2015 Leinster Senior Hurling Final: Galway v. Kilkenny ; Croke Park; 5th July @16:00

letowski

Larkin is having a good game for KK. He is winning alot of stuff.

nice_guy80

The more I watch Galway the more I realise how poorly coached they are

Utopia Parkway

Tannian has cost Galway about 0-4 today just from loose passes and getting turned over in possession.

wp_rathead

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

possibaly the most Jekyll and hyde player i have ever seen , he dose'nt do average very much

i would imagine kilkenny by there own standards wont be overly delighted with this performance win/lose or draw going forward in the championship

Ya he tends to be our MotM or a total liability

corny

Richie Hogan dropping back is a master stroke. He's sweeping up everything.

Mantis Toboggan

Unbelievable the amount of times Galway get blocked or hooked and it's the same every year year. Surely something they could rectify!

windy shepard henderson

the galway short to medium passing is also playing into kilkennys hands , there exactly fluent in the whole thing , plus giving the height of there inside forwards they should be dropping it in a little bit more

Utopia Parkway

Galway got back level but could never sneak in front.

basillarkin

Poor form as commentators when Marty and OGrady don't know who number 22 from galway is

The White Feather

Ref seems to be really helping Kilkenny along

Mountainlad

corny wrote: »

Richie Hogan dropping back is a master stroke. He's sweeping up everything.

It's not new though. Hard one to combat but he's doing this since last year so shouldn't be a surprise. You'd have thought there'd be some plan of action.

wp_rathead

The White Feather wrote: »

Ref seems to be really helping Kilkenny along

They do not need help
Kk are just better than us

nice_guy80

Galway haven't hit one cross field ball today or created any space for their forwards to get one on one

Everything is straight down the field

Plus, every sideline has to be hit long from Galway. Not one short sideline worked to retain possession

basillarkin

If WW could score he would be a great player. His striking is very poor for inter county level

zetecescort

Galways touch has been very poor at times.

BQQ

Magic from Larkin

The White Feather

wp_rathead wrote: »

They do not need help
Kk are just better than us

Thats what I meant. KK are better but they were helped along here and there

Roquentin

kilkenny players on a different level. glynn, harte, glennon useless. tipp are the only team that can stop kilkenny

windy shepard henderson

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Galway haven't hit one cross field ball today or created any space for their forwards to get one on one

Everything is straight down the field

Plus, every sideline has to be hit long from Galway. Not one short sideline worked to retain possession

the same against dublin the first day 3 maybe 4 crossfield passes into the full forward line all resulted in scores and just reverted back to shooting hopefull long balls down the field afterwards

Mountainlad

FairPlay Kilkenny. Too good through out, never looked like losing. Going to be very hard to beat once again this year.

Very Bored

Serious performance by Kilkenny, work rate was top notch. Eoin Larkin and Richie Hogan contributed greatly, so did Padraig Walsh. I would be a bit concerned about the number of wides the team hit, Walter Walsh in particular. Was a very enjoyable match and Galway put up good opposition but just didn't have enough in the end though its still evident that the rest of their forward line isn't up to the same level as Joe.

Mountainlad

Cyril Donnellan contributed more than Canning today I thought.

Very Bored

The White Feather wrote: »

Ref seems to be really helping Kilkenny along

That's a silly statement after Padraig Mannion got a yellow for a straight red offence. The difference was in the quality of the two teams, not in the referee's performance.

Mantis Toboggan

How many points did Galway score from play?

Utopia Parkway

Roquentin wrote: »

kilkenny players on a different level. glynn, harte, glennon useless. tipp are the only team that can stop kilkenny

Thought Glynn did alright. Won a lot of ball. The other two alright were pretty anonymous.

