Ascot Day 2

longshotvalue

looks like anything drawn low there had no chance.. (quickly checks draw for hunt cup selections)

TheMilkyPirate

tryfix wrote: »

If Joseph had given Sir Isaac Newton the ride that Ryan did there'd have been a page or two of abuse posted about it by now.

In fairness he was pulling the arms out of him for the first two furlongs and then was completely blocked off in the last furlong

madmoose

Seething with newton blocked off all over the place when tanking

gazza1

tryfix wrote: »

A shocking run from Ivawood, Hannon's team look to be out of form after a flying start to the season. Bit of a worry that Weld might be in the same category.

If Joseph had given Sir Isaac Newton the ride that Ryan did there'd have been a page or two of abuse posted about it by now.

Totally agree. Should have at least been placed. Yes he pulled hard early but there was so much left in the tank.
As for Hughes, hes been giving up for weeks now. Looks like his apetite has already gone

krustydoyle

Going with Cry Me A River ew in the next

tryfix

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

In fairness he was pulling the arms out of him for the first two furlongs and then was completely blocked off in the last furlong

True, but Joseph ( who I'll never forgive for making a complete balls of Australia's Irish Champion stakes ) would have received no such understanding if he'd been in the saddle today.

Ryan didn't exactly cover himself in glory, he looked like he didn't try to make a gap today.

Hard to know what to make of such a performance, the horse looked like he's a hard ride and needs more than 7f on pedigree anyway. Moral winner who'll improve or a monkey of a horse?

Andalucia

tryfix wrote: »

True, but Joseph ( who I'll never forgive for making a complete balls of Australia's Irish Champion stakes ) would have received no such understanding if he'd been in the saddle today.

Ryan didn't exactly cover himself in glory, he looked like he didn't try to make a gap today.

Hard to know what to make of such a performance, the horse looked like he's a hard ride and needs more than 7f on pedigree anyway. Moral winner who'll improve or a monkey of a horse?

I'd suggest monkey, that head carriage of his very off putting, keeps plenty for himself

Acapulco being backed off the boards, will she last it out? I prefer Cry ME A River as a closer, great run against the colts first time up

kalinisi

Will have to watch that Jersey again id say therell be a few winners out of it, thought Toscannini was gonig to win it at one stage for halford

jimjamcos

BOOM BOOM BOOM

No Nay Never Mark II

Andalucia

should have listened to Wesley, the size of that filly

mailburner

Holy **** impressive acapulco

kalinisi

That is one quick filly

brassringclub

The size of that filly. Easton Angel has won her race by a mile, so that is some performance by the winner, and her. Would have liked to see them race against each other.

kfallon

Halved in price since last night!
Think she was 14's this time last week :eek:

brassringclub

She was.

stick her in the nunthorpe, Wes

chipsdave

That was a joy to watch and had no bet !!

madmoose

madmoose wrote: »

Already on sir isaac newton 16/1 ew antepost same with that ward horse at 12/1 though in the queen mary antepost.

Yay

madmoose

kfallon wrote: »

Halved in price since last night!
Think she was 14's this time last week :eek:

My mate had a nice bet at 16/1 last week after reading wards comments

sword1

Backed cladocera ew in the next and free Eagle w in the 4.20, good luck

byronbay2

Going changed to: Good to Firm, Firm in places. "Like a road" according to Richard Hughes.

Mgoraf

Ah FFS

brassringclub

Euro Charline would have murdered that bunch. Wasnt given much chance, was she?

Jon Stark

I backed Amazing Maria on her two runs this season but not today, assumed there was something amiss at those odds. FFS.

Andalucia

Robert Ogden doing well for himself!

TheMilkyPirate

Free eagle getting smashed

jimjamcos

Time for the Eagle to fly!

Ginzo

H'on the eagle!

Johner

Best horse came second there.

TheMilkyPirate

Yesss

brassringclub

One of Spencers biggest critics here, but I dont think he is AS at fault as is going to be made out.

Gringo180

Get in. Not the best ride by Smullen there I thought, but what a classy classy animal.

Ginzo

Brilliant! Thought he'd lost it

Gregk961

Johner wrote: »

Best horse came second there.

Ya definitely. My pocket is certainly talking here but a combination of his temperament and an unlucky run beat the grey Gatsby there. Still nice to see another Irish trainer bag the feature race.

