UFC 189 -Chad Mendes v Conor McGregor

dulux99

Lukker- wrote: »

Sinead O'Connor is gonna be singing Connor's entrance music

The person in that profile picture does not look like sinead o'connor!

CatFromHue

This rib injury is all very strange!

Davei141

Hazys wrote: »

TBF it was pretty close to what Aldo said.

Most of his statement was pretty good but that line was a little much. Attack Conor all you want, lords knows he deserves it but having a go at the Irish stereotype (no matter how true it is) was a bit much and petty.

Regardless how Aldo was treated in Dublin, Conor was treated the same in Rio but Conor has shown nothing but up most respect for the Brazilian people, Also hasn't show the same to us, so he went down a notch in my book.

I disagree strongly, being Irish is a schtick that a lots of fighters dine out on and no more than Conor so Aldo going after the Irish is fair game and funny too.

Foxtrol

Lukker- wrote: »

Sinead O'Connor is gonna be singing Connor's entrance music

Wonder if they can get Biggy to sing too, that would be amazing!!




:pac:

csallmighty

I find Aldo's statement a bit weird. I understand the part about the injury and he would want to explain it. Then he has a go at McGregor, that's ok he gives as good as he gets.

Its weird though him having a go now once the fights off yet there hasn't been a peep from him ever since the press tour a few months ago.

Lukker-

dulux99 wrote: »

The person in that profile picture does not look like sinead o'connor!

Think it's Whitney Houston's daughter Bobbi Kristina who is supposedly close to dying. Don't know why though, maybe she was friends with Whitney at some stage.

Anyways, pretty cool to have and it's the first time in UFC history that someone has had live entrance music. Supposedly Dana is a massive fan too :pac: (seriously)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13MQFCfCYdQ

I don't know if she'll sing the Biggy bit though..

Davei141

Irishcrx wrote: »

I find it funny that Aldo mentions in his comments that he cares more about his history and status in the sport after retirement as opposed to money.

Because if he runs from this and somehow manages to retire without facing McGregor now. A lot of people will remember him for his achivements yes.

But a lot will also remember this , will remember that he always pulled out of fights and will remember that he ran from McGregor and that he was a coward/afraid to face him.

Maybe that's true , maybe it's not but that's how peoples minds work and that's what time will remember.

Personally , I think he has an issue with his rib but I don't think it's broken. I think he knows if he is anything except 100% facing Conor he will lose , his rib section will be targeted. For all his saying Conor is a joker etc, he knows in his heart this guy is a great fighter and could beat him so maybe he is waiting until he's 100% to face him, maybe not.

Some people will say man up and fight , others might see his point of view, Aldo is the one with the belt after all so he does hold the cards.

Can we ban the next person to talk about Aldo running/being afraid of Conor? It is beyond stupid, i guess he was running/afraid of Josh Grispi, Eric Koch and Chad Mendes when he got injured before those fights too. Hasn't lost a fight in 10 years and is running from a fight..

If Aldo retired tomorrow he would be remembered as the greatest featherweight of all time so cut the nonsense.

Paully D

brevity wrote: »

I love this.

As if he wrote that himself though. A nice bit of PR work.

Irishcrx

Davei141 wrote: »

Can we ban the next person to talk about Aldo running/being afraid of Conor? It is beyond stupid, i guess he was running/afraid of Josh Grispi, Eric Koch and Chad Mendes when he got injured before those fights too. Hasn't lost a fight in 10 years and is running from a fight..

If Aldo retired tomorrow he would be remembered as the greatest featherweight of all time so cut the nonsense.

But IMO it's not nonsense. I already said in that comment that yes a lot of people will remember him for being a great figher and rightfully so but fact of the matter is a lot of people will also remember this incident IF he doesn't end up facing and beating McGregor.

Davei141

Irishcrx wrote: »

But IMO it's not nonsense. I already said in that comment that yes a lot of people will remember him for being a great figher and rightfully so but fact of the matter is a lot of people will also remember this incident IF he doesn't end up facing and beating McGregor.

