Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2015

jonneymendoza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9nRWwfJZuw

Soups123

It really depends what Arsene wants from this cup.

If it has no priority sending out a full strenght team who know its 'more a friendly' will end in disaster.

Sending out a second string fighting for places may reap rewards.

Ken Shamrock

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Don't think anybody needs a rest this early into the season, but I agree a couple need dropping.

Hopefully we don't see debuchy and gibbs at full back on Wednesday.

As In the likes of Coq and Mert that could be carrying knocks, could do with a rest If they are not 100%

Bobby Baccala

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

As In the likes of Coq and Mert that could be carrying knocks, could do with a rest If they are not 100%

Yeah I agree in that sense

bangkok

United supporter here, but just a question for ye.

I see a lot are calling for retrospective action for Costa, but do you not think Paulista should not have been playing anyway? seen the Arsenal stoke game and he hit Marko Arnautovic with an elbow straight into the face? I was actually very surprised there was nothing done about it

greendom

bangkok wrote: »

United supporter here, but just a question for ye.

I see a lot are calling for retrospective action for Costa, but do you not think Paulista should not have been playing anyway? seen the Arsenal stoke game and he hit Marko Arnautovic with an elbow straight into the face? I was actually very surprised there was nothing done about it

I did think there may have been retrospective action taken

greendom

Adelaide out for 2 months. thought he might have played on Wednesday. This week just keeps getting better.

bangkok

greendom wrote: »

I did think there may have been retrospective action taken

yea I was very surprised but then again it wasn't on match of the day and sky sports didn't really report on it.

Have to say though, if that was a high profile player I think it would have been all over the papers and a 3 match ban would have been given

greendom

bangkok wrote: »

yea I was very surprised but then again it wasn't on match of the day and sky sports didn't really report on it.

Have to say though, if that was a high profile player I think it would have been all over the papers and a 3 match ban would have been given

I thought it was pretty much 50/50 just that Arnautovic made an awful lot more of it than Gabriel did. The Stoke player attacked first and then Gab retaliated. But knowing the FA I thought they would react. But maybe they just saw it like I did.

bangkok

"Arsenal defender Gabriel Paulista could face a three match ban for his elbow on Stoke City’s Marko Arnautovic on Saturday. Refree Jonathan Moss missed the Brazilian’s elbow on Arnautovic, thus failing to book the Arsenal defender. And according to former Premier League referee Mark Halsey, Gabriel should be purnished retrospectively by the FA..."

nothing more seemed to happen though

DeclanRe

bangkok wrote: »

yea I was very surprised but then again it wasn't on match of the day and sky sports didn't really report on it.

Have to say though, if that was a high profile player I think it would have been all over the papers and a 3 match ban would have been given

Costa is pretty high profile - so I guess we'll see what happens. I agree Gabriel was lucky to escape with that elbow in the Stoke game. But how Costa stayed on the pitch Saturday is beyond me. He's just such a horrible player, I understand winding people up etc, but lashing out at someone and then falling to the ground and rolling around like a child when he gets touched at all is just pathetic.

And Chelsea fans that say "He's a winner and gets the team results etc", are completely blindsided.
Drogba won countless games for Chelsea without any of that nonsense.

bangkok

DeclanRe wrote: »

Costa is pretty high profile - so I guess we'll see what happens. I agree Gabriel was lucky to escape with that elbow in the Stoke game. But how Costa stayed on the pitch Saturday is beyond me. He's just such a horrible player, I understand winding people up etc, but lashing out at someone and then falling to the ground and rolling around like a child when he gets touched at all is just pathetic.

And Chelsea fans that say "He's a winner and gets the team results etc", are completely blindsided.
Drogba won countless games for Chelsea without any of that nonsense.

yea he is the player we all love to hate, but would all still like him in our team....(I think)

Alfred Borden

Arsenal have the exact opposite in Giroud and Walcott who have to be up there as the softest strikers in the league, definitely Walcott anyways.

