Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

wawaman

Another 18 months of this s*it and pathetic excuses

efb

I'll let the #WO brigade have their night. I'm out.

Soups123

emmetlego wrote: »

Let the Wenger out crowd sing loud... This is your golden moment! ;-)

Posts like this are bull, Arsene deserves calling out tonight and you know it

Bad decisions time and time again

Skylinehead

That was utterly dire. Players need to buck up. Wenger put out a slightly weakened team, but that's no excuse not to win the game.

Looper007

The Honey Monster wrote: »

So yeah. Let's try and get a point off Chelsea at the weekend. Tbh if we lose I'll lose my ducking mind.

We need to win it, I don't want a draw after tonights result and the way we started a season if Everton, Palace and City can beat them we can. We need to put a stamp on the season.


Anyway tonight showed that this team ain't good enough, Zagreb were fine but we let them in that game. Wenger's defenders will be on defending him of course. But he's left us short once again. What was going on with Giroud I never understand, he can't start him on Saturday. Arteta hasn't the legs anymore and makes Wenger's decision of not buying a CDM, criminal. We miss Bellerin's pace and why did he rest Cech for, the others I understand but GK's ain't running around for 90 minutes. Walcott and Coq (he's so important to us now its crazy) both changed the game when they came on. But we are fighting for 2nd once again.

omega man

At the rate English teams are going lately there'll be no 4th place trophy on offer either!

Funny I'm not as angry as I'd normally be after such a fcuk up.

Ol' Donie

Hmm. Disappointing to lose. Didn't play well.

We'll probably be alright, though.

Now, far more important, get the heads right for Sat.

Soups123

Skylinehead wrote: »

That was utterly dire. Players need to buck up. Wenger put out a slightly weakened team, but that's no excuse not to win the game.

He's not strong enough to make changes and then convince players this was important

The indiscipline tonight reflects that they have no fear of Arsene

Quazzie

efb wrote: »

I'll let the #WO brigade have their night. I'm out.

Well there's a surprise.

Gringo180

Any fan calling for Wengers head is over reacting to a poor result. Players let him down tonight, only 1 or 2 at a push showed up.

symbolic

Didn't see the game, shame about the result. Busy night for button tho :P actually his stats must be through the roof tonight!

tayto lover

efb wrote: »

I'll let the #WO brigade have their night. I'm out.

The buck stops with the manager.
Too many displays like that under him.

Quazzie

Gringo180 wrote: »

Any fan calling for Wengers head is over reacting to a poor result. Players let him down tonight, only 1 or 2 at a push showed up.

I've been calling for his head for two years now. Tonight just further confirms that I believe about him.

keano_afc

emmetlego wrote: »

Let the Wenger out crowd sing loud... This is your golden moment! ;-)

What an utterly stupid post.

omega man

Gringo180 wrote: »

Any fan calling for Wengers head is over reacting to a poor result. Players let him down tonight, only 1 or 2 at a push showed up.

I'd never want his head after tonight alone. Sadly this isn't just about tonight though is it....

Soups123

Gringo180 wrote: »

Any fan calling for Wengers head is over reacting to a poor result. Players let him down tonight, only 1 or 2 at a push showed up.

It's not about tonight it's the same let down performance season after season a lot of us having been calling for his leaving 2 years or more now

Looper007

Gringo180 wrote: »

Any fan calling for Wengers head is over reacting to a poor result. Players let him down tonight, only 1 or 2 at a push showed up.

How many more times is that line going to be rolled out by his defenders on here. This is going back a few years now, how many damn times is his players going to let him down with these average results.

Looper007

tayto lover wrote: »

The buck stops with the manager.
Too many displays like that under him.

But it's not his faults it's the players that let him down :rolleyes:

Gringo180

Gringo180 wrote: »

We play Olympiakos next and Bayern in a double header. More than likey have 3 points from 4 games.

If we don't get a result against Bayern then qualifying will be out of our hands. Incredible really.


Lucky in a sense that the next match ain't at The Emirates because half an hour without a goal and I could see the fans getting more than a bit tetchy.

Soups123

Looper007 wrote: »

How many more times is that line going to be rolled out by his defenders on here. This is going back a few years now, how many damn times is his players going to let him down with these average results.

This is it, those complaining at those calling for his head always say it's the reaction to a poor result.

It's not a large proportion are calling for him to leave for a long time.