"A lot of people" being a small handful of Conor fans who probably didn't know who Aldo was 2 years ago.

seannash

Irishcrx wrote: »

But IMO it's not nonsense. I already said in that comment that yes a lot of people will remember him for being a great figher and rightfully so but fact of the matter is a lot of people will also remember this incident IF he doesn't end up facing and beating McGregor.

Remember what exactly, that he didn't fight Conor Mc Gregor because he had a fractured rib?
Most people would say thats fairly easy to understand and doesn't diminish his record at all.
Irish fans might remember it somewhat differently because they believe that if Conor says hes running scared he must be.

Davei141

Besides the only way these 2 don't fight is if Conor gets beaten by Mendes and loses his next fight after that, in which case nobody will care that he hasn't beaten him. Conor wins and these 2 fight in a few months.

Irishcrx

Davei141 wrote: »

"A lot of people" being a small handful of Conor fans who probably didn't know who Aldo was 2 years ago.

UFC has grown fairly rapidly in the past two years & is still on the rise so yes there will be a lot of new fans who hopefully get into the sport and stay with it over the next few years, but your right they won't remember a bloody thing Aldo has done up to this point, that's what I am saying sure.:)

As I said, I do believe Aldo is geninely injured and won't fight under 100% which he is perfectly within his rights to do so. And I agree with you , anyone who thinks a world class figher like Aldo is afraid of anyone ,nevermind McGregor IS deluded.

SpaceCowb0y

Davei141 wrote: »

"A lot of people" being a small handful of Conor fans who probably didn't know who Aldo was 2 years ago.

Ive been a big fan of Aldo's for years, not getting dragged into a who has a bigger mickey because they watched him back in his WEC days argument but i've followed him long enough in the UFC and I'm not really a fan of McGregor or his mouth (bar the fact he is an irish man and i'll be behind him for that whoever he fights) but having saved my balls off to get away for the fight like many others feel utterly disgusted he's pulled out of YET ANOTHER fight. I understand injuries happen, but pulling out of 5 out of 8 fights is a shocking stat whatever way you look at it!

If and when he decides to fight it would be outrageous to let him fight in Brazil again now, not saying it should be Ireland either but at the very least the states, i can't see the UFC making either Mendes or Mcgregor do that now though.

Foxtrol

Davei141 wrote: »

Can we ban the next person to talk about Aldo running/being afraid of Conor? It is beyond stupid, i guess he was running/afraid of Josh Grispi, Eric Koch and Chad Mendes when he got injured before those fights too. Hasn't lost a fight in 10 years and is running from a fight..

If Aldo retired tomorrow he would be remembered as the greatest featherweight of all time so cut the nonsense.

I dont think he's afraid of them but he was afraid to fight them when he wasn’t completely 100%. You list those names as fighters who it would be surprising if Aldo was afraid of, yet he pushed back their fights time and again. Should a guy who you describe as the greatest of all time not be able to face and beat at least some of the 5 fights he dropped out without being at 100%? Some can say that’s just clever but personally it taints his legacy for me, especially seeing as the 145lbs division has hardly been a murderers row (apologies for the Roganism) of fighters.

Davei141

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Ive been a big fan of Aldo's for years, not getting dragged into a who has a bigger mickey because they watched him back in his WEC days argument but i've followed him long enough in the UFC and I'm not really a fan of McGregor or his mouth (bar the fact he is an irish man and i'll be behind him for that whoever he fights) but having saved my balls off to get away for the fight like many others feel utterly disgusted he's pulled out of YET ANOTHER fight. I understand injuries happen, but pulling out of 5 out of 8 fights is a shocking stat whatever way you look at it!

If and when he decides to fight it would be outrageous to let him fight in Brazil again now, not saying it should be Ireland either but at the very least the states, i can't see the UFC making either Mendes or Mcgregor do that now though.

I was as pissed off as anybody (well not as much as you lads going to the fight!) and cant disagree one bit about the shocking stat but i was taking issue with the tarnishing his legacy stuff which isn't true.

