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''Dispute between rival biker gangs sees man fatally shot in head''

  • 21-06-2015 4:55pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭


    What have I just read?


    Article from the Irish Independent :

    ''A 51-year-old man was "blasted in the face" in a drive-by gun attack in Murroe, Co Limerick yesterday in what Gardai called a dispute between two rival biker gangs.''

    ''A car pulled up outside the club house, located at Mountfune, Murroe, and a gunman -- whom Gardai believe is a member of a rival biker gang -- who was armed with a shotgun, fired at the victim hitting him in the face.''


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    What have I just read?

    See answer in the second line of your post:
    Article from the Irish Independent :

    You're welcome.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    This taytos vs kings thing has to stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    What part are you having difficulties with OP?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    If ya get shot in the cheann it tends to be fatal id say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    biko wrote: »
    What part are you having difficulties with OP?

    It's horrendous! I never thought there was that much rivalry between biker clubs here in Ireland?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    It's horrendous! I never thought there was that much rivalry between biker clubs here in Ireland?

    You should see the squash clubs go toe to toe. It's a melee of rackets, brightly coloured vests and sweatbands that would sicken the most twisted mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    You should see the squash clubs go toe to toe. It's a melee of rackets, brightly coloured vests and sweatbands that would sicken the most twisted mind.

    What's the problem Sheep Lover?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    biko wrote: »
    What part are you having difficulties with OP?

    Pretty unusual event for Ireland, no? I assume that's what OP means.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Squash clubs are bad bastards alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    We have biker gangs?! I thought it was just like lads who like cruising at the weekends, they're hardly up to anything major now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Probably dickheads watching too much Sons of Anarchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    Motorcycle club according to Rte news. Bit different to a biker gang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Probably dickheads watching too much Sons of Anarchy.

    I wonder if they put on really really really bad Irish accents too, just to keep true to the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Probably between members of the same club. Suits everyone just to say another group.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    A man who likes motorbikes was murdered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Probably dickheads watching too much Sons of Anarchy.
    Motorcycle clubs have been around a lot longer than sons of anarchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Reiver wrote: »
    We have biker gangs?! I thought it was just like lads who like cruising at the weekends, they're hardly up to anything major now.

    All those Honda 50s clogging up the roads!

    More importantly, who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??


  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Reiver


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    More importantly, who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??

    Something odd alright about a bunch a lads sitting in some building alone together. You do wonder what they be doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    All those Honda 50s clogging up the roads!

    More importantly, who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??

    Are ya sure you're not thinking of treehouse...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    Motorcycle clubs have been around a lot longer than sons of anarchy.

    Obviously.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭as_mo_bhosca


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    All those Honda 50s clogging up the roads!

    More importantly, who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??

    Any rugby club, football club, etc. There's quite a long list really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Motorcycle club according to Rte news. Bit different to a biker gang.

    No such thing as having seen too much Sons of Anarchy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    All those Honda 50s clogging up the roads!

    More importantly, who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??

    I'd imagine most football and GAA clubs have "clubhouses"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Reiver wrote: »
    Something odd alright about a bunch a lads sitting in some building alone together. You do wonder what they be doing.

    Polishing their helmets?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Lived nearby for years. Was unaware of the bike club. Hardly a public menace so.

    Club, not gang. Typical indo misleading sensationalism.

    Definition of the word gang is 'an organized group of criminals'. They're not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I'd imagine most football and GAA clubs have "clubhouses"

    Dressing rooms and possibly a bar/function room.

    What exactly would a gang of motorcyclists in fancy dress have in theirs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Used to go out with a girl many moons ago who was in the Devil's Disciplines. Before I went out with her had often tried to strike up a conversation with a couple of them but they weren't they are not the easiest folk to talk to unless they feel they can trust you. I have never known loyalty mean as much to anyone I have met before as much as it meant to them. One night while out of my nut I remember ending up in some warehouse they owned that had been kitted out to look like a pub and had I not seen the corrugated iron on the outside, I'd have sworn I was in a legitimate one.

