Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

For me its more that Welbeck can play down the left or centrally. Right now Alexis seems to be our only player who will play down that flank.

The Jeff did look good down the left in preseason, however.....

Alfred Borden

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Yet you will get people that defend Wenger and the board. No player out there that could improve us? No player out there that could improve on Welbecks spot now? We deserve better.

Some eejit coming out and saying we can sign virtually any player in the world only makes things worse, mainly because it simply isn't true.

DeclanRe

That Aleksandr Kokorin loan attempt moves makes a lot more sense now

Alfred Borden

Basil3 wrote: »

Some eejit coming out and saying we can sign virtually any player in the world only makes things worse, mainly because it simply isn't true.

The reasonable fans knew we didnt have 200 million to spend but we did have upwards of 70 million to get some signings in. We have stood still imo and a top 4 fight looks likely again.

Mr.Micro

It's disappointing about Welbeck. I just don't get it with Wenger. He never seems to plan for the unexpected. It's seems to me it's more about amassing a huge fortune for a fund to buy players, that are not bought. Nothing to do, with the actual squad.

Alfred Borden

He will be like a new signing when we do nothing in January

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/639447358560972800

Giggsy11

There is something wrong with Arsenal. Players who are reported to miss weeks end up missing few months.

L'prof

Giggsy11 wrote: »

There is something wrong with Arsenal. Players who are reported to miss weeks end up missing few months.

I think we've massively improved on that front though

Quazzie

greendom wrote: »

excellent article

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2593562/transfer-market-is-not-a-magic-fix-for-a-teams-issues

Bullshít article that doesn't point at all to the fact that we only have one striker and he isn't anywhere near the standard we need to win the league. A proven striker, given the amount of chances we create would see us in a much better position.

This is the kind of tripe that the Wengerites will be coming out with for the next six months.

DeclanRe

Seen a comment somewhere that makes a lot of sense, I we'd announced Welbecks injury before the deadline closed and we were actually in negations for a player, we'd have been in a weaker position to make a deal, other club would want more money etc. So i can see the sense there to be fair.
Still should have gotten someone in though

Marty McFly

L'prof wrote: »

I think we've massively improved on that front though

Have we? Look at Welbeck's injury record at United versus at Arsenal.

Wilshere is out once again

greendom

Quazzie wrote: »

Bullshít article that doesn't point at all to the fact that we only have one striker and he isn't anywhere near the standard we need to win the league. A proven striker, given the amount of chances we create would see us in a much better position.

This is the kind of tripe that the Wengerites will be coming out with for the next six months.

Agree with that but there is no doubting the window has become a competition in itself.

wawaman

Arsenal: The only club who can beat itself

Bounty Hunter

guess that (the injury being known before the deadline) explains why Joel Campbell is still at the club

How much had we in cash reserves last books and when was that? Since transfer fees are paid in instalments we easily could've spent as much as City without making a loss.

Imagine how badly the window would have gone if we'd publicised Welbeck's injury. Maybe ee would have accidentally released Sanchez or something. :rolleyes:

Really, really pathetic stuff from the club.

Quazzie

greendom wrote: »

Agree with that but there is no doubting the window has become a competition in itself.

i don't think anyone (or at least not a lot seriously) were expecting us to outspend Ciy, Chelsea or even United. Heck we're even used to losing the "Transfer Window High Score" to Spurs. It is however unacceptabe, even more so with recent revelations, that we didn't go all out for the striker that could complete us. I can understand the Wellbeck injury being kept a secret, but Wenger definitely knew, and he didn't act on this information. It might be his biggest mistake at the club, if at the end of the year, we fall short because of it.

greendom

Quazzie wrote: »

i don't think anyone (or at least not a lot seriously) were expecting us to outspend Ciy, Chelsea or even United. Heck we're even used to losing the "Transfer Window High Score" to Spurs. It is however unacceptabe, even more so with recent revelations, that we didn't go all out for the striker that could complete us. I can understand the Wellbeck injury being kept a secret, but Wenger definitely knew, and he didn't act on this information. It might be his biggest mistake at the club, if at the end of the year, we fall short because of it.

We'll never know but I imagine he did act - it just didn't come off

Marty McFly

greendom wrote: »

We'll never know but I imagine he did act - it just didn't come off

Whether he did or not is irrelevant really as we are once again left short.