Zero-Cool

Now reports flying around that the doc david choi is a bit of a dodgy character. This is hillarious, conspiracy theorists will have a field day.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2013/4/22/4251626/san-diego-chargers-doctor-david-chao-has-chaotic-past

mrm

Foxtrol wrote: »

Wonder if they can get Biggy to sing too, that would be amazing!!




:pac:

Dont think so! Just extracted this from his wikipedia page:

"Big Tom suffers from a fear of flying, in 1980 he undertook a sea voyage across the Atlantic Ocean to record his Blue Wings album in Nashville."

I for one am happy McGregor is fighting a top 5 ranked fighter in the division before a title fight. He has said that he will clear out this division - I always thought that there should be another ranked fight for Conor between the Poirer fight and a title fight with Aldo (despite Also defeating each there are a lot of decent tests in there for Conor). I think McGregors style will be well tested by Mendes - we have witnessed many a strikers* rising career derailed by a decent wrestler, even by some not so decent. (* I haven't seen enough evidence of Conors takedown defence yet; hence the striker label).

Nonetheless, that McGregor Aldo fight gotta happen sometime! So much animosity! They gotta fight it out on New Years Eve at UFC 200 in Dublin (UFC 195-9 can be postponed til 2016). So please Mendes do your best to take your beating.

Old Perry

Off point but just as wec was mentioned. For anybody interested donald cerronne, faber, benson henderson, aldo and a host of others had some of there greatest battles in wec (imo) these are well worth looking up for hardened fans and people just gettin into it. Benson and cerrone if i remember correctly were almost unbeatable back then. not sure of the fight but i remember benson having his arm bent into impossible position, how it didnt break ill never know, and he still didnt submit. they used to play replays almost every night on one of the free skysports channels.

xtal191

WEC was great, anyone only getting into mma should check out WEC 48. They had so many great cards though.

Lenin Skynard

Sinead O'Connor is apparently going to sing McGregor's walkout song live in the arena as McGregor walks to the ring. http://severemma.com/2015/07/sinead-oconnor-to-sing-conor-mcgregors-walkout-song-at-ufc-189/

Very cringey if true. Apollo Creed kind of vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeoHcB9_wss

mrm

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

If and when he decides to fight it would be outrageous to let him fight in Brazil again now, not saying it should be Ireland either but at the very least the states,.

With the UFC being quite fond of money would it make financial sense to host such a big money maker as Aldo McGregor anywhere but the states?
Aldo Mendes 3, well that can happen in Aldos en-suite (or Mendes playpen) for all it would matter.

Strongbow10

Irishcrx wrote: »

UFC has grown fairly rapidly in the past two years & is still on the rise so yes there will be a lot of new fans who hopefully get into the sport and stay with it over the next few years, but your right they won't remember a bloody thing Aldo has done up to this point, that's what I am saying sure.:)

As I said, I do believe Aldo is geninely injured and won't fight under 100% which he is perfectly within his rights to do so. And I agree with you , anyone who thinks a world class figher like Aldo is afraid of anyone ,nevermind McGregor IS deluded.

it has grown in Ireland yes, but then again so has rugby. Cricket was gaining popularity after the world cup exploits. Point being, Irish fans are some of the biggest bandwagon jumpers of any country worldwide.

UFC has plateaued on a world level, it was increasing in popularity at a rapid rate up to 4-5 years ago but PPV buys have stagnated and even fallen. Shows are being confined to core markets as they are not selling out anymore.

Of course there are some lifelong, hardcore and knowledgable MMA fans in Ireland but like every sport, even Soccer, when you strip away the riff raff who ****e on like experts who have just read an idiots guide to "insert sport", you are left with a small few who will follow the sport when its no longer shiny and popular on facebook.

As for not remembering anything Aldo has done up to this point? I'm sure he will be devastated to hear Anto and the boys in Crumlin (who only started watching MMA 5minutes ago) are starting to question his legacy :P

Irishcrx

Fair enough strongbow , I just think it'll extend to outside Ireland for Aldos long term legacy that's all, if he really wanted to be remembered as a great champion...like say...Anderson Silva?

