Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

Mickeroo

There's enough in the squad to cover Coquelin, don't give a crap if we don't sign a DM. No striker is unforgivable though, just as baffling as not getting a CB last year.

Soups123

Mickeroo wrote: »

There's enough in the squad to cover Coquelin, don't give a crap if we don't sign a DM. No striker is unforgivable though, just as baffling as not getting a CB last year.

100% agree, kinda why the Rabiot link isnt really exciting me! Be deligthed with him but we can manage there.

If we dont bring in something there we only have OG who is a CF in our squad, I would have rather we kept Akpom and had some alternative of sorts.

For me Walcott and Welbeck whilst they offer options out wide are not going to solve any problems in centre

MaxPower89

jester77 wrote: »

I think a bit of perspective is needed regarding the transfer window. We have a pretty solid squad, if we are adding then we need to be adding world class. We need a backup DM and starting CF. We have a very strong midfield and we can change formation easily. CF is an issue, but the talent was simply not available. Look at what Liverpool and Utd just paid for CFs, ridiculous amounts for average or unheard of players. I'm glad Wenger is not panic buying like other clubs and I am disappointed we didn't get a world class CF, but at least we are not throwing around silly money. Unfortunately I think we will struggle with goals in comparison to Chelsea and City which could lead us to contesting 3/4th again.

We need to be adding someone who is better than Giroud, world class is probably not attainable realistically. There is definitely a small market for top strikers but we buy the company line on this too much. This should have been the No.1 priority for us, probably for as long 18 months now.

Maybe playing Alexis up front with Walcott on the wing is an option. Aguero is similar in stature(not the same players I know!) to Alexis and City seem to do ok goalswise.

Something needs to give imo, we will probably win a few games with Grioud up top now, but overall can we win the league with him, mostly likely not.

Marty McFly

Mickeroo wrote: »

There's enough in the squad to cover Coquelin, don't give a crap if we don't sign a DM. No striker is unforgivable though, just as baffling as not getting a CB last year.

Agreed I would have liked a DM but it's nowhere near as important as a CF is.

Having Giroud as our only recognised CF is criminal a man needs a ton of chances to convert one and has the pace of a turtle just isn't good enough for a club like Arsenal.

bad2dabone

Marty McFly wrote: »

Agreed I would have liked a DM but it's nowhere near as important as a CF is.

Having Giroud as our only recognised CF is criminal a man needs a ton of chances to convert one and has the pace of a turtle just isn't good enough for a club like Arsenal.

Turtles are strong swimmers. Don't go dragging turtles down, i turtley won't stand for it!

Alfred Borden

https://twitter.com/lynseyhooper/status/638621473842794496

DeclanRe

I'm glad all these confirmations of what we already know are coming through now. Means I wont be getting my hopes up and constantly checking online. We're not signing anyone

Alfred Borden

We are gonna miss out on the manager switches next year too.

Marty McFly

If we don't sign a CF I think we should at least recall Akpom and give him a chance.

Quazzie

Alfred Borden wrote: »

We are gonna miss out on the manager switches next year too.

This year was the year to get Klopp in my opinion. The merry-go-round will start again next year and we'll be stuck with Garry Monk.

JustTheOne

Build a new stadium they said.

compete with the big boys they said.

keano_afc

Marty McFly wrote: »

If we don't sign a CF I think we should at least recall Akpom and give him a chance.

Or re-sign Afobe.

Marty McFly

keano_afc wrote: »

Or re-sign Afobe.

He'd cost us money when he couldn't cut it the first time, at least Akpom is ours recall him and give him a chance. Has to be worth a try with options we have.

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

This year was the year to get Klopp in my opinion. The merry-go-round will start again next year and we'll be stuck with Garry Monk.

Haven't you heard? In they Liverpool thread they're saying Klopp is already lined up for when Rogers has a bad run. He likes Liverpool and has huge respect for their history.

emergingstar

Time to get the best out of what we have

Really hope Welbeck will have a breakthrough season

Nemeses2050

Flamini on the move it seems:

FLAMINI SET FOR EXIT?

