Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

brianregan09

I know its early days but it looks like City will piss the league and after that its a free for all

Also I thought this place was bad, There over on the chelsea thread calling for mourinho's head already ....christ above

Bobby Baccala

brianregan09 wrote: »

I know its early days but it looks like City will piss the league and after that its a free for all

Also I thought this place was bad, There over on the chelsea thread calling for mourinho's head already ....christ above

The pool thread is equally entertaining

emergingstar

S/o to the Arsenal fans who still defend Fabregas. Even Chelsea fans know he's a fraud now.

Mickeroo

Ozil didn't even make the bench today and still managed to score two more points than Coutinho in my fantasy team :pac:

Jaafa

BTW lads in the post match interview today Wenger said he was "optimistic" of a signing.

tayto lover

Didn't see the game so i'm looking forward to MOTD.
A win is a win. 3 valuable points gained.

the untitled user

Jaafa wrote: »

BTW lads in the post match interview today Wenger said he was "optimistic" of a signing.

He always says that. I think the chances of him signing someone between now and deadline day are around 50% going on previous seasons.

farna_boy

tayto lover wrote: »

Didn't see the game so i'm looking forward to MOTD.
A win is a win. 3 valuable points gained.

I wouldn't bother if I were you. If you saw the Liverpool game, you saw this game.

bad2dabone

brianregan09 wrote: »

I know its early days but it looks like City will piss the league and after that its a free for all

Also I thought this place was bad, There over on the chelsea thread calling for mourinho's head already ....christ above

Gas you'd swear they had generations of success before himself and Roman came along

Mr.Micro

Jaafa wrote: »

BTW lads in the post match interview today Wenger said he was "optimistic" of a signing.

He is probably talking about autographs, lol.

emergingstar

Your man from bt is suggesting Ozil as left out today cause he will be involved in some transfer deadline day madness

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

S/o to the Arsenal fans who still defend Fabregas. Even Chelsea fans know he's a fraud now.

Pretty much won them the league last year.

bad2dabone

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pretty much won them the league last year.

Ah now that's simply not true.

bad2dabone

bad2dabone wrote: »

Ah now that's simply not true.

Had a ridiculous amount of assists in the first half of the season when they built their lead that let them cruise to the end.

emergingstar

bad2dabone wrote: »

Ah now that's simply not true.

Don't let that get in they way though

symbolic

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't let that get in they way though

Yeah we're trying to bash arsenal/Wenger here.. We need a mod note so people don't go off buttons topic. Buttonftw knows all this stuff inside out... We are rubbing shoulders with the elite here. .

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/cesc-fabregas-has-one-fewer-assist-than-anyone-managed-in-all-of-last-season--and-more-than-all-eight-players-in-arsenals-midfield-9942340.html

Yeah he's a fraud. :rolleyes: wouldn't mind, didn't even enter Arsenal when I did the search.

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty much won them the league last year.

That's just not true. Costa had more goals than Fabregas assists by December. It's a moot point of course but Fab was an effective cog in the machine.

bad2dabone

gosplan wrote: »

That's just not true. Costa had more goals than Fabregas assists by December. It's a moot point of course but Fab was an effective cog in the machine.

Not forgetting hazard. Or John Terry. Chelsea won the league well as a team last year. It wasn't fabregas on his own and it's incorrect to suggest as much.

They wouldn't have won it without Cesc. I have no love for the guy at all but he was absolutely vital to Chelsea's title win. His form just so happened to track Chelsea's form last season, funny that.

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

That's just not true. Costa had more goals than Fabregas assists by December. It's a moot point of course but Fab was an effective cog in the machine.

There's always more goals than assists. The way he played at the start of last season was seriously exceptional, as laid out in the article I linked.

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

They wouldn't have won it without Cesc. I have no love for the guy at all but he was absolutely vital to Chelsea's title win. His form just so happened to track Chelsea's form last season, funny that.

So was Hazard, Costa, Matic, Terry, Ivan, Courtois.

Mr Blobby

Deleted User wrote: »

They wouldn't have won it without Cesc. I have no love for the guy at all but he was absolutely vital to Chelsea's title win. His form just so happened to track Chelsea's form last season, funny that.

You could say the same for Courtois,Terry,Matic,Costa and Hazard.
Cesc wasn't the reason they won the league. If i had to pick a single player it'd be Hazard.

Sure Cesc was pretty poor in the 2nd half of the season.

Mr Blobby

Mr Blobby wrote: »

You could say the same for Courtois,Terry,Matic,Costa and Hazard.
Cesc wasn't the reason they won the league. If i had to pick a single player it'd be Hazard.

Sure Cesc was pretty poor in the 2nd half of the season.

Hazard finished with 10 assists for the whole season.

It was Cesc who put them top, when he faltered so did the team but they could cruise to the title in massive part due to his outrageous first half of the season. We'd be jizzing like crazy if we had a player who could get 19 assists in a season however they were spread.

Looper007

Deleted User wrote: »

They wouldn't have won it without Cesc. I have no love for the guy at all but he was absolutely vital to Chelsea's title win. His form just so happened to track Chelsea's form last season, funny that.

He's been average since the turn of the year. And he has hasn't been the same player since he left us. The reason Chelsea won the title is down to Hazard, Costa and the defence simple as.

emergingstar

It was more of a tongue in cheek comment

But hey it took the heat of wenger for a while

symbolic

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We'd be jizzing like crazy

I can't imagine you ever jizzing over Arsenal till they win the league.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hazard finished with 10 assists for the whole season.