'Anderson Silva's clash with Chael Sonnen in the list of his all-time greatest performances? In one respect, it was the worst display of the Brazilian's career, suffering an absolute beating for 23 minutes. But on the flip side, he showed the true spirit of a champion to pull out the victory when all seemed lost. Silva claims he busted his ribs two weeks before UFC 117, and if that is true he should be commended for his bravery in fighting on despite having a hound dog of an opponent like Sonnen all over him. Having been rocked in round one, Silva looked like he had no answer to the American's top control, never once reversing the position in four rounds. Question marks began to arise over The Spider's ground game, but with 110 seconds remaining in the fight he locked on a triangle choke that forced the seemingly relentless Sonnen to tap. It was the ultimate get-out-of-jail card, played in arguably the most memorable fight of his career'

He didn't even mention the busted ribs until he'd won the fight.

Lenin Skynard

Strongbow10 wrote: »

it has grown in Ireland yes, but then again so has rugby. Cricket was gaining popularity after the world cup exploits. Point being, Irish fans are some of the biggest bandwagon jumpers of any country worldwide.

UFC has plateaued on a world level, it was increasing in popularity at a rapid rate up to 4-5 years ago but PPV buys have stagnated and even fallen. Shows are being confined to core markets as they are not selling out anymore.

Of course there are some lifelong, hardcore and knowledgable MMA fans in Ireland but like every sport, even Soccer, when you strip away the riff raff who ****e on like experts who have just read an idiots guide to "insert sport", you are left with a small few who will follow the sport when its no longer shiny and popular on facebook.

As for not remembering anything Aldo has done up to this point? I'm sure he will be devastated to hear Anto and the boys in Crumlin (who only started watching MMA 5minutes ago) are starting to question his legacy :P

What a miserable post.

Tinie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6L1aQbu8iQ

Pulse8

Jaysus lads does anyone read the thread, that's about the third time the Embedded video has been posted today & same goes for the Sinead O'Connor update

Lukker-

Pulse8 wrote: »

Jaysus lads does anyone read the thread, that's about the third time the Embedded video has been posted today & same goes for the Sinead O'Connor update

There is so much sh*t posts so no I don't.

CatFromHue

Pulse8 wrote: »

Jaysus lads does anyone read the thread, that's about the third time the Embedded video has been posted today & same goes for the Sinead O'Connor update

Did you hear, I think Aldo has an injury?

mrm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Did you hear, I think Aldo has an injury?

Not to worry, news is Sinead O Connor who originates from Chad I think has stepped in as a late replacement.

mrm

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Point being, Irish fans are some of the biggest bandwagon jumpers of any country worldwide. :P

Link? You certain this is a strong Irish only trait?

Just like in 2009 when we all crammed into the O2 to watch Tom Egan fix his hair after defeat to Hathaway. Oh, how we just bandwagoned the sh*t out of it that night. We were all new fans one time or another - sorry, bandwagoners.

Actually, based on that night, the Irish fanbase is built on a solid knowledge and understanding of the sport, which I think Dana commented on - thought he wouldn't have said otherwise). They appreciated the ground game very strongly , which bandwagoners normally get frustrated with early (refer to the immediate booing on fights that go to ground today in the American events to see which country might challenge us on our 'bandwagoning' title).

And on the Aldo legacy aspect, he is 28 (I know, a good few years fighting at top level, but ONLY on injury free basis) and the way that division has been ranked/ tiered by the top 5 and McGregors rise it is hard to see who else Aldo would have to fight to really have the division fully cleared out before retiring (after just one more fight). His legacy is well built and merited, but a serious lingering question will surface naturally if he pulls out and then retires (if this is the announcement coming) as McGregor 'mouthily' applies the pressure.

I like Aldo.

I am genuinely intrigued by the 'untested' (IMHO) but talented (IMHO) McGregor.

I am happy Conor has a top 5 ranked test before getting the title fight but I so want to have Aldo and McGregor answer the important question regarding victor/ untainted legacies in the only manner possible. If Conor wins maybe the bandwagoners become fans; if Aldo (fights and) wins - legacy enhanced (beyond reproach).

nc19

Davei141 wrote:

If Aldo retired tomorrow he would be remembered as the greatest featherweight of all time........