Arsenal fans will want their club to bring in a few new faces today but there could be movement the other way with Mathieu Flamini possibly heading for the Emirates exit door, according to the Daily Mail.

The report claims the Frenchman is surplus to requirements at the Gunners and can leave the club today.

Galatasaray are thought to be interested in the French midfielder. - Skysports

Alfred Borden

https://twitter.com/MattHughesTimes/status/638642701387345920

Nemeses2050

Even Rooney doesn't know who Martial is

"To be honest, yesterday on the plane, Wayne Rooney came to speak to me and asked me who Martial was, because the English press had started to speak," said Schneiderlin.

"I told him he’s a great player with great potential, who has played some good matches with Monaco last season and the beginning of this."

keano_afc

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

Even Rooney doesn't know who Martial is

"To be honest, yesterday on the plane, Wayne Rooney came to speak to me and asked me who Martial was, because the English press had started to speak," said Schneiderlin.

"I told him he’s a great player with great potential, who has played some good matches with Monaco last season and the beginning of this."

Thats because he's more use to extra-Martial activities.

/gets coat

efb

Some say it's martial law over on the United thread...

/getscoat

greendom

JustTheOne wrote: »

Build a new stadium they said.

compete with the big boys they said.

yes by buying players such as Sanchez and Ozil and keeping hold of everyone else it is proving to be a success. Ok this window has been a bit of a disaster but the strategy was the right one.

The real killer has been the virtual ending of FFP. Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor. Fair play to City and Chelsea for adopting the right financial strategy.

Alfred Borden

greendom wrote: »

yes by buying players such as Sanchez and Ozil and keeping hold of everyone else it is proving to be a success. Ok this window has been a bit of a disaster but the strategy was the right one.

The real killer has been the virtual ending of FFP. Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor. Fair play to City and Chelsea for adopting the right financial strategy.

No point of us getting a rich owner that is willing to invest if we arent even gonna spend what we have right now. New owner and manager should give us a fresh start.

Quazzie

greendom wrote: »

yes by buying players such as Sanchez and Ozil and keeping hold of everyone else it is proving to be a success. Ok this window has been a bit of a disaster but the strategy was the right one.

The real killer has been the virtual ending of FFP. Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor. Fair play to City and Chelsea for adopting the right financial strategy.

So waiting till the last day, hoping that something pops up was the correct strategy to use. Give it over will ya.

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

Agreed I would have liked a DM but it's nowhere near as important as a CF is.

Having Giroud as our only recognised CF is criminal a man needs a ton of chances to convert one and has the pace of a turtle just isn't good enough for a club like Arsenal.

we have wellbeck, walcott and sanchez to play CF mate

greendom

Quazzie wrote: »

So waiting till the last day, hoping that something pops up was the correct strategy to use. Give it over will ya.

I've no idea what happened over the course of the transfer window and I'm not going to guess. I was talking about the direction and financial strategy of the club, not this window.

greendom

Alfred Borden wrote: »

No point of us getting a rich owner that is willing to invest if we arent even gonna spend what we have right now. New owner and manager should give us a fresh start.

Wenger will spend if the right player is available.

It looks like that's not been the case this Summer.

Marty McFly

jonneymendoza wrote: »

we have wellbeck, walcott and sanchez to play CF mate

Walcott and Sanchez aren't centre forwards. Welbeck didn't exactly set the world alight and Giroud is a good squad player in the Wiltord mould.

symbolic

greendom wrote: »

Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor.

It's definitely helps anyway.

See the design for Chelsea's new stadium is out. Talk of 500 million, and says will be paid for by Roman. Is that true? Can 500 million just move from Roman to Chelsea like that, or is ther3 more to it?

Marty McFly

greendom wrote: »

yes by buying players such as Sanchez and Ozil and keeping hold of everyone else it is proving to be a success. Ok this window has been a bit of a disaster but the strategy was the right one.