STIG83

Jaysus no excitement for winning a trophy by Kk, if it Galway or another team that win a trophy they be great excitement.
Next weekend if Tipp or Waterford win Munster they be more excitement than the wake earlier

Roquentin

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Thought Glynn did alright. Won a lot of ball. The other two alright were pretty anonymous.

doesnt have the hurling. mannion got devoured by the kilkenny backs. david burke too was not good. galway dont have the hurlers simple as. and they wont win anything for the foreseeable future.

it was so simple for kilkenny to win primary possession and to score. the only other team that can do it as good as them is tipp.

Very Bored

STIG83 wrote: »

Jaysus no excitement for winning a trophy by Kk, if it Galway or another team that win a trophy they be great excitement.
Next weekend if Tipp or Waterford win Munster they be more excitement than the wake earlier

None of those teams have dominated their province like Kilkenny have in recent years so the excitement, or lack of, is natural.

Roquentin

winning leinster means nothing to kilkenny.

fed up sick and tired

Bambi wrote: »

Pulls a galway player up for dubious steps but ignores kilkenny lads milling around in the tackle with the ball glued to their hand.

Another cody-certified "let it flow (but only for one team)" ref

Yet post 19 tells us that KK were being penalised for infringement.

And the Cody-certified ref gave a yellow card to a GY player for an offence that is a straight red.

What can it mean ?

STIG83

Roquentin wrote: »

winning leinster means nothing to kilkenny.

Scrap it then if that's the attitude.
Munster championship is way better, means a lot to teams too.

No harm to try an open championship maybe?

Roquentin

STIG83 wrote: »

Scrap it then if that's the attitude.
Munster championship is way better, means a lot to teams too.

No harm to try an open championship maybe?

the whole thing is a farce tbh. kilkenny to win the top prize in hurling only play three serious games (leinster final, SF and Final). when they were dominating a few years ago they only played two games. it was a joke. i wouldnt rate what cody has done at all. its tailor made for them to succeed in.

its very easy to psyche yourself up for two games. it would be a lot harder if you had to play 30 games over a season, to psyche yourself up for each game.

Now the negative is that if they were to make a league out of it, the games would lose their intensity. But if a team really wants to win on merit they have to A) play more games ( at least ten in my books) and each team must play the same number of games)

a team from munster to win the all ireland may have to play five hard games, whereas kilkenny would only have to play two. the system is a joke and set up for them to succeed and it is so easy for kilkenny to dominate because they only play 2/3 matches. if this were a competition wherein you play 10 games each, they wouldnt dominate because psychological wise they wouldnt be able to psyche themselves up for each game.

fed up sick and tired

Roquentin wrote: »

the whole thing is a farce tbh. kilkenny to win the top prize in hurling only play three serious games (leinster final, SF and Final). when they were dominating a few years ago they only played two games. it was a joke. i wouldnt rate what cody has done at all. its tailor made for them to succeed in.

its very easy to psyche yourself up for two games. it would be a lot harder if you had to play 30 games over a season, to psyche yourself up for each game.

Now the negative is that if they were to make a league out of it, the games would lose their intensity. But if a team really wants to win on merit they have to A) play more games ( at least ten in my books) and each team must play the same number of games)

a team from munster to win the all ireland may have to play five hard games, whereas kilkenny would only have to play two. the system is a joke and set up for them to succeed and it is so easy for kilkenny to dominate because they only play 2/3 matches. if this were a competition wherein you play 10 games each, they wouldnt dominate because psychological wise they wouldnt be able to psyche themselves up for each game.

Making a fool of yourself.

Roquentin

fed up sick and tired wrote: »

Making a fool of yourself.

you are talking to a computer screen

fed up sick and tired

Roquentin wrote: »

you are talking to a computer screen

Yeah, yours.

Roquentin

fed up sick and tired wrote: »

Yeah, yours.

am i a man or a woman?

wfdrun

Well done Kilkenny

savannahkat

Roquentin wrote: »

am i a man or a woman?

either way you are fair sour

WallyGUFC

Brian Cody is the greatest manager in the history of the GAA. It's not his problem if Kilkenny have it easy. It's up to teams like Galway and Dublin to get up to Kilkenny's level, which we did in 2012. But it's the same old Galway problem of lacking consistency in performance and probably not great management.