Giggsy11

Zouma, who opened the scoring in the second half, said: "No, we're not surprised because we know Diego. Everyone knows Diego and this guy likes to cheat a lot and put the opponent out of his game.

"That happened in the game but he's a really nice guy. We're proud to have him, like the other players, and we're happy to win this game today."

Not very sharp there Zouma.

DeclanRe

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Arsenal have the exact opposite in Giroud and Walcott who have to be up there as the softest strikers in the league, definitely Walcott anyways.

Would you rather have Costa in the team?

Skylinehead

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you rather have Costa in the team?

Absolutely. He's a prick, but he'd be our prick.

Alfred Borden

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you rather have Costa in the team?

Everyday of the week!

Nemeses2050

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you rather have Costa in the team?

I wouldn't he is a despicable coward, but would like Walcott/Giroud to man-up a bit especially Walcott.

Quazzie

I would actually hate Costa in our team. I don't mind a hard player, but an out and out cheat. No thanks.

bangkok

Nemeses2050 wrote: »

I wouldn't he is a despicable coward, but would like Walcott/Giroud to man-up a bit especially Walcott.

every team would love costa. Bergkamp was fond of a few elbows and stamps, he was yer club legend and ye won lots with him.

Alfred Borden

Quazzie wrote: »

I would actually hate Costa in our team. I don't mind a hard player, but an out and out cheat. No thanks.

He is better than what we have though and thats all that matters for me. If we had someone like Aguero, I wouldnt want him anywhere near this team but sadly we dont.

DeclanRe

bangkok wrote: »

every team would love costa. Bergkamp was fond of a few elbows and stamps, he was yer club legend and ye won lots with him.

Wow :pac: - now thats a bit of a stretch to be fair!!!
Bergkamp was fond of an elbow, but could also take an elbow too. And he didn't go out to intentionally get players sent of.
Costa is quickly becoming more well known for his antics on the field rather than his actual skill or actual football contribution

JustTheOne

No way I'd want him.

Has been pretty bad for a while now anyway.

Chelsea fans saying it jealousy on the other thread.

I remember feeling the same about Charlie Adam last season. Hmmm.

csallmighty

Im not fond of Walcott and Sanchez on at the same time, they gave the ball away too much(Being a may down didn't help either)

Id like to see Arteta and Ramsey at CM, Ox at RW and Giroud up top. Chambers will likely stay at CB. The team needs a shake up and hopefully the next game provides it.

keano_afc

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you rather have Costa in the team?

Our team could certainly do with a hardman, Costa is not a hardman though, he is a pathetic cheating manchild.

Roaster

Giroud for someone of his size is a pussy!

Walcott rightly getting called out for being soft too but I can understand him not throwing himself into tackles as he's made out of cotton wool.

Outside of Gabriel, Coq and Flamini, I can't think of anyone else in this squad who would stand up for his teammate.

They're all keyboard warriors and are great at talking the talk on twitter and facebook but when they step out onto the grass and they need to step up the majority of them go hiding.

Wenger is way too loyal to his players at this stage and if he doesn't change his ways (and I can't see him changing btw) I'm afraid we'll never win the PL or CL under him.

WoollyRedHat

Costa charged with violent conduct.

Hyzepher

Looks like Costa is being charged by the FA

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34319410

Pretty funny though. Costa charged, Gabriel charged....what's the bet they both get the same punishment? :rolleyes:

greendom

Much rather the ref had taken the correct action at the correct time but better than nothing I suppose.

L'prof

bangkok wrote: »

every team would love costa. Bergkamp was fond of a few elbows and stamps, he was yer club legend and ye won lots with him.

If Costa was as technically gifted I'd take him. Maybe he's just out of form, but he hasn't be very good for a long time now.

