rip off republic - is it back?

goldencrisp62

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

Anyone else had any recent rip offs?

Buona Fortuna

Did you leave a tip?

Phoebas

You should have refused to pay any more than what was displayed on the meter.

The Backwards Man

That's not a rip off. You were charged the metered fare as prescribed by the NTA. Unless you were kidnapped and forced at gunpoint to take the taxi you'll have to find something else to gurn about.

ScumLord

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

A bus is designed to be a cheap method of transport, your sharing the cost with dozens of other people. A Taxi is a private way of traveling and it's always, always going to cost considerably more. You have a choice, pay for privacy, or use the bus.

kirving

Taxi's in this country are expensive alright. It won't last long though, autonomous cars will decimate the taxi industry in the next 5 years.

Every major car company, along with Google and Apple are even working on this technology, so it's only a matter of time.

Ansum

I travelled for 1 hour from Dublin15 into town with a taxi service on June 3rd this year and they took a whopping 38 euros off me. I swore that I won't take a taxi or if that's not possible, use that taxi service again.

ScumLord

I got a taxi from Glasgow centre to Glasgow airport, it cost £25 which was the best deal I saw on any of the Taxis. 20 minute journey. So €38 for an hours journey isn't to bad.

Taxi fares are no more expensive than 10 years ago so to answer your question, no.

Buona Fortuna

Ansum wrote: »

I travelled for 1 hour from Dublin15 into town with a taxi service on June 3rd this year and they took a whopping 38 euros off me. I swore that I won't take a taxi or if that's not possible, use that taxi service again.

That's your choice but what sort of hourly rate do you think is reasonable for the driver?

€20?

Bearing in mind that he was probably off hire before picking you up and directly after?

€20 - €25 - Labour
Fuel
Maintenance to vehicle
Depreciation to vehicle

Doesn't strike me as a gravy train.

Phoebas

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Taxi's in this country are expensive alright. It won't last long though, autonomous cars will decimate the taxi industry in the next 5 years.

Every major car company, along with Google and Apple are even working on this technology, so it's only a matter of time.

It'll probably take longer than 5 years, but the writing is on the wall for taxi drivers.

Sheldons Brain

Phoebas wrote: »

It'll probably take longer than 5 years, but the writing is on the wall for taxi drivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCVDe2kV44

Lovely Jubley!

Del2005

Phoebas wrote: »

It'll probably take longer than 5 years, but the writing is on the wall for taxi drivers.

And most other public transport. Why get a bus or train which usually involves walking at either end when a car will bring you door to door, without having to deal with others.

arybvtcw0eolkf

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

While I won't disagree taxi's are expensive but the fare you paid is set and metered by the National Transport Authority.

I take it you came from Limerick (two hour journey to the Red Cow & the tenner fare), well without a doubt the green coach from Limerick is dirt cheap, but you'd pay the same taxi fare across the whole country.

Its unfair to call the taxi driver a thief.

Ronan|Raven

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

Anyone else had any recent rip offs?

go on the m50?

endacl

Could have got the luas into town and a bus/luas to leapordstown. Would have saved over 20 quid.

mvt

Told you you should have taken a bicycle:D

Not a rip off really it was nearly 18k.

Guessing it was a job interview or SP so maybe you will feel better about it latter

PARlance

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

Anyone else had any recent rip offs?

A 15 min trip booting along the M50.

If you channel your anger and disgust and funell it into research and some cop on in future, you'll be flying.

Spanish Eyes

Del2005 wrote: »

And most other public transport. Why get a bus or train which usually involves walking at either end when a car will bring you door to door, without having to deal with others.

Exept for the taxi driver. If s/he is a quiet one that is great, all I ever want, but if they are of the ranting/talking incessantly variety, no fare would compensate really.

Phoebas

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Exept for the taxi driver. If s/he is a quiet one that is great, all I ever want, but if they are of the ranting/talking incessantly variety, no fare would compensate really.

Driverless taxis won't have taxi drivers.

You say Rip Off Ireland is back, which seems to oddly suggest that it ever left in the first place.

But in this case, you weren't ripped off. You were charged with the usual amount. Your receipt, which you displayed, detailed as such.

Spanish Eyes

Phoebas wrote: »

Driverless taxis won't have taxi drivers.

Sure then I could take me own driverless car out if I have a few bevvies on board too surely. Sorted. No More Taxis. All good.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/driverless-cars-are-already-here/#.j4ki4h:9u0E

fleet_admiral

Did you mention the weather and ask the driver if he's been busy?

blackbird 49

Deleted User wrote: »

You say Rip Off Ireland is back, which seems to oddly suggest that it ever left in the first place.