It was Cesc who put them top, when he faltered so did the team but they could cruise to the title in massive part due to his outrageous first half of the season. We'd be jizzing like crazy if we had a player who could get 19 assists in a season however they were spread.

Wow. All you need to win the league is for Cesc to play well for half a season. Shame it never worked that way for every other season he faded halfway through....

cson

Fabregas is gone; who cares about him? I love the guy, even though he forced his way out, and wish things had worked out differently but such is life.

I see Nabil Fekir notched a hatrick for Lyon this evening... Time maybe to readjust and take a punt on the likes of him an hope he can step it up a level. I know it's Ligue Un but Hazard came from there too.

bad2dabone

symbolic wrote: »

I can't imagine you ever jizzing over Arsenal till they win the league.

That's certainly a bizarre mental image. The lads all celebrating and then the celebrations turning very wrong as Buttonftw stands over them. Grinning. Lad in hand.

Drexel

emergingstar wrote: »

Your man from bt is suggesting Ozil as left out today cause he will be involved in some transfer deadline day madness

Has this appeared anywhere else?

I'd hate to lose him tbh

Soups123

Haven't seen the game was out today. Delighted with 3 points especially with results elsewhere going our way!

MOTD should be good especially the Pool game

symbolic

bad2dabone wrote: »

That's certainly a bizarre mental image. The lads all celebrating and then the celebrations turning very wrong as Buttonftw stands over them. Grinning. Lad in hand.

He might even struggle to get it up then

symbolic

Drexel wrote: »

Has this appeared anywhere else?

I'd hate to lose him tbh

If Ozil goes... I cry.

efb

Mr OG does it again!

emmetlego

Vermallen just scored for Barca... Delighted for him, class act!

kronsington

Do we know more on this Ozil situation?

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

There's always more goals than assists. The way he played at the start of last season was seriously exceptional, as laid out in the article I linked.

Yeah, I don't disagree he was great but so were others.

Check the points in first half vrs second half. Cesc out of form, injured and banned Costa but they keep getting the points.

So you could equally say the defence won them the league.

Then you could say Hazard did.

The truth is that the team did.

symbolic

gosplan wrote: »

Yeah, I don't disagree he was great but so were others.

Check the points in first half vrs second half. Cesc out of form, injured and banned Costa but they keep getting the points.

So you could equally say the defence won them the league.

Then you could say Hazard did.

The truth is that the team did.

I think if you find yourself having a discussion with him, you are missing his point.

Mr Blobby

kronsington wrote: »

Do we know more on this Ozil situation?

I'm 100% sure it's bullcrap.
If there was any truth to it we'd be hearing more from more reliable people.

gandalf

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I'm 100% sure it's bullcrap.
If there was any truth to it we'd be hearing more from more reliable people.

He's probably been asked to stay on the Phone until the transfer windows closes to tap up a selection of his national team mates

bad2dabone

Mr Blobby wrote: »

I'm 100% sure it's bullcrap.
If there was any truth to it we'd be hearing more from more reliable people.

He also tweeted congratulations to the lads today, he's unlikely to be doing that if he's on his way out.

brianregan09

I'd be flabbergasted if Ozil went anywhere no chance of him leaving imo

emmetlego

It was widely reported by reliable Twitter folk earlier in the month that he was signing an extension!

MaxPower89

Gabriel looks a super player, think he might keep Mert out of the team long term.

We need to up our game big time if we are to have any chance of a title run, I'm sure we will improve but a top striker would really help.

emergingstar

Still holding out for gzotè

bad2dabone

emergingstar wrote: »

Still holding out for gzotè

Another attacking midfielder? Why?

gosplan

I think if you take stock, then there's a lot of reasons to be pleased since the opening day fcuk-up.

We're not scoring but we're not conceding either and that's massive for us. Just think back three years and imagine an out of form us conceding one goal and getting 7 points from 3 games.

We're creating chances - lots of chances. Between them Sanchez, Giroud, and Wally can score a decent amount of goals. What we're seeing now is depressing us but their real level is a bit above this. It may not be where we want it to be but it's more than a combined 1 goal in 4 games.

This is us grinding out points, just like Chelsea did at the tail end of last year.

I'm not saying we'll win the league or anything but there's a lot that's working well.

West Ham, Palace, Pool, Newc was not an easy start.

We could have done better but we could have done way worse.

We've used 4 CB's in the last 3 games and conceded once. We've also seen about the best DMF performances you could hope for. Lots of problems hav been fixed.

emergingstar

bad2dabone wrote: »

Another attacking midfielder? Why?

Think there is room for another winger with goals in them

EuropeanSon

gosplan wrote: »

I think if you take stock, then there's a lot of reasons to be pleased since the opening day fcuk-up.

We're not scoring but we're not conceding either and that's massive for us. Just think back three years and imagine an out of form us conceding one goal and getting 7 points from 3 games.

We're creating chances - lots of chances. Between them Sanchez, Giroud, and Wally can score a decent amount of goals. What we're seeing now is depressing us but their real level is a bit above this. It may not be where we want it to be but it's more than a combined 1 goal in 4 games.

This is us grinding out points, just like Chelsea did at the tail end of last year.

I'm not saying we'll win the league or anything but there's a lot that's working well.

West Ham, Palace, Pool, Newc was not an easy start.

We could have done better but we could have done way worse.

We've used 4 CB's in the last 3 games and conceded once. We've also seen about the best DMF performances you could hope for. Lots of problems hav been fixed.

I agree with most of this, except that I would argue that West Ham and Pool at home, and Palace and Newcastle away was definitely a relatively easy start, as these things go.