Mountainlad

Roquentin wrote: »

the whole thing is a farce tbh. kilkenny to win the top prize in hurling only play three serious games (leinster final, SF and Final). when they were dominating a few years ago they only played two games. it was a joke. i wouldnt rate what cody has done at all. its tailor made for them to succeed in.

its very easy to psyche yourself up for two games. it would be a lot harder if you had to play 30 games over a season, to psyche yourself up for each game.

Now the negative is that if they were to make a league out of it, the games would lose their intensity. But if a team really wants to win on merit they have to A) play more games ( at least ten in my books) and each team must play the same number of games)

a team from munster to win the all ireland may have to play five hard games, whereas kilkenny would only have to play two. the system is a joke and set up for them to succeed and it is so easy for kilkenny to dominate because they only play 2/3 matches. if this were a competition wherein you play 10 games each, they wouldnt dominate because psychological wise they wouldnt be able to psyche themselves up for each game.

That line about not rating what Cody has done is the most stupid thing I've read in 6 years posting on this forum.

Roquentin

to win the premier league you have to play 38. this is a good indication of how good a team is because there are a lot of games to psyche yourself up for. and psychology is very important in how teams play. now the less the amount of games you play the easier it is to psyche yourself up.

second of all, each team plays the same number of games. so there are no idiosyncrasies.

with the hurling, kilkenny have three tough games. someone in munster will have maybe five. its out of sync. added to the fact that there isnt even enough games to see how good a team really is.

the system is stupid. kilkenny produce the best hurlers in the country no question. but they are not properly tested as a team because they play few games. if you really want to test how good a team is brian clough used say, you test them over the course of 38 games. anybody can play good one or two matches because they psyche themselves up for it. can they psyche themselves up for 20 odd matches.

now 38 games would seem a bit high. i think something like the champions league (13 games for the winner) would be better. that would really test their mettle.

i enjoy the hurling more to watch than the football, but the team that wins the football has a greater achievement. they have to play more tough games

Roquentin

Mountainlad wrote: »

That line about not rating what Cody has done is the most stupid thing I've read in 6 years posting on this forum.

you havent read much then

windy shepard henderson

yes kilkenny are good but on the theory that you couldnt rate brian cody who could yoou rate

maybe what kilkenny should do is maybe offer the job out in a celebrity bainisteoir style of management , you could have your man frank from the brides of franc for the semi final , and maybe bella from fair city in the final as manager

Very Bored

Roquentin wrote: »

to win the premier league you have to play 38. this is a good indication of how good a team is because there are a lot of games to psyche yourself up for. and psychology is very important in how teams play. now the less the amount of games you play the easier it is to psyche yourself up.

second of all, each team plays the same number of games. so there are no idiosyncrasies.

with the hurling, kilkenny have three tough games. someone in munster will have maybe five. its out of sync. added to the fact that there isnt even enough games to see how good a team really is.

the system is stupid. kilkenny produce the best hurlers in the country no question. but they are not properly tested as a team because they play few games. if you really want to test how good a team is brian clough used say, you test them over the course of 38 games. anybody can play good one or two matches because they psyche themselves up for it. can they psyche themselves up for 20 odd matches.

now 38 games would seem a bit high. i think something like the champions league (13 games for the winner) would be better. that would really test their mettle.

i enjoy the hurling more to watch than the football, but the team that wins the football has a greater achievement. they have to play more tough games

Your argument is all too stereotypical. Stereotypical of a soccer fan who only watches hurling during the summer because the Premier League is on hiatus. Which explains your denigration and lack of understanding of the contribution Brian Cody has made to hurling and the GAA over nearly 20 years. If you want to criticise him, even after all he has achieved, you'd be better off taking the tact that he has been seriously helped by the players he has had under his control over that time. You'd still be wrong but your argument would make more sense.