It's complete and utter incompetence.

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

Bullshít article that doesn't point at all to the fact that we only have one striker and he isn't anywhere near the standard we need to win the league. A proven striker, given the amount of chances we create would see us in a much better position.

This is the kind of tripe that the Wengerites will be coming out with for the next six months.

I think you'll find that the 'Wengerites' would have liked a world class striker to be signed this transfer window as well. I'm sure they would have taken any striker if they'd known about Welbeck.

I was hoping that maybe we would find a diamond in the rough for the January window, similar to Gabriel, but unfortunately now we're going to have Welbeck who will be LANS.

greendom

greendom wrote: »

We'll never know but I imagine he did act - it just didn't come off

I imagine his reaction was to dress in a black and white striped top and pretend to be trapped in an invisible box. Would've been as effective.

emergingstar

Quazzie wrote: »

Bullshít article that doesn't point at all to the fact that we only have one striker and he isn't anywhere near the standard we need to win the league. A proven striker, given the amount of chances we create would see us in a much better position.

This is the kind of tripe that the Wengerites will be coming out with for the next six months.

Last week I praised one of your posts

But now I see your gone back to your lazy bullshîting way of posting

"Wengerities"

Whatever point your trying to make is null and void over stupid things like this

greendom

Marty McFly wrote: »

Whether he did or not is irrelevant really as we are once again left short.


It's complete and utter incompetence.

It's looking that way, shame we didn't hold onto Akpom would have been a chance to see what he was made of.

emergingstar

greendom wrote: »

excellent article

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2593562/transfer-market-is-not-a-magic-fix-for-a-teams-issues

Excellent article

Love how seasons are defined by signings and people thinking teams can't change with coaching, tactics etcnr

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

Excellent article

Love how seasons are defined by signings and people thinking teams can't change with coaching, tactics etcnr

As I've said before, if lack of quality coaching and tactical inflexibility is what's held this side back for so long then Wenger should have been gone long ago.

Marty McFly

greendom wrote: »

It's looking that way, shame we didn't hold onto Akpom would have been a chance to see what he was made of.

Yea I've said it a few times now we should recall Akpom give him a chance at least it would give us a different option along with giving him a chance to prove himself.

Campbell will really need to show his true worth now if he's to make it at Arsenal.

I'm clinging onto a glimmer of hope someone can have a breakout season.

greendom

Marty McFly wrote: »

Yea I've said it a few times now we should recall Akpom give him a chance at least it would give us a different option along with giving him a chance to prove himself.

Campbell will really need to show his true worth now if he's to make it at Arsenal.

I'm clinging onto a glimmer of hope someone can have a breakout season.

Wonder where we would have been last season if Bellerin had not been good enough for the Premier League

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As I've said before, if lack of quality coaching and tactical inflexibility is what's held this side back for so long then Wenger should have been gone long ago.

That's a different argument and a valid one

But writing off the season cause of lack of signings is not

At this stage I'm starting to wonder if Campbell hanging around is ultimately a sign of a massive lack of ambition on his part unless he's being lied to by the management.

Quazzie

emergingstar wrote: »

Last week I praised one of your posts

But now I see your gone back to your lazy bullshîting way of posting

"Wengerities"

Whatever point your trying to make is null and void over stupid things like this

I deeply deeply crave your approval!!!!


Ask me bollix!

You can't refute what I say so you try ignore my post to make your argument seem legit. It doesn't work like that.

Marty McFly

emergingstar wrote: »

That's a different argument and a valid one

But writing off the season cause of lack of signings is not

Well if we end up with no recognised CF it will fact not a valid point.

emergingstar

Marty McFly wrote: »

Well if we end up with no recognised CF it will fact not a valid point.

Sanchez was actually signed as a CF and he promised theo he will play there

emergingstar

Quazzie wrote: »

I deeply deeply crave your approval!!!!


Ask me bollix!

You can't refute what I say so you try ignore my post to make your argument seem legit. It doesn't work like that.

You post bollox you get pulled up on it simple as that

DeclanRe

Woooaaaah! Well that was a nice few days without the infighting, here we go again :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

tayto lover

It could be a blessing in disguise that Welbeck is out. I don't rate him very highly. Now Campbell might get an odd game and has the chance to impress.