And also as the man who wriggled out of a fight with the first opponent with the goods to rattle him if not beat him.

I have no doubt Aldo will retire without fighting Conor

SureYWouldntYa

Pulse8 wrote: »

Jaysus lads does anyone read the thread, that's about the third time the Embedded video has been posted today & same goes for the Sinead O'Connor update

the worst thing about the embedded video being posted so much is how tight his bottoms are

darced

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ibrahimovic

All you negative nancies on here!! Everyone's on about the wrestling thing, we don't know for sure how good a wrestler Conor is but apparently he is good, not on the level of Mendes, but good. What we do know is, is that Conor has great wrestling take down defense, Conor reads his opponents so well I'm just finding it hard to see Mendes taking him down at all, unless Mendes disguises his take downs somehow!?

Mendes is a tough little bull of a man but the wrestling thing is being overplayed and I don't think its going to have much impact come saturday week. I also would be suprised to see him lasting 5 rounds with Conor, it's possible but i'd be suprised. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the last time Mendes submitted anyone like 5 years ago?

JustTheOne

ibrahimovic wrote: »

All you negative nancies on here!! Everyone's on about the wrestling thing, we don't know for sure how good a wrestler Conor is but apparently he is good, not on the level of Mendes, but good. What we do know is, is that Conor has great wrestling take down defense, Conor reads his opponents so well I'm just finding it hard to see Mendes taking him down at all, unless Mendes disguises his take downs somehow!?

Mendes is a tough little bull of a man but the wrestling thing is being overplayed and I don't think its going to have much impact come saturday week. I also would be suprised to see him lasting 5 rounds with Conor, it's possible but i'd be suprised. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the last time Mendes submitted anyone like 5 years ago?

I agree but siver got him down easy enough but couldn't keep him there

He has to be careful not to get too carefree if he's having success on his feet.

ibrahimovic

JustTheOne wrote: »

I agree but siver got him down easy enough but couldn't keep him there

He has to be careful not to get too carefree if he's having success on his feet.

Yeah i'm hoping Conor doesn't lose his concentration, even for a split second. Mendes isn't slow, id say hes faster than Conor actually.

winston82

Irishcrx wrote: »

But IMO it's not nonsense. I already said in that comment that yes a lot of people will remember him for being a great figher and rightfully so but fact of the matter is a lot of people will also remember this incident IF he doesn't end up facing and beating McGregor.

The incident of fracturing his ribs and being unable to fight?

Davei141

nc19 wrote: »

And also as the man who wriggled out of a fight with the first opponent with the goods to rattle him if not beat him.

I have no doubt Aldo will retire without fighting Conor

No doubt at all :rolleyes: 9 days left of this nonsense.

Irishcrx

winston82 wrote: »

The incident of fracturing his ribs and being unable to fight?

Yeah...for the 5th time.

Axwell

Ha Chael Sonnen is gas

Depp

I wonder will aldo attend the fight? could produce an interesting moment around the octagon interview if hes present should mcgregor win, which i believe he will

ibrahimovic

Depp wrote: »

I wonder will aldo attend the fight? could produce an interesting moment around the octagon interview if hes present should mcgregor win, which i believe he will

Think Dana said its very unlikely

Depp

makes sense, especially after Conor's last fight and what happened there at the end and that was before all this hullabaloo!

Dtp1979

Davei141 wrote: »

No doubt at all :rolleyes: 9 days left of this nonsense.

And the 3 weeks after the fight. Don't forget all that too

Beersmith

Conor is on conan tonight, should be good!

agent graves

Beersmith wrote: »

Conor is on conan tonight, should be good!

what channel is that on?

Dtp1979

agent graves wrote: »

what channel is that on?

Used to be in 3e but not sure now

Zero-Cool

Axwell wrote: »

Ha Chael Sonnen is gas

Just what did Chad do to piss off the MW and LW champ?

ASOT

sheehy83 wrote: »

Just what did Chad do to piss off the MW and LW champ?

Rule number 1 never avoid a gangster.