It's insanity time and time again......

Mr Blobby

Like most men we're useless without Coq.

efb

Bad day, now bad result. Bed. Work tomorrow. Urgh

Gringo180

Quazzie wrote: »

I've been calling for his head for two years now. Tonight just further confirms that I believe about him.

He is putting too much faith in half of that squad of players, especially our homegrown talent. Oxlade Chamberlain has to be one of our most over rated players ever, Walcott not good enough, Gibbs is a cluster ****. Add in Arteta, Flamini, Giroud who doesnt suit our style, Cazorla and Ramsey too inconsistent, Wilshere too injury prone. Ozil, Snachez, Kos, Cech, Rosicky and Gabriel are the only players in our squad who are genuine world class players.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

#wengerin

I'm happy finishing fourth every year.
Delighted we have such a big bank balance.
Pleased with how the players perform consistently every week.
Fantastic transfer window in the summer.
Really happy we only go so far every year in champions league.

Mediocrity.

omega man

Now the pressure is back on us for Chelsea. And we know how we react to big game pressure. Can't contemplate anything but a win. Over to you Arsene, again.

shano_88

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

Looper007

Soups123 wrote: »

This is it, those complaining at those calling for his head always say it's the reaction to a poor result.

It's not a large proportion are calling for him to leave for a long time.

It's insanity time and time again......

It's insanity that many are making excuses for these poor results time and time again. This isn't a one off, this will happen again and dozen times with this side. It happened last year, what makes you think it won't this year it's the same side. We already lost to two average teams in West Ham and Zagreb and drew with crappy Liverpool side. I'm fed up people are brushing it off and happy to accept these performances. I don't want us going into a CL every year fighting for 2nd and happy to go out in the last 16.

wawaman

Gringo180 wrote: »

He is putting too much faith in half of that squad of players, especially our homegrown talent. Oxlade Chamberlain has to be one of our most over rated players ever, Walcott not good enough, Gibbs is a cluster ****. Add in Arteta, Flamini, Giroud who doesnt suit our style, Cazorla and Ramsey too inconsistent, Wilshere too injury prone. Ozil, Snachez, Kos, Cech, Rosicky and Gabriel are the only players in our squad who are genuine world class players.

Sanchez and koscielny have been poor this season and rosicky has never been world class

Quazzie

shano_88 wrote: »

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

How is it knee jerk when a lot of us have been wanting him out for two years or more?

If it makes you feel better somehow to call it knee-jerk then work away, but it isn't

Gringo180

Gringo180 wrote: »

He is putting too much faith in half of that squad of players, especially our homegrown talent. Oxlade Chamberlain has to be one of our most over rated players ever, Walcott not good enough, Gibbs is a cluster ****. Add in Arteta, Flamini, Giroud who doesnt suit our style, Cazorla and Ramsey too inconsistent, Wilshere too injury prone. Ozil, Snachez, Kos, Cech, Rosicky and Gabriel are the only players in our squad who are genuine world class players.

In fairness, you're asking players who haven't been playing to come in and perform. None of these players did, and they won't get a chance to play into form the same way someone like Ramsey is allowed to.

Soups123

shano_88 wrote: »

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

Do you even read posts?

emmetlego

keano_afc wrote: »

What an utterly stupid post.

Yeah? Expand?

tayto lover

shano_88 wrote: »

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

Did you even watch that?
Did you read what Wenger said in his interview before the game?
Did you see any of the other rubbish performances under him where he was tactically destroyed?
He did make history tonight though. That team never beat an English team till Wenger came along.

Soups123

It's worrying that our top players have regressed so far this year Kos, Sanchez & Ozil. Something is not right in the dressing room.

Looper007

shano_88 wrote: »

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

It's this type that I'm frightened off happy to accept finishing 4th and getting beaten by average teams. But sure Wenger knows best doesn't he :rolleyes:

shano_88

Soups123 wrote: »

Do you even read posts?

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tayto lover wrote: »

Did you even watch that?
Did you read what Wenger said in his interview before the game?
Did you see any of the other rubbish performances under him where he was tactically destroyed?
He did make history tonight though. That team never beat an English team till Wenger came along.

Did you want Wenger gone 3 hours ago?

keano_afc

shano_88 wrote: »

Tayto et all calling for Wengers head is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Bad night but lol at that.