The real killer has been the virtual ending of FFP. Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor. Fair play to City and Chelsea for adopting the right financial strategy.

Rich benefactor excuse is a crock of **** really Chelsea now are self sufficient something most people choose to ignore, do Bayern Munich, Juventus, Athletico Madrid etc live off rich benefactor's?

Plus were not exactly in the depths squalor we could easily spend 100 million so please stop playing that card.

Christ sake even Newcastle have spent 50 million this summer

greendom

Marty McFly wrote: »

Rich benefactor excuse is a crock of **** really Chelsea now are self sufficient something most people choose to ignore, do Bayern Munich, Juventus, Athletico Madrid etc live off rich benefactor's?

Plus were not exactly in the depths squalor we could easily spend 100 million so please stop playing that card.

Christ sake even Newcastle have spent 50 million this summer

Would we want any player that Newcastle purchased? We are looking for an elite level centre forward. It's plain to see they are not 2 a penny, just look at what Man U spent on a prospect.

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

Walcott and Sanchez aren't centre forwards. Welbeck didn't exactly set the world alight and Giroud is a good squad player in the Wiltord mould.

sanchez is a CF mate, just play him up top and job done. Wellbeck has only had one season at arsenal.

give him time and Giroud is above average as a CF. The only players that are better then him are the suarez and the agguero's and those players are not cheap or easily available

Nemeses2050

Marty McFly wrote: »

Rich benefactor excuse is a crock of **** really Chelsea now are self sufficient something most people choose to ignore, do Bayern Munich, Juventus, Athletico Madrid etc live off rich benefactor's?

Plus were not exactly in the depths squalor we could easily spend 100 million so please stop playing that card.

Christ sake even Newcastle have spent 50 million this summer

Chelsea may be self-sufficient now, but they still have sugar-daddy to back them up...that's why they can sign anybody they want and if it doesn't work they can loan him out in six months time eg: Salah, Cuadrado et al..they have 28 players on loan away from Chelsea...

But Arsenal can't do that...it's hard money so they have to be careful and spend it Wisely...

Marty McFly

greendom wrote: »

Would we want any player that Newcastle purchased? We are looking for an elite level centre forward. It's plain to see they are not 2 a penny, just look at what Man U spent on a prospect.

No we wouldn't want any player they signed.

But you just blamed money being the issue holding us back as to why we can't be successful.

I just pointed out that the money excuse is tired and over used we have lots of money and even Newcastle can afford to splash 50 million around the place as an example that your excuse is invalid.

Mickeroo

Yeah there's no excuse for leaving the squad a player short two seasons in a row, it's just incompetence plain and simple. I fully accept there aren't any world class strikers available at the moment but that doesn't excuse going into the season with only one decent option up front.

Quazzie

greendom wrote: »

Would we want any player that Newcastle purchased? We are looking for an elite level centre forward. It's plain to see they are not 2 a penny, just look at what Man U spent on a prospect.

Stop being so pedantic. The Newcastle reference is obviously in reference to the amount not the players.

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

No we wouldn't want any player they signed.

But you just blamed money being the issue holding us back as to why we can't be successful.

I just pointed out that the money excuse is tired and over used we have lots of money and even Newcastle can afford to splash 50 million around the place as an example that your excuse is invalid.

like i said before, only world class players like agguero and that bloke from Juv/Chile(the DM) can upgrade our team and those players aint bloody easy to get.

its pointless getting a dm or a cf thats barely better then what we have now.

At this moment in time, only a world class player can join us, not another squad/average player. complete waste of time and money.

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

Stop being so pedantic. The Newcastle reference is obviously in reference to the amount not the players.

So you're of the belief that if you have the money, it should be spent....regardless of whether it improves the team?

Marty McFly

jonneymendoza wrote: »

sanchez is a CF mate, just play him up top and job done. Wellbeck has only had one season at arsenal.

give him time and Giroud is above average as a CF. The only players that are better then him are the suarez and the agguero's and those players are not cheap or easily available

Job done we tried Sanchez last season as a CF it didn't work so clearly not job done.

