?


    Sorry no lot nos l but wondering what the fiats made in general??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    Lot 381 made €2350. The fords in general made between1700 and4800. Average was around 3200 mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    Sorry just reread that. We only saw one fiat new Holland auctioned the red one 1998. That made 7400. The other fiats were too big for us so we left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Jasus that seems like mad money for a cab and backend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    Yeah two guys took it on. Mad thing was the first one went for 1800 and that one you could probably get to working order! You really needed to examine those tractors properly to see what you were getting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    Redriddick wrote:
    Jasus that seems like mad money for a cab and backend

    I was there to see it selling and at the time I though it was a complete rob, and I still think it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Commission is a bit steep too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    kevthegaff wrote:
    Commission is a bit steep too.


    How much is it??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 jimbob09


    thadg wrote: »
    does anybody know what the 1995 fiat 160-90 made ? lot no. 487

    She made €6800 plus commission and vat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Them tractors were a rob. Rough 4610's made over 3K. Clapped out battered rusty fiats making 6or 7k. All plus vat and commission.
    They'd be dear if they made half what they did!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 jimbob09


    Them tractors were a rob. Rough 4610's made over 3K. Clapped out battered rusty fiats making 6or 7k. All plus vat and commission.
    They'd be dear if they made half what they did!

    I'd agree with you on that one white clover. I stayed there like a clown until the end to see all the tractors/plant. The fiat/new holland L65 at 7400 plus all fees was as dear a tractor as I've seen in a long time. It's not like an L65 would be a major seller and have a good one of them let alone that one. And the MF 3645 I'd rate no better at 6500 as not a major seller either and have a good one of them. As the saying goes "expect the unexpected " at auctions!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Them tractors were a rob. Rough 4610's made over 3K. Clapped out battered rusty fiats making 6or 7k. All plus vat and commission.
    They'd be dear if they made half what they did!

    I'd say the second bidders went home happier then the winning bidders.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    I was really only interested in the cab and was bidding online but didn't catch what it went for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    jimbob09 wrote:
    I'd agree with you on that one white clover. I stayed there like a clown until the end to see all the tractors/plant. The fiat/new holland L65 at 7400 plus all fees was as dear a tractor as I've seen in a long time. It's not like an L65 would be a major seller and have a good one of them let alone that one. And the MF 3645 I'd rate no better at 6500 as not a major seller either and have a good one of them. As the saying goes "expect the unexpected " at auctions!!!

    What did those truck trailers make on the left as you walk into the yard??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 jimbob09


    What did those truck trailers make on the left as you walk into the yard??

    Both sold for about €4000 each plus commission and vat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Was shocked myself at condition of machines, thought the fords looked a bit better but I never even hopped into any of them. Anyways bought a fiat privately since, was able to drive it and check it out properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Was shocked myself at condition of machines, thought the fords looked a bit better but I never even hopped into any of them. Anyways bought a fiat privately since, was able to drive it and check it out properly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    We were there for 20 mins and left for home straight away


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Was shocked myself at condition of machines, thought the fords looked a bit better but I never even hopped into any of them. Anyways bought a fiat privately since, was able to drive it and check it out properly

    what model did you buy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    kevthegaff wrote:
    We were there for 20 mins and left for home straight away


    It's fun there just just to see, not with the view of buying. Thats the worst of it, they don't leave them running for long and you can't check out everything in them to see if it's working right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    It's fun there just just to see, not with the view of buying. Thats the worst of it, they don't leave them running for long and you can't check out everything in them to see if it's working right.

    Last auction I was at was merlin motors 10 yrs ago, enjoyed but the time of hammer didn't suit the cows! But still enjoyed seeing 20 fords and 6 fiats. Wonder how the jd s got on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Wonder how the jd s got on?

    Interesting to see what they went for. The JD 4055 was much nicer to spend the day in compared to a Ford 8210 or TW15 of the same era. Full power shift year box and a very comfortable air seat in the Jd!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/specialist-search-results/1302

    Its back this time Wilson Auctions are doing it, Saturday 30th July. Lots such as

    Tractors:
    6 x Massey Ferguson 135’s, 4 x Fiat 110-90’s, 3 x Landini 14500’s, 3 x Fiat F140’s, 3 x Fiat 140-90’s, 2 x Ford 4610’s, 1 x Ford TW15, 1 x Ford 8630, 1 x Ford TW25, 1 x Ford 8210, 1 x Fiat F130, 1 x Fiat 160-90, 2 x Landini 5830’s, 1 x Landini 1450, 1 x Landini 5830, 1 x Massey Ferguson 6190, 1 x Massey Ferguson 8210, 1 x Massey Ferguson 8120, 1 x Massey Ferguson 8150, 1 x Massey Ferguson 3645, 1 x Massey Ferguson 2720, 1 x Massey Ferguson 165
    Dozers:
    11 x Cat D4’s, 1 x Cat D3, 1 x Cat D6
    Excavators:
    4 x Cat 312 BL’s, 1 x Samsung SE-130 LCM-2
    Trailers:
    4 x Haku Trailers, 1 x Tim Trailer, King Low Loader Twin Axle Trailer
    Vehicles:
    2 x Mitsubishi Canter’s, 1 x Toyota Hiace, 1 x Ford Ranger
    Tyres, Engines, Work Benches & much more


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    The 135's look pretty tasty :).

    It looks like the service policy was, pull tractor in to garage grab bonnet and horse it over the nearest clamp of turf never to be seen again, big fans of the olde Air Cooled method id say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    i know its probably the last thing you'd think of looking at some of the tractors but would they have tax books? and what would be required to get a tractor taxed? i presume they don't have a reg plate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    timple23 wrote:
    i know its probably the last thing you'd think of looking at some of the tractors but would they have tax books? and what would be required to get a tractor taxed? i presume they don't have a reg plate?


    Being bord na mona state owned equipment I would assume that all that would be in order (??)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Being bord na mona state owned equipment I would assume that all that would be in order (??)

    why do none of them have reg plates? only fleet plates, they wouldn't have been on the road as such


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,935 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Being bord na mona state owned equipment I would assume that all that would be in order (??)

    The saying do as I say not as I do would be bord na mona's template, have first hand expirence dealing with them and it's a proper glorified semi - state can't get fired quango.....
    Wouldn't be unknown for tractors to get reddend on a Fri morning so lads could clock of early on full pay of course , and maybe pull another few days while the "mechanics/fitters" their try to fix it which usually results in a botched attempt and it having to go back to main dealers to sort out the mess


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