Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

shano_88

What changes are we expecting for tomorrow? Debuchy, Gibbs and maybe Ox in for Monreal, Bellerin and Ramsey?

extra gravy

Wouldn't mind Arteta replacing Coq so he's fresh for Saturday...we're going to need him.

Looper007

shano_88 wrote: »

What changes are we expecting for tomorrow? Debuchy, Gibbs and maybe Ox in for Monreal, Bellerin and Ramsey?

I think we need to wrap our first team midfielders In cotton wool right now. I rest Coq put in Arteta for him, give Ramsey a rest put on Ox instead on the right wing. I give Monreal a rest. Is Mert Fit? If he is I give Kos a rest too.

greendom

Looper007 wrote: »

I think we need to wrap our first team midfielders In cotton wool right now. I rest Coq put in Arteta for him, give Ramsey a rest put on Ox instead on the right wing. I give Monreal a rest. Is Mert Fit? If he is I give Kos a rest too.

Mert has not fully recovered from his virus, he also had a minor car crash yesterday evening.

greendom

greendom wrote: »

Mert has not fully recovered from his virus, he also had a minor car crash yesterday evening.

Dat new medical team... :pac:

shano_88

greendom wrote: »

Mert has not fully recovered from his virus, he also had a minor car crash yesterday evening.

Ya, he trained with the squad today but isnt traveling to Zagreb according to reports.

Wenger wont make too many changes. Four at an absolute maximum I would say.

brianregan09

All this talk of resting players and if Wenger does it and we drop points he'll get rode for it , Screw that stick out our strongest team and lets get 3 points out in Zagreb 1st we'll worry about Chelsea then , This is a problem Arsenal have ....Lets rest players sure this'll be handy

Sure we were all sure we were going to put 5 or 6 past West Ham and look what happened there

tayto lover

brianregan09 wrote: »

All this talk of resting players and if Wenger does it and we drop points he'll get rode for it , Screw that stick out our strongest team and lets get 3 points out in Zagreb 1st we'll worry about Chelsea then , This is a problem Arsenal have ....Lets rest players sure this'll be handy

Sure we were all sure we were going to put 5 or 6 past West Ham and look what happened there

And Anderlecht last season.
You're right.
I see at most 2 changes, a defender and a midfielder.

Roaster

Regarding Chelski on Saturday I think Theo has to start. He's scored goals against them on numerous occasions. I cannot recollect OG ever playing well against that lot.

Should be able to make wholesale changes for tomorrow and still win comfortably. No excuses.

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

It would be so Arsenal to lose at the weekend it's hard to imagine any other outcome.

I'm gonna have to put a tenner on Chelsea this weekend...

gosplan

What's with all the 'no excuses' stuff.

Can we at least watch the game first?

Muirshin Durkin

Manchester United and David Moyes, remember that, no game is a given! Im actually a bit nervous for Saturday.

tayto lover

Muirshin Durkin wrote: »

Manchester United and David Moyes, remember that, no game is a given! Im actually a bit nervous for Saturday.

Me too.
Mourinho usually gets the better of Wenger tactically.

shano_88

Ramsey and Bellerin haven't travelled to Zagreb and are being given a rest.

Suprised there not travelling but happy enough with the decision.

emmetlego

More than likely Ramsey is dropped!!

shano_88

emmetlego wrote: »

More than likely Ramsey is dropped!!

I doubt it, He'll start Saturday imo.

greendom

emmetlego wrote: »

More than likely Ramsey is dropped!!

he's probably our most energetic player on the pitch and has played in 2 high intensity games for Wales too. Good decision imo.

greendom

Deleted User wrote: »

Dat new medical team... :pac:

Apparently the Germans don't believe in anti-biotics (anti-virals too I imagine) - go figure

Marty McFly

I must be the only one nervous about both games away games in Europe are never easy.

And we'll Chelsea are Chelsea current champions with some dangerous player they will findeed form soon and this will be the exact kind if game that could kick them into gear hopefully not I do love to see Mourinho squirm.

emmetlego

So both Manchesters lost tonight. But importantly, city lost Kompany to what looks like a serious enough calf injury, and they took a risk on Aguero with 20 to go... Now I know Juventus were brilliant in how they played the 'away' game, but they are not the same force as last year, and it shows that City are not going to be the invincible force some of the media would have you believe.

United were very poor, and made silly mistakes at bad times. They were not creative at all. If these sort of results continue, we may see the confidence of both the Mancs shook a little.