Roquentin

cody is the greatest manager no question. i just dont rate highly his achievements, because the system is set up for him to do well. if kilkenny had to play at least ten games every season and they achieved what they achieved, then yes i would say, fair dues to him.

but when kilkenny only have to play three hard games each season (two when they were dominating) i say to myself, its easy for them to win, with the collection of hurlers they have and given how few games they have to play

ceegee

Roquentin wrote: »

the whole thing is a farce tbh. kilkenny to win the top prize in hurling only play three serious games (leinster final, SF and Final). when they were dominating a few years ago they only played two games. it was a joke. I wouldnt rate what cody has done at all. its tailor made for them to succeed in.

its very easy to psyche yourself up for two games. it would be a lot harder if you had to play 30 games over a season, to psyche yourself up for each game.

Now the negative is that if they were to make a league out of it, the games would lose their intensity. But if a team really wants to win on merit they have to A) play more games ( at least ten in my books) and each team must play the same number of games)

a team from munster to win the all ireland may have to play five hard games, whereas kilkenny would only have to play two. the system is a joke and set up for them to succeed and it is so easy for kilkenny to dominate because they only play 2/3 matches. if this were a competition wherein you play 10 games each, they wouldnt dominate because psychological wise they wouldnt be able to psyche themselves up for each game.

Mountainlad

You rate his achievements highly enough for him to be the greatest manager of all time though...that's fairly high in a 127 year old competition.

Very Bored

Roquentin wrote: »

cody is the greatest manager no question. i just dont rate highly his achievements, because the system is set up for him to do well. if kilkenny had to play at least ten games every season and they achieved what they achieved, then yes i would say, fair dues to him.

but when kilkenny only have to play three hard games each season (two when they were dominating) i say to myself, its easy for them to win, with the collection of hurlers they have and given how few games they have to play

Why are you rattling on about playing ten games? Say Kilkenny played ten games and dominated eight of them would you then be calling for us to play twenty? Anyway, the championship isn't set up for any team to play ten games. It just doesn't work like that. Anyway, if its all set up for Kilkenny to win every year why is it only since Cody came in that we have dominated to this extent?

randd1

Roquentin wrote: »

to win the premier league you have to play 38. this is a good indication of how good a team is because there are a lot of games to psyche yourself up for. and psychology is very important in how teams play. now the less the amount of games you play the easier it is to psyche yourself up.

second of all, each team plays the same number of games. so there are no idiosyncrasies.

with the hurling, kilkenny have three tough games. someone in munster will have maybe five. its out of sync. added to the fact that there isnt even enough games to see how good a team really is.

the system is stupid. kilkenny produce the best hurlers in the country no question. but they are not properly tested as a team because they play few games. if you really want to test how good a team is brian clough used say, you test them over the course of 38 games. anybody can play good one or two matches because they psyche themselves up for it. can they psyche themselves up for 20 odd matches.

now 38 games would seem a bit high. i think something like the champions league (13 games for the winner) would be better. that would really test their mettle.

i enjoy the hurling more to watch than the football, but the team that wins the football has a greater achievement. they have to play more tough games

You do realise you are comparing professional soccer to amateur hurling?

As for the premier league, didn't Chelski walk away with that in much the same way United did for 20 years?

And all more games would just mean more wins for Kilkenny.

randd1

Roquentin wrote: »

cody is the greatest manager no question. i just dont rate highly his achievements, because the system is set up for him to do well. if kilkenny had to play at least ten games every season and they achieved what they achieved, then yes i would say, fair dues to him.

but when kilkenny only have to play three hard games each season (two when they were dominating) i say to myself, its easy for them to win, with the collection of hurlers they have and given how few games they have to play

How often does your county win the AI? I'll think you find it's very hard to do.