In the World Cup he was a big cog in a small wheel.
With Arsenal he is a small cog in a big wheel. Now is his chance.

Quazzie

emergingstar wrote: »

You post bollox you get pulled up on it simple as that

Do you think that the striking options we currently have are good enough to win the league?

emergingstar

Quazzie wrote: »

Do you think that the striking options we currently have are good enough to win the league?

No I don't

Alfred Borden

Wayne Veysey is saying Welbeck is out for 4 to 6 months. If true, thats his season gone with no preseason or nothing.

Quazzie

emergingstar wrote: »

No I don't

Well then how is what I said Bollix then?

Marty McFly

emergingstar wrote: »

Sanchez was actually signed as a CF and he promised theo he will play there

You really trying to go with that one? Really?

Wenger clearly prefers Sanchez out wide it's also were he plays his best football playing him CF isn't playing to his strengths and will be a sign of Wenger shifting formation due to a lack of options.


Walcott it's quite clear to everyone Walcott isn't the answer at CF and never will be. Wenger has been banging that drum for years make him learn his trade on the wing then moves up CF etc I think even Walcott knows at this stage Wenger was taking the piss. He's not exactly a young prodigy if he was going to play as a CF all the time it would have happened by now.

emergingstar

Quazzie wrote: »

Well then how is what I said Bollix then?

Your wengerietts comment

I didn't read the rest of the post

Skylinehead

Quazzie wrote: »

I deeply deeply crave your approval!!!!


Ask me bollix!

You can't refute what I say so you try ignore my post to make your argument seem legit. It doesn't work like that.

The whole "Wengerites" thing is a bit prickish in fairness.

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

That's a different argument and a valid one

But writing off the season cause of lack of signings is not

2 things. Firstly talking about coaching just shows desperation to distract from an indefensible transfer window, I didn't bring it up.
Secondly is there anything other than blind faith to suggest that after one of our worst summers since we last won the league that we will suddenly cotton on to some new tactics or coaching method that'll win us the league?

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

The whole "Wengerites" thing is a bit prickish in fairness.

Can't think of a more accurate way of describing people who support him Jo matter what. Well, not within the site's rules.

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

2 things. Firstly talking about coaching just shows desperation to distract from an indefensible transfer window, I didn't bring it up.
Secondly is there anything other than blind faith to suggest that after one of our worst summers since we last won the league that we will suddenly cotton on to some new tactics or coaching method that'll win us the league?

It happened before in fairness

Alfred Borden

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Wayne Veysey is saying Welbeck is out for 4 to 6 months. If true, thats his season gone with no preseason or nothing.

No need to sign anyone after Christmas so.

Pudders

I don't actually know whether to laugh or cry.

Charlie Austin for £15m would have been a replacement for Wellbeck and was doable. You would have sold him easily without losing much.

This is just either utter incompetence or contempt for the fans.

It is going to be toxic at the emirates.

I'm on a whatsapp group with 10 lads, all season ticket holders, who we go to matches together / meet up for pints. It was 50:50 wenger in/out. Its now 100 out, none in.

Not replacing Theo that winter transfer season was insane. This is worse.

I am baffled.

The only way the club could do something positive is match Bayern's donation to the refugee crisis. Somethings more important than football.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I would absolutely LOVE for Campbell to get game time vs Stoke, and not two mins at the end.

emergingstar

Pudders wrote: »

I don't actually know whether to laugh or cry.

Charlie Austin for £15m would have been a replacement for Wellbeck and was doable. You would have sold him easily without losing much.

This is just either utter incompetence or contempt for the fans.

It is going to be toxic at the emirates.

I'm on a whatsapp group with 10 lads, all season ticket holders, who we go to matches together / meet up for pints. It was 50:50 wenger in/out. Its now 100 out, none in.

Not replacing Theo that winter transfer season was insane. This is worse.

I am baffled.

The only way the club could do something positive is match Bayern's donation to the refugee crisis. Somethings more important than football.

Ye all want him out fair enough

What if we went the next 15/20 games unbeaten what then?

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

It happened before in fairness

Henry. Simple really. Also came after being top 2 for what, 7 straight years?

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

Ye all want we get out fair enough

What if we went the next 15/20 games unbeaten what then?

How many draws?