But in this case, you weren't ripped off. You were charged with the usual amount. Your receipt, which you displayed, detailed as such.

First paragraph, I was thinking the same thing myself, As regards the other I don't know if it is a rip off as I don't live in Dublin.

kneemos

Phoebas wrote: »

Driverless taxis won't have taxi drivers.

Who'll own the driverless taxi,and how much will they want for a fare?

Spanish Eyes

kneemos wrote: »

Who'll own the driverless taxi,and how much will they want for a fare?

This is getting very interesting, for the future of taxis I mean.

I can't wait. And there will be no driver talk either. Bring it on please.

Not a NSA agent

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

This is getting very interesting, for the future of taxis I mean.

I can't wait. And there will be no driver talk either. Bring it on please.

I wouldnt be so sure

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXK5-w9by07-Npr8_8fnJfi3jdyXk3T9uJApsTET3gfPSM3AKRJ1wXqig

The Backwards Man

Phoebas wrote: »

Driverless taxis won't have taxi drivers.

They'll have taxi owners. Unless Google and Apple want to clean up the vomit and the pish and fix the puncture at 3am on a dark wet windy November morning in the middle of nowhere themselves. Taxi drivers ain't going nowhere.

the_monkey

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Taxi's in this country are expensive alright. It won't last long though, autonomous cars will decimate the taxi industry in the next 5 years.

Every major car company, along with Google and Apple are even working on this technology, so it's only a matter of time.

Will take a lot lot longer then 5 years, try 50 ...

Phoebas

The Backwards Man wrote: »

They'll have taxi owners. Unless Google and Apple want to clean up the vomit and the pish and fix the puncture at 3am on a dark wet windy November morning in the middle of nowhere themselves. Taxi drivers ain't going nowhere.

They'll all be promoted to vomit and piss cleaners! :eek:

When driverless taxis come in there will be no need for individual owners of the cars, so it probably will all be owned and operated by the likes of Google and Apple, with the work of cleaning and maintenance being outsourced.

Phoebas

the_monkey wrote: »

Will take a lot lot longer then 5 years, try 50 ...

The technology is pretty much there already, but it'll take a while before the legal / regulatory stuff is in place.
Probably a bit more than 5 years before we get it, but I doubt the huge corporations who have been investing billions into this will be willing to wait 50 years.

kneemos

Phoebas wrote: »

They'll all be promoted to vomit and piss cleaners! :eek:

When driverless taxis come in there will be no need for individual owners of the cars, so it probably will all be owned and operated by the likes of Google and Apple, with the work of cleaning and maintenance being outsourced.

Yeah right.
What becomes of the driverless taxi when your friendly punter decides to wreck it after a couple of Sherry's?

wtlltw

kneemos wrote: »

Yeah right.
What becomes of the driverless taxi when your friendly punter decides to wreck it after a couple of Sherry's?

Robocop will sort them out!!!

The Backwards Man

Phoebas wrote: »

They'll all be promoted to vomit and piss cleaners! :eek:

When driverless taxis come in there will be no need for individual owners of the cars, so it probably will all be owned and operated by the likes of Google and Apple, with the work of cleaning and maintenance being outsourced.

They already vomit and piss cleaners, personal shoppers, nannies, psychologists, mechanics, guardians of the road. The car might be driving itself, but it won't be in the employ of Google or Apple. It will either be in the hands of a current big player, who already outsource labour, a small firm or an individual. Same as ever it was. Middlemen come and go, doesn't matter how big they are.

Phoebas

kneemos wrote: »

Yeah right.
What becomes of the driverless taxi when your friendly punter decides to wreck it after a couple of Sherry's?

Probably the same that currently happens on the driverless trains that are already in service.

It'll probably be even more simple on driverless taxis. They can just drive themselves to a maintenance centre for cleaning, and since no driver pretty much necessitates no cash, the punter can simply be electronically charged for the cleaning fee.

I'm not an expert, but this probably won't be the most difficult hurdle to overcome.

Bayberry

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goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

Pretty disgusted I must say. I travelled on a 2 hour bus that cost me a tenner this morning to the red cow before having my pockets emptied by the thieves with the taxi plates.

17.5km at 7:18am according to your receipt.

Taxis don't get to set their own fares - the fares are set by the National Transport Authority https://www.nationaltransport.ie/taxi-and-bus-licensing/taxi/operating-an-spsv/taxi-fares/

It was before 8AM, so the Premium rate applies, and it's €24.40 for the first 15KM, and 3x€1.75 for the remainder, which brings it up to to €29.65.