Skylinehead

Basil3 wrote: »

Pretty funny though. Costa charged, Gabriel charged....what's the bet they both get the same punishment? :rolleyes:

Is it normal for Gabriel to get charged even after a red card? Found that odd myself.

efb

Maybe they can ban Mike Dean too

greendom

Skylinehead wrote: »

Is it normal for Gabriel to get charged even after a red card? Found that odd myself.

Think he's been charged for not leaving the pitch as soon as he was dismissed

efb

Roaster wrote: »

Giroud for someone of his size is a pussy!

Walcott rightly getting called out for being soft too but I can understand him not throwing himself into tackles as he's made out of cotton wool.

Outside of Gabriel, Coq and Flamini, I can't think of anyone else in this squad who would stand up for his teammate.

They're all keyboard warriors and are great at talking the talk on twitter and facebook but when they step out onto the grass and they need to step up the majority of them go hiding.

Wenger is way too loyal to his players at this stage and if he doesn't change his ways (and I can't see him changing btw) I'm afraid we'll never win the PL or CL under him.

Giroud doesn't shirk from challenges. He uses his physicality a lot

greendom

efb wrote: »

Maybe they can ban Mike Dean too

Bringing the game into disrepute?

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

Is it normal for Gabriel to get charged even after a red card? Found that odd myself.

It's for how he acted after he got his card.

That's the problem with retrospective action, it will never be harsh enough. Instead of them being down to 10 men for a good chunk of the game, and a 3 match ban for Costa, we were down to 10 men, Gabriel will get a 3 match ban (can't see it being reduced), and possibly something on top of that.

Still better than nothing I guess, if Costa does get some kind of punishment.

Skylinehead

greendom wrote: »

Bringing the game into disrepute?

Being Mike Dean.

efb

Skylinehead wrote: »

Being Mike Dean.

Lifetime ban!

efb

Oh Rooster, he's already won the BPL, 3 times

Roaster

efb wrote: »

Oh Rooster, he's already won the BPL, 3 times

I was going to say again but he's never won the CL. I'm quite aware he's won the BPL before efb.

Roaster

efb wrote: »

Giroud doesn't shirk from challenges. He uses his physicality a lot

Doesn't do enough for me for a man of his size.

Ken Shamrock

L'prof wrote: »

If Costa was as technically gifted I'd take him. Maybe he's just out of form, but he hasn't be very good for a long time now.

Costa Is certainly no Bergkamp but he's only been poor this season, he had a good season last year much better than any of our strikers.

efb wrote: »

Giroud doesn't shirk from challenges. He uses his physicality a lot

Gas, Giroud jumps out of every 50/50 he's ever been in(hyperbole of course).

He even did the other day against Zagreb. Aerial duels he's fine In, but on the ground he never gets stuck In.

extra gravy

Dean will be reffing West Ham v Norwich next weekend so looks like he's got away scot free :rolleyes:

JustTheOne

Funny reading the Chelsea thread and the belief in some conspiracy against them.

Skylinehead

JustTheOne wrote: »

Funny reading the Chelsea thread and the belief in some conspiracy against them.

Was just going to say, it's hilarious :pac:

"But but this guy did this"

Two wrongs, right, etc.

efb

Roaster wrote: »

I was going to say again but he's never won the CL. I'm quite aware he's won the BPL before efb.

Your, statement as it read, was incorrect

efb

Maybe if Giroud was as ugly as Costa he'd go flailing into challenges

But I've never seen him shirk from one

/awaits YouTube montage

Ken Shamrock

efb wrote: »

Maybe if Giroud was as ugly as Costa he'd go flailing into challenges

But I've never seen him shirk from one

/awaits YouTube montage

Unbelievable, I'm not sure youtube do montages of strikers jumping out of tackles but just watch the Zagreb game again and you'll see him doing It.

Gringo180

JustTheOne wrote: »

Funny reading the Chelsea thread and the belief in some conspiracy against them.

Sums them right up.