    Nothing to do with the story really but I've had a lot of caffeine today and can't stop talking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Was actually in a hells angels clubhouse before as a guest, has a small bar and pool and kitchen and lots of couches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Theres something fascinating about the whole 1% clubs & culture


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    who over the age of 12 has a "clubhouse"??

    When I lived in Dortmund Germany there was a biker clubs " Bandidos MC Dortmund & Hells Angels "

    How I would love to sitting on a wall while you ask these people that question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Massimo Cassagrande


    There's actually a fairly large and thriving Biker gang scene in Ireland. Some of them are also hardy feckers and have a tendency to be quietly bold.

    I always wondered do they tax and insure their bikes? I just have a mental image of a big biker in his colours standing in the queue at the tax office and going "Yeah, I wan't three months, thanks.." It's the only bit (apart from having to do all the lessons to get a full bike licence) I have trouble picturing...."Outlaw rebel taxes bike..."

    I know a couple, somehow never fancied asking the question, they're not exactly chatty....interesting tho - I think all "rebels" kinda are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Dressing rooms and possibly a bar/function room.

    What exactly would a gang of motorcyclists in fancy dress have in theirs?

    Bike workshop and possibly a bar/function room, I imagine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    There's actually a fairly large and thriving Biker gang scene in Ireland. Some of them are also hardy feckers and have a tendency to be quietly bold.

    I always wondered do they tax and insure their bikes? I just have a mental image of a big biker in his colours standing in the queue at the tax office and going "Yeah, I wan't three months, thanks.." It's the only bit (apart from having to do all the lessons to get a full bike licence) I have trouble picturing...."Outlaw rebel taxes bike..."

    I know a couple, somehow never fancied asking the question, they're not exactly chatty....interesting tho - I think all "rebels" kinda are.

    You can only tax a bike for the full year... Not that it's particularly relevant to your post... Just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Pedro K wrote: »
    You can only tax a bike for the full year... Not that it's particularly relevant to your post... Just saying.

    Thank **** we got that cleared up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    Thank **** we got that cleared up.

    The more you know...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Buzz Meeks


    Can you claim some of that tax back if before the end of the year you sell the bike or you get shot


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    Buzz Meeks wrote: »
    Can you claim some of that tax back if before the end of the year you sell the bike or you get shot

    Not yet, but we're pushing to have the shooting rebate introduced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    The Road Tramps have been around forever. They mind their own business and don't bother anyone, including the Gardaí. Yes, they tax and insure their bikes. Even when they were a little naughty back in the day they weren't at anything Federal. This whole business is most irregular, to put it mildly. I have no idea what's going on, and probably never will exactly. RIP Odd. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    jimgoose wrote: »
    The Road Tramps have been around forever. They mind their own business and don't bother anyone, including the Gardaí. Yes, they tax and insure their bikes. Even when they were a little naughty back in the day they weren't at anything Federal. This whole business is most irregular, to put it mildly. I have no idea what's going on, and probably never will exactly. RIP Odd. :(

    I couldn't believe the story when I heard it first, don't think this was the right place to post this thread as all it seems to be attracting is witty & sneary comments.

    Condolences to the family and The Road Tramps MCC...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...don't think this was the right place to post this thread...

    No, I don't think so either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    ...Condolences to the family and...

    They're an MC outfit, not MCC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    jimgoose wrote: »
    They're an MC outfit, not MCC.

    What's the difference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    What's the difference?

    I'm not hugely au fait, but I believe it could be likened to the old joke about the respective involvements of a chicken and a pig in a breakfast of eggs-and-bacon. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    jimgoose wrote: »
    I'm not hugely au fait, but I believe it could be likened to the old joke about the respective involvements of a chicken and a pig in a breakfast of eggs-and-bacon. ;)

    Ah I getcha now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    I seem to remember when in college in Limerick many moons ago, there was a bust up between bikers.
    I think it happened one night in that bar in Foxes Bow and they ended up outside one of the other guys houses out in Rhebogue, Dublin Road.
    They tried to petrol bomb his house so he blew one of them off a bike with a shotgun.