I was watching both games at once, but saw most of the key moments. I'm slightly more upbeat after those 2 games. Now all we need is a lackluster performance by Jose's men against the Israelites, and a comfortable display by the Gunners and a 4-0 win. Please!

Ol' Donie

Mickeroo wrote: »

It would be so Arsenal to lose at the weekend it's hard to imagine any other outcome.

It is hard to shake that feeling.

Then I remind myself that if we had a start like them, and Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey and Cazorla were coming to town (with that nasty piece of work Paulista ☺ ), I'd be sh*tting myself.

COME ON YOU GUNNERS!

Edit: Oh, yeah, and Giroud and, eh, Walcott. Ahem.

Ol' Donie

extra gravy wrote: »

Wouldn't mind Arteta replacing Coq so he's fresh for Saturday...we're going to need him.

Agree 100%.

Barlett

It would be so typical Arsenal to lose to Chelsea but I really hope I'm wrong!

gosplan

I don't think we'll see wholescale changes.

I get it should be straightforward but the tried and tested route by managers seems to be qualify first, then rest players.

Putting out a second 11 could be a massive massive backfire.

Put out a decent squad, go a couple of goals up if possible and then take it handy.

Arteta for Coq would completely change the way we've been playing for months. With no Ramsey, it'd be a very lightweight midfield asking for trouble tbh.

I'd go.

Debuchy - Gab - Kos - Gibbs

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Coq - Arteta

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Ox - Ozil - Sanchez

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Giroud

Alfred Borden

Good management by Wenger resting Ramsey. We have overplayed him in the past and burned him out so good to see a change of approach.

DeclanRe

I strongly dislike both Manchester teams, but when i saw the results last night i was pretty disappointed. We really need all the English teams to start performing in the champions league this season. Another couple of years of this nonsense and we'll lose a champions league spot.
English football with all its TV money - is quickly falling from grace!

greendom

DeclanRe wrote: »

I strongly dislike both Manchester teams, but when i saw the results last night i was pretty disappointed. We really need all the English teams to start performing in the champions league this season. Another couple of years of this nonsense and we'll lose a champions league spot.
English football with all its TV money - is quickly falling from grace!

Yes on the one hand it's great fun to see them lose, but then you see the wider implications and realise they need to be winning those games.

Does it also point to wider problems in the English game that the best teams in the league seem incapable of competing at a European level ?

wonga77

I know what your saying but I love seeing them beaten, especially City

CatInABox

greendom wrote: »

Yes on the one hand it's great fun to see them lose, but then you see the wider implications and realise they need to be winning those games.

Does it also point to wider problems in the English game that the best teams in the league seem incapable of competing at a European level ?

Yeah, at what point does the premier league lose the fourth Champions league place?

I also enjoy watching them lose, but what I really hate is seeing any player get injured like that. Hope Shaw comes back the same player.

L'prof

CatInABox wrote: »

Yeah, at what point does the premier league lose the fourth Champions league place?

I also enjoy watching them lose, but what I really hate is seeing any player get injured like that. Hope Shaw comes back the same player.

I think we're OK for now but if the Italian and German teams perform as well again this season and the English teams as poorly then we'll probably be down to 3 next year

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English clubs finished ahead of the Germans last year but start off behind then this year as the Germans have been better over the last 4 years. Also worth noting that performances in the Europa league count towards this coefficient.

Hyzepher

Because its a rolling calculation, next year will not include the 2011/12 season where England had a good year compared to Italy. Without that year and if Italy get good results this year then next year will be very interesting. By my calculation, without 2011/12 Italy are ahead

cathalio11

Marty McFly wrote: »

And we'll Chelsea are Chelsea current champions with some dangerous player they will findeed form soon and this will be the exact kind if game that could kick them into gear hopefully not I do love to see Mourinho squirm.

Posting under the influence or just rushed the post?