You're right - you were ripped off for 15c!

Mr_Muffin

The sooner driverless cars come the better. Taxis are a necessity at times but also a total rip off.

Enjoy Heroin Responsibly

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

rip off republic - is it back? ?

Back ? I wasn't aware it had gone

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Taxi's in this country are expensive alright. It won't last long though, autonomous cars will decimate the taxi industry in the next 5 years.

Every major car company, along with Google and Apple are even working on this technology, so it's only a matter of time.

Ive heard all sorts of rosy projections how this is going to replace not just taxi's but private car ownership in general

Im a tad sceptical I mean what's to stop people leaving the inside of the vehicle in an absolute state ?

Simon2015

Taxis are right rip off.

A few years ago I got a taxi from liffey valley shopping centre to dun laoghaire that cost me 40 euro.

TomBtheGoat

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

rip off republic - is it back?

Recessions come and recessions go, but the rip off Republic will always be with us.

OldMrBrennan83

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kirving

the_monkey wrote: »

Will take a lot lot longer then 5 years, try 50 ...

You can buy a car today(Mercedesc, BMW, Lexis, etc) in Ireland that will follow the car in front via radar, automatically stay in lane, park itself, read road signs, obey speed limits, automatically accelerate and brake in traffic, and a whole lot more. Tesla are due to release a software update in October which will give full autonomous driving. Far closer than most people think.

dubscottie

Kevin Irving wrote: »

You can buy a car today(Mercedesc, BMW, Lexis, etc) in Ireland that will follow the car in front via radar, automatically stay in lane, park itself, read road signs, obey speed limits, automatically accelerate and brake in traffic, and a whole lot more. Tesla are due to release a software update in October which will give full autonomous driving. Far closer than most people think.

We have aircraft that can fly themselves but you would still want a pilot up front right?

Most of the above in cars is "assist".. Ie it only helps the driver.

Does not do 100% of the job for the driver.

dubscottie

€30 for the OP's trip sounds cheap..

Costs me €10 from Rathgar to the Aviva stadium when the 18 bus fails to show..

kirving

dubscottie wrote: »

We have aircraft that can fly themselves but you would still want a pilot up front right?

Most of the above in cars is "assist".. Ie it only helps the driver.

Does not do 100% of the job for the driver.

'Assist' is really down to the legal classification of such features. The car manufacturers don't want to be legally responsible for auto-braking and pedestrian detection just yet, but the technology is perfectly capable of driving the car safely.

Hermy

If rip off Ireland is back it's because Irish people welcomed it back with open arms.

Public_Enema

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

rip off republic - is it back?

Did it ever leave?

Bayberry

That's an interesting idea for an App - a Taxi meter app that you would start when you got into the taxi, and it would use the phone GPS to calculate the distance travelled, and the NTA Rules to calculate the fare. You could use it before you even got in the taxi to estimate how much to expect to pay.

I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already done that.

Buona Fortuna

I'm sceptical.

Relatives of mine were in Dingle when the dustbin lorry had a brake failure. Thankfully no one was hurt then - but in the event of some unforeseen malfunction who do we programme the computer to colide with?

~ the party of schoolkids
~ the young mother pushing a pram
~ the ambulance coming the other way
~ the OAP just minding their own business

PizzamanIRL

I bet you gave €30 and waited for the 20c change

rubadub

goldencrisp62 wrote: »

Rip off Republic back in full swing lads. A 15 minute taxi this morning cost me 30 euro. From red cow Luas to bewley's leopards town.

It was a 17.5km trip, why did you list the time instead of this? the time should be secondary. Would you have felt it was better value if he slowed down and took 45mins?

You were paying to get from A to B, for most people they want it in as fast a time as possible. I wonder did people moan about concorde when it was going, I got to new york in half the usual time but they charged even more.

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

go on the m50?

Taxi drivers also try and use the M50 when I want to go to the airport, it actually usually would take longer too. But looking at his trip I cannot see an obviously much shorter route.

https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Clayton+Hotel+Leopardstown+(formerly+Bewleys+Hotel+Leopardstown),+Central+Park,+Dublin+18/Red+Cow+LUAS/@53.3056263,-6.3611253,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x486709a83467dffb:0x35558b651993c141!2m2!1d-6.206105!2d53.271437!1m5!1m1!1s0x48670cad3f079a8b:0x55467182dd2042ed!2m2!1d-6.372601!2d53.31638