    Maybe someone has better memory of this and can fill in the gaps.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Mightydrumming


    jmayo wrote: »
    I seem to remember when in college in Limerick many moons ago, there was a bust up between bikers.
    I think it happened one night in that bar in Foxes Bow and they ended up outside one of the other guys houses out in Rhebogue, Dublin Road.
    They tried to petrol bomb his house so he blew one of them off a bike with a shotgun.

    Maybe someone has better memory of this and can fill in the gaps.

    Holy s*te, you sure it wasn't a dream? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Thought the only lads with motorbikes now were Eastern European fellas who don't know what speed limits are and fellas with a mid life crisis who purchase a Harley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Thought the only lads with motorbikes now were Eastern European fellas who don't know what speed limits are and fellas with a mid life crisis who purchase a Harley.

    Some of us are a strange hybrid of permanent mid-life crisis and Eastern European-who-doesn't-know-what-speed-limits-are. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Sometimes the moderation in AH confuses me. Someone puts up an article about someone (who's not in a bike club) being killed by a shotgun blast to the head, and the mods have warnings and issue infractions. Yet when someone posts about a biker getting blasted in the head with a shotgun, it's ok for posters to crack jokes. Hmmm...
    It's horrendous! I never thought there was that much rivalry between biker clubs here in Ireland?
    What's the difference?

    There's been clubs in Ireland for decades. You have the MC's and MCC's.

    MCC's (Motor Cycle Club) can be set up by anyone, or a group of friends who are into biking. 99% of the time, it's a group of like minded people, with a huge interest in bikes and drinking. There are hundreds of MCC's in Ireland, and they wear their patches on the front. No back patch. Again, 99% of the time, MCC's are law abiding people who just like the rally scene and enjoy getting together with other MCC's and having the craic. Some of the MCC's yearly rallies attract huge crowds, and it's a day/evening/weekend of drinking, music and craic.

    MC's (Motorcycle Club) on the other hand are more serious. To get into an MC, you have to be invited, and it really is like on Sons of Anarchy. You have to be willing to give up everything to pander to the presidents requests. If you're at work, and the pres tells you to go get him a 6-pack, you drop everything and get it. Usually (in America and most of mainland Europe), these clubs are involved in some sort of criminality, mostly to do with guns or drugs. They can be very dangerous. They wear their patches on their backs. Unless you're in an MC, you can be attacked for wearing your clubs patch on your back. It's an unwritten rule, and one no one should break.

    In Ireland, the Mc's are the Vikings MC, Road Tramps MC, Freewheelers MC and Devils Disciples MC. They are a quiet bunch of lads, rarely if ever getting into bother or coming to public attention. It's not like European or American MC's. The difference between Ireland and the rest of the world is that the Irish MC's are banding together, calling themselves the 1%'ers, and are actively stopping foreign MC's from getting a foothold in Ireland. They intend on stopping the Hells Angels MC getting in here, which is a good thing.

    As for this shooting, the Road Tramps are relatively quiet. They usually don't bother anyone, show up to a few rallies, don't cause hassle. However, the surfacing problem in Ireland is that there is a new club. They consist of the rejects from MC's and MCC's who are too nuts to not cause trouble. As such, they are doing a lot of ground work for a foreign MC to get in here. I know the name of the club, but i'm not posting it here because it's not in the news yet. Sufficed to say, they're a dangerous bunch of people, and stone mad on top of it.

    RIP to Mr. O'Donoghue, and my thought are with his family, friends and the Road Tramps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Special Circumstances


    Good post thanks for the info.
    Sometimes the moderation in AH confuses me. Someone puts up an article about someone (who's not in a bike club) being killed by a shotgun blast to the head, and the mods have warnings and issue infractions. Yet when someone posts about a biker getting blasted in the head with a shotgun, it's ok for posters to crack jokes.
    Agree 100%. I saw a thread shut down a few pages back because of the potential of upsetting people on some of the more unusual forums on here. Of course if you post something that doesn't align with certain agendas or lobby groups your opinions will be cleansed at the very least.


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