Fantastic race though, best of the meeting so far for me.

mailburner

I'd be putting my foot through the telly if I'd backed tgg

longshotvalue

Johner wrote: »

Best horse came second there.

That was unreal Gatsby is a good few pounds clear on that run.. I mean nothing wrong with it but that must have been frustrating for Spencer ( in fairness he had him handy all the way so not your usual coming too late display from him there)

jimjamcos

Johner wrote: »

Best horse came second there.

Wouldn't necessarily say that. That was Free Eagles first run in 9months so he's sure to come on a tonne.

Gringo180

Gatsby the best horse on the day no more. Free Eagles first run for 242 days and PJ pulled the trigger on him a bit too soon imo.

Johner

jimjamcos wrote: »

Wouldn't necessarily say that. That was Free Eagles first run in 9months so he's sure to come on a tonne.

Well on the day I think The Grey Gatsby was the better horse and would have won by a length or two if he'd have got out in time. No pocket talking from me as I was on Western Hymn, just think TGG was incredibly unlucky not to win that. Free Eagle should come on a load for that run, the rematch would be very interesting.

jimjamcos

jimjamcos wrote: »

Two picks for me:

3.05: Acapulco - know absolutely nothing about this animal but with Ward stating that she's the best workhorse he's ever on grass she's got to be worth a bet at 5/1 with Moore on board.

4.20: Wasn't planning on backing Free Eagle but struggling to see what beats him. Think The Grey Gatsby is vulnerable to a horse with a turn of foot, also unproven at Ascot, and while Ectot went off at 6/1 for last seasons Arc and has to be respected, he like FE is out for the first time, I think FE's course form in Champion Stakes on softer than ideal last season and Welds ability to get them fit fto makes him value at 3/1.

Singles & Double

Two picks, two winners and a 23/1 double, happy feckin days!

Now to follow Aidan's picks in the Hunt Cup.

longshotvalue

Gringo180 wrote: »

Gatsby the best horse on the day no more. Free Eagles first run for 242 days and PJ pulled the trigger on him a bit too soon imo.

Im not sure, on that ground i certainly favour tgg, only thing is there's a strong possibility it'll be difficult to get him to the track again.

rule supreme

Nice to see Weld win a group 1 , been a good while since his last one .

jimjamcos

Johner wrote: »

Well on the day I think The Grey Gatsby was the better horse and would have won by a length or two if he'd have got out in time. No pocket talking from me as I was on Western Hymn, just think TGG was incredibly unlucky not to win that. Free Eagle should come on a load for that run, the rematch would be very interesting.

You're dead right, TGG was the best animal today and should have won. Just wouldn't be quick to pick between them in a rematch given FE's scope for improvement.

Johner

jimjamcos wrote: »

You're dead right, TGG was the best animal today and should have won. Just wouldn't be quick to pick between them in a rematch given FE's scope for improvement.

True, remarkable performance for his 5th start.

nuckeythompson

Gringo180 wrote:

Get in. Not the best ride by Smullen there I thought, but what a classy classy animal.

Perfect ride, he was in the right place all through the race. A very tactical ride and it paid off

Gringo180

Johner wrote: »

True, remarkable performance for his 5th start.

That was a really messy race too which I don't think would of suited him, Smullen had to kick on a bit earlier than he would of liked on him and that's not ideal on a horse having his first run for 9 months.

Gringo180

nuckeythompson wrote: »

Perfect ride, he was in the right place all through the race. A very tactical ride and it paid off

I wouldn't say perfect. Only for a bit of luck he was getting nailed in the last 50 yards. He said it himself he went a bit earlier than he wanted. I'll let him away with it seen as he held on :pac:

shmeee

I'll go with Sulaalaat ew in the last @ 16/1. Steps up in trip. Hopefully be thereabouts come the line.

Rock Lesnar

mailburner wrote: »

I'd be putting my foot through the telly if I'd backed tgg

I backed it to win

Gabriel and Speculative Bid next for me

klairondavis

They didn't go a hectic gallop and Free Eagle would have probably liked more of a tow into the race. Pat had to kick when he did. Free Eagle will probably end up a 12 furlong horse so to win in such a steadily run 10 furling Group 1 after so long off the track is impressive. He's so lightly raced for a 4yo so there is surely a lot of improvement to come in him.

TheMilkyPirate

Have 3 in this, temptress American hope and have spark plug in a speculative double with free eagle. If that comes in I won't be going to work tonight