Drexel

Some interesting stats from the top 5 leagues in Europe

Most shots (per game)
Arsenal – 22.4
Bayern Munich – 21.3
Real Madrid – 21
Roma – 19.3
Napoli – 19.3

Most chances created (per game)
Mesut Ozil (Arsenal) – 5
Santi Cazorla (Arsenal) – 4.6
Fran Rico (Granada) – 4
Dusan Tadic (Southampton), Abdel Barrada (Marseille), Wahbi Khazri (Bordeaux) – 3.8

Most tackles (per game)
Augusto Fernandez (Celta Vigo) – 6.3
Mehdi Lacen (Getafe) – 5.7
Keko (Eibar) – 5.7
Jean –Daniel Akpa-Akpro (Toulouse) – 5.4
Marten de Roon (Atalanta), Miguel Lopes (Granada) – 5.3

Highest Premier League player: Francis Coquelin (Arsenal), Jordan Amavi (Aston Villa), Patrick van Aanholt (Sunderland), Ritchie de Laet (Leicester) – 4.4

We have the top 2 chance creating players in Europe in our team atm and we are taking the most shots in the whole of Europe. Just gotta start taking even a small % more of our chances and we will be flying.

Its been an ok start to the season but those numbers give me encouragement.

Maybe with a run of games up top wally can start converting. If he did we would be devastating

wonga77

What a team


https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/644097561163378688

L'prof

Hyzepher wrote: »

Because its a rolling calculation, next year will not include the 2011/12 season where England had a good year compared to Italy. Without that year and if Italy get good results this year then next year will be very interesting. By my calculation, without 2011/12 Italy are ahead

It actually includes 2011/12 as it's the sum of the coefficients for the previous 5 seasons. So that's a live table so to speak.

salmocab

wonga77 wrote: »

What a team


https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/644097561163378688

Christ thats a great team there. who from our current team would get into that team? possibly the full backs although I loved that back 4. Ozil and Alexis but for who? Petit and Viera were an amazing midfield. Obviously the change from standard 4 4 2 to 4 2 3 1 or whatever its classed as muddies the waters.

DenMan

Two years later Overmars and Petit went to Barcelona.

Quazzie

wonga77 wrote: »

What a team


https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/644097561163378688

Probably my favourite team of all time. Obviously had some week points, but as a team they were brilliant.

L'prof

Quazzie wrote: »

Probably my favourite team of all time. Obviously had some week points, but as a team they were brilliant.

Obviously! Only won the barely worth mentioning Charity Shield that year!

DeclanRe

L'prof wrote: »

I think we're OK for now but if the Italian and German teams perform as well again this season and the English teams as poorly then we'll probably be down to 3 next year

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English clubs finished ahead of the Germans last year but start off behind then this year as the Germans have been better over the last 4 years. Also worth noting that performances in the Europa league count towards this coefficient.

Be nice to see

PSV and United get through - No Wolfsburg
Juve and City - No Borussia Monchengladbach
Barcelona and Roma - No Bayer Leverkusen

You'd imagine if this happened and Us and Chelsea also got through, We'd close the gap on Germany

L'prof

DeclanRe wrote: »

Be nice to see

PSV and United get through - No Wolfsburg
Juve and City - No Borussia Monchengladbach
Barcelona and Roma - No Bayer Leverkusen

You'd imagine if this happened and Us and Chelsea also got through, We'd close the gap on Germany

Depends on how Dortmund, Shalke and Augsburg get on in the Europa League compared to Liverpool and Spurs. West Ham went out in the qualifiers.

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/644087465691758592?lang=en

A touch of class as always.

Well that's him ****ed so!

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

Well that's him ****ed so!

Hope they haven't employed any of our ex-medical team.

Gringo180

wonga77 wrote: »

What a team


https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/644097561163378688

Was that in France against Lens? I remember we kept conceding in the last minute in most of our group games that season. Tony Verailles got a last minute winner or equaliser for Lens iirc.

tayto lover

Team to face Dinamo Zagreb: Ospina, Debuchy, Gabriel, Koscielny, Gibbs, Chamberlain, Arteta, Cazorla, Sanchez, Ozil, Giroud.

Would have played Walcott tonight for the simple reason that he scored 3 goals for England the last time he played in that stadium. Horses for courses kind of thing. Anyway he needs a run at CF as Welbeck is out for a long time.

Alfred Borden

Big game for Arteta. Hopefully can prove he is able for 90 minutes and can provide adequate cover for rotation with Coquelin.

tayto lover

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Big game for Arteta. Hopefully can prove he is able for 90 minutes and can provide adequate cover for rotation with Coquelin.

Yes.
Lots of changes, six in all.
Some lads getting the chance to show their worth.
Hope they are up to it as it would be great to have good selection headaches.

Bobby Baccala

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Big game for Arteta. Hopefully can prove he is able for 90 minutes and can provide adequate cover for rotation with Coquelin.

Arteta is well able for 90 minutes imo, not sure when he ever showed he wasn't