And yes Giroud is average we need a world class CF. Giroud isn't fit to lace the boots of our past CFs .

Quazzie

Basil3 wrote: »

So you're of the belief that if you have the money, it should be spent....regardless of whether it improves the team?

I'll make it as simple as possible. The reference to Newcastle was made to show that the excuse, that we don't have money isn't valid.

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

Job done we tried Sanchez last season as a CF it didn't work so clearly not job done.

And yes Giroud is average we need a world class CF. Giroud isn't fit to lace the boots of our past CFs .

we hardly played him at cf. one or two games as a cf every 2 months is not enough. play him as a cf for a whole 2months and u will see he is up for the task.

Giroud is above average, on a scale of 1-10 his easily a 6.5/7

Only 8+ will be a worthy upgrade and anyone above 8+ is someone like agguero, suarez etc.

Name me a 8+ player thats available??

Benzema is barely any better then Giroud. a 7/7.5. his not on the same level as agguero or suarez so his a waste of time IMO

Alfred Borden

https://twitter.com/Soccerissue/status/638651289295941633

JustTheOne

greendom wrote: »

yes by buying players such as Sanchez and Ozil and keeping hold of everyone else it is proving to be a success. Ok this window has been a bit of a disaster but the strategy was the right one.

The real killer has been the virtual ending of FFP. Essentially this means to be a success you need a rich benefactor. Fair play to City and Chelsea for adopting the right financial strategy.

I might get slated for this but all we had to compete against for Sanchez was Liverpool.

Hardly shows we are able to compete with the big boys.

Drexel

really thought we'd get some sort of alternative to Giroud. Didnt think it would be an upgrade but maybe a younger different type of striker.

Giroud is the only player in our squad who can play up front on his own. Welbeck is much better on the wing (but still no good I think) and Walcott and Sanchez arent great in the center either.

jonneymendoza

JustTheOne wrote: »

I might get slated for this but all we had to compete against for Sanchez was Liverpool.

Hardly shows we are able to compete with the big boys.

and city

Marty McFly

jonneymendoza wrote: »

we hardly played him at cf. one or two games as a cf every 2 months is not enough. play him as a cf for a whole 2months and u will see he is up for the task.

Giroud is above average, on a scale of 1-10 his easily a 6.5/7

Only 8+ will be a worthy upgrade and anyone above 8+ is someone like agguero, suarez etc.

Name me a 8+ player thats available??

Benzema is barely any better then Giroud. a 7/7.5. his not on the same level as agguero or suarez so his a waste of time IMO

So your telling me in the last two years a CF better than Giroud hasnt moved clubs? Its not just this window we have needed a CF.

jonneymendoza

Drexel wrote: »

really thought we'd get some sort of alternative to Giroud. Didnt think it would be an upgrade but maybe a younger different type of striker.

Giroud is the only player in our squad who can play up front on his own. Welbeck is much better on the wing (but still no good I think) and Walcott and Sanchez arent great in the center either.

sanoogo?

jonneymendoza

Marty McFly wrote: »

So your telling me in the last two years a CF better than Giroud hasnt moved clubs? Its not just this window we have needed a CF.

bar suarez. no one else

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

I'll make it as simple as possible. The reference to Newcastle was made to show that the excuse, that we don't have money isn't valid.

Wenger certainly isn't saying we don't have the money. The players we want aren't available.

That said, I still don't think we would pay a player £250,000+ a week in wages like some other clubs would.

greendom

Quazzie wrote: »

Stop being so pedantic. The Newcastle reference is obviously in reference to the amount not the players.

But the difficulty we have is in finding the right players that want to come and that the club they are currently contracted to want to sell. No pedantry involved!

JustTheOne

jonneymendoza wrote: »

and city

I clearly remember Pelligrini saying he loved Sanchez but they had only bought navas and had no room for Sanchez.

Unless you remember it different?