pregnant woman was attacked, purely to kill her baby

exgp

Terrible. No possible excuse for this.

Samaris

Cold War Kid wrote: »

I didn't see any obvious hushing up in relation to him? Sometimes the father just isn't in the picture.

It was the father that did it. Assuming you mean the partner of the woman/father of the unborn child.

obplayer

obplayer wrote: »

No.

What has a woman being kicked by thugs got to do with abortion? Putting you on ignore.

it's conorh that brought it up in fairness not him

Samaris

Samaris wrote: »

It was the father that did it. Assuming you mean the partner of the woman/father of the unborn child.

The womans ex(?)partner was arrested, but he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

Sand

bluewolf wrote: »

it's conorh that brought it up in fairness not him

Yup, the first couple of pages are bizarre with people jumping on the poster reacting to the introduction of the topic. Rather than to the introduction itself.

Samaris

Candie wrote: »

The womans ex(?)partner was arrested, but he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

True, my phrasing was rather poor there.

Sid_Lucious

Candie wrote: »

The womans ex(?)partner was arrested, but he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

i knew there was history there.
hopefully he will get a good stretch.

Nodin

AlekSmart wrote: »

An unborn infant literally kicked out of it's mothers womb by TWO adult males results in a poster quipping

All of those involved were Black,so their culture/race was already factually linked rather than requiring anybody to fabricate such a link.

How straight is your straight ?

How was/is their race/culture linked to the act, exactly? Because that's what you were asked. What element of "black" culture enters into this? 'They were black' is not an answer. The mask slipping, yes, but not an answer.

Aleksmart wrote:

For sure,however there was nothing in Elaine O Hara's murder that had been specifically linked to specifically "White" cultural factors.

.....because there wasn't. What is the "black" cultural factor supposedly at play here? You keep implying there is one, yet thus far haven't said what it is.

RDM_83 again

Nodin wrote: »

How was/is their race/culture linked to the act, exactly? Because that's what you were asked. What element of "black" culture enters into this? 'They were black' is not an answer. The mask slipping, yes, but not an answer.



.....because there wasn't. What is the "black" cultural factor supposedly at play here? You keep implying there is one, yet thus far haven't said what it is.

Why do these communities have so much higher rates of violent crime than other deprived groups like the Bangladeshis and pakistani's though.

keeponhurling

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Why do these communities have so much higher rates of violent crime than other deprived groups like the Bangladeshis and pakistani's though.

asking the hard questions....

Nodin

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Why do these communities have so much higher rates of violent crime than other deprived groups like the Bangladeshis and pakistani's though.

Who knows? That's another thread entirely.

They don't have a record for kicking pregnant women about the place in that manner though, which is point here.

RDM_83 again

Nodin wrote: »

Who knows? That's another thread entirely.

They don't have a record for kicking pregnant women about the place in that manner though, which is point here.

"They" have a disproportionate record of violence including violence against women.
Watched an African guy threaten to cut the throat of an afro- Caribbean woman in my local take away (in London) thankfully he never produced a weapon.
I don't know the WHY I do know that it does though.
And no I dont think Black British people are all criminals but your being willfully blind if you dont think there is issues within both communities.

Samaris

RDM_83 again wrote: »

"They" have a disproportionate record of violence including violence against women.
Watched an African guy threaten to cut the throat of an afro- Caribbean woman in my local take away (in London) thankfully he never produced a weapon.
I don't know the WHY I do know that it does though.
And no I dont think Black British people are all criminals but your being willfully blind if you dont think there is issues within both communities.

Yanno, all the incidences of violent behavior I have seen or been in the vicinity of in Ireland and the UK were from whites.

I see your anecdotal evidence and raise you my own :P

RDM_83 again

Samaris wrote: »

Yanno, all the incidences of violent behavior I have seen or been in the vicinity of in Ireland and the UK were from whites.

I see your anecdotal evidence and raise you my own :P

Look up the statistics that were released a couple of years ago about crime in London and get back to me, they say the same thing.
And ps I live in a majority East Asian area.

NotYourYear20

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Why do these communities have so much higher rates of violent crime than other deprived groups like the Bangladeshis and pakistani's though.

As a long time UK resident, I attribute it to a number of factors. Endemic racism with the Police, particularly the London Metropolitan police. Those of tanned or middle eastern complexion, don't seem to induce the same level of police brutality that a black man will. Deprivation, discrimination and a gross lack of opportunities in disadvantaged areas. Quite often, no matter what the academic efforts or the achievements of an applicant are, postcode & colour discrimination is rampant in some parts of London.

We just have to look at the Rotherham case where a gang of sick Pakistani paedophiles were grooming and sexually assaulting young white girls for years. All covered up and brushed over by the establishment. Now you can be sure if this was a gang of black men, the authorities would have been falling over themselves to act swiftly. We’d also probably have a lot more of the usual racist and hate filled bile from some sections of the media.

I would also take your check out crime statistics plea with a serious pinch of salt. Police Forces across the UK regularly misrepresent and manipulate their crime statistics. According to what suits them, their needs or their district policy.

Nodin

RDM_83 again wrote: »

"They" have a disproportionate record of violence including violence against women.
.............

Poverty and violence against women are strongly linked. Violence against women in this form, however, is not of the norm. It would seem to be motivated by some form of almost psychotic jealousy and spite, which is unfortunately not easily predicted by class, race or much else.

MathDebater

Candie wrote: »

Nobody talks about the possiblity of white culture being a factor when crimes like that awful murder in the mountains are committed.

A few days ago you claimed that there was no such thing as 'white culture'. Make up your mind.

MathDebater

Samaris wrote: »

Yanno, all the incidences of violent behavior I have seen or been in the vicinity of in Ireland and the UK were from whites.

I see your anecdotal evidence and raise you my own :P

White people commit most violent crimes in two white countries. What a shock. Those of African and Asian descent are both overrepresented in violent crime and attacks on women in the UK. Don't know about Ireland as such stats aren't made available.

Samaris

MathDebater wrote: »

White people commit most violent crimes in two white countries. What a shock. Those of African and Asian descent are both overrepresented in violent crime and attacks on women in the UK. Don't know about Ireland as such stats aren't made available.

I was being mildly slating of the use of anecdotal evidence rather than serious :P