Yeah a bad night. AGAIN. This crap happens every. single. season.

Happy with playing for fourth? Happy with season after season of dross in the CL? Fine, stick with Wenger so. I'm not. His team's have been underperforming for years. The personnel has changed, but the performances have not. What does that tell you?

Soups123

shano_88 wrote: »

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Did you want Wenger gone 3 hours ago?

No 2 years ago and all the time since to be more exact

Pudders

I have been calling for his head for ages. Nothing changes.
We were told by Wenger and his fans there was no one out there to improve the squad or team. Is there really any debate about that after the start to the season?
And worse is the patronising posts on here from people claiming it is knee jer to want rid of Wenger. He appears too old and stubborn at this stage.

This result could not have come at a worse time. Chelsea must be laughing.

Pudders

Pudders wrote: »

I have been calling for his head for ages. Nothing changes.
We were told by Wenger and his fans there was no one out there to improve the squad or team. Is there really any debate about that after the start to the season?
And worse is the patronising posts on here from people claiming it is knee jer to want rid of Wenger. He appears too old and stubborn at this stage.

This result could not have come at a worse time. Chelsea must be laughing.

Don't know what bearing this has on Saturday.

Pudders

Basil3 wrote: »

Don't know what bearing this has on Saturday.

Confidence. We have none. We are mentally fragile.

Soups123

Pudders wrote: »

I have been calling for his head for ages. Nothing changes.
We were told by Wenger and his fans there was no one out there to improve the squad or team. Is there really any debate about that after the start to the season?
And worse is the patronising posts on here from people claiming it is knee jer to want rid of Wenger. He appears too old and stubborn at this stage.

This result could not have come at a worse time. Chelsea must be laughing.

100% arrogance in the transfer market, same on the pitch. Imagine a club this size saying there are no players world wide that would improve us!

We need a manager with balls to push the board and the club. This is our club not Arsene's he's used up his credit

tayto lover

shano_88 wrote: »

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Did you want Wenger gone 3 hours ago?

I always say I don't care who manages Arsenal as long as our team goes out properly prepared, disciplined, focused and prepared to die for the jersey. Can you honestly say that this has happened tonight?
The manager's job is to make sure the above happens.
We saw the same dross that we have seem umpteen times.
In fact it has happened all too often under Wenger. Anderlecht last season??
Monaco?? Even West Ham this season.

Soups123

Basil3 wrote: »

Don't know what bearing this has on Saturday.

Really you don't see how this knocks the confidence for Saturday? Really?

Pudders

Pudders wrote: »

Confidence. We have none. We are mentally fragile.

The players we brought in played like rubbish. Pretty sure Walcott is as confident as ever, as well as Bellerin, Cech, Ramsey and the Coq.

I'll be shocked if the team on Saturday is anything like what we saw tonight.

gosplan

So should we still be steamrolling Chelsea on Sat?

Soups123

Soups123 wrote: »

Really you don't see how this knocks the confidence for Saturday? Really?

Nobody who matters had their confidence knocked tonight.

tayto lover

Basil3 wrote: »

The players we brought in played like rubbish. Pretty sure Walcott is as confident as ever, as well as Bellerin, Cech, Ramsey and the Coq.

I'll be shocked if the team on Saturday is anything like what we saw tonight.

I would be worried as tactically Mourinho has always won the tactical battles in the EPL games against us.

Ol' Donie

This thread is a pain in the hole after a defeat.

Sometimes teams just don't play well, lads. It happens.

Lost one game - one f*ckin game - in a group stage we never, ever fail to get out of.

You'd swear we just lost ten on the bounce.

Get a grip.

Looper007

Pudders wrote: »

I have been calling for his head for ages. Nothing changes.
We were told by Wenger and his fans there was no one out there to improve the squad or team. Is there really any debate about that after the start to the season?
And worse is the patronising posts on here from people claiming it is knee jer to want rid of Wenger. He appears too old and stubborn at this stage.

This result could not have come at a worse time. Chelsea must be laughing.

He should have stepped down after the First FA Cup win.

Complete tosh from Wenger and his fans if they think we couldn't have bought two or three very good players in.

I think Chelsea will come back strong on Saturday. The wind will be knocked out of us cause of tonight's result. Chelsea will be up for answering the critics. I hope I'm wrong but I'm worried with every game what team we will get anytime we step onto the field.