More than 1,000 children now homeless in Dublin

SummerSale

More than 1,000 children are now homeless in Dublin. The latest figures from the Dublin Region Homeless Executive show, in the week of May 18th-24th, there were 1,034 children – in 490 families – in emergency accommodation.

Absolutely shocking no?

Whatever about adults who have lost their way through drink and drugs and ended up on the streets. Would you walk past a begging homeless child?

snubbleste

They are in emergency accommodation, not sleeping rough.

MathDebater

Do you have a link to the report?

SummerSale

snubbleste wrote: »

They are in emergency accommodation, not sleeping rough.

Source?

Tzardine

Misleading thread title is misleading.

Whosthis

SummerSale wrote: »

More than 1,000 children are now homeless in Dublin. The latest figures from the Dublin Region Homeless Executive show, in the week of May 18th-24th, there were 1,034 children – in 490 families – in emergency accommodation.

Absolutely shocking no?

Whatever about adults who have lost their way through drink and drugs and ended up on the streets. Would you walk past a begging homeless child?

Would emergency accommodation not indicate that they're off the streets?

snubbleste

SummerSale wrote: »

Source?

Eh, your own post
The latest figures from the DRHE show, in the week of May 18th-24th, there were 1,034 children – in 490 families – in emergency accommodation.

kneemos

"Homeless " doesn't necessarily mean living in the street.
Those living in supported accommodation are also considered homeless I believe.

SummerSale

MathDebater wrote: »

Do you have a link to the report?

Yes, but as a new user I cant link to it here. It is on the Irish Times site.

BoJack Horseman

SummerSale wrote: »

Source?

http://www.homelessdublin.ie/homeless-figures

About 3,000 accessing homeless services.
105 rough sleepers.... (In Dublin)

NachoBusiness

Yeah, seen a few babies panhandling around the Grafton St area last night.

Apparently they just wanted money for some "breastmilk".

Yeah, course you do.

Crawl on.

Whosthis

kneemos wrote: »

"Homeless " doesn't necessarily mean living in the street.
Those living in supported accommodation are also considered homeless I believe.

Homeless in a hotel. The poor mites.

Generic Dreadhead

Outrageous!!!!

Happy OP?

darkpagandeath

Hop in a boat, Get rescued I'm sure you will get lot's of free stuff then.

JustTheOne

This is the problem. People read something on the journal and jump to conclusions blaming enda Kenny

Just like the homeless chap who died last year who sold 2 houses and refused accommodation because of his drug addiction

We have a high percentage of not so intelligent people its worrying.

darkpagandeath

JustTheOne wrote: »

This is the problem. People read something on the journal and jump to conclusions blaming enda Kenny

Just like the homeless chap who died last year who sold 2 houses and refused accommodation because of his drug addiction

We have a high percentage of not so intelligent people its worrying.

Sure stable homes are no interest to children. Sure routine means nothing to them.

JustTheOne

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Sure stable homes are no interest to children. Sure routine means nothing to them.

I'm merely pointing out the hyperbole.

BoJack Horseman

JustTheOne wrote: »

People read something on the journal and jump to conclusions blaming enda Kenny

That is the purpose of theJournal isn't it?

wakka12

Are most of these homeless children roma immigrants?

darkpagandeath

JustTheOne wrote: »

I'm merely pointing out the hyperbole.

Do they have a home ?

darkpagandeath

wakka12 wrote: »

Are most of these homeless children roma immigrants?

Can't be they only take the ones with blonde hair away they leave the others where they are.

fedor.2.

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Hop in a boat, Get rescued I'm sure you will get lot's of free stuff then.

Perfect

SEPT 23 1989

cant be pretty being cooped up in a hotel room with children for months at a time

CFlat

The term 'homeless' has changed over the last couple of decades.

When I was a young fella homeless people during the day heated their hands, wearing fingerless glooves, against a flaming barrel in the middle of a wasteland. At night they slept in a doorway covered in newspapers with their faithful dog, probably called Spot, sitting beside them.

Today homeless people in Ireland, live in hotels, guesthouses or hostels. They may not have their own home, but they are not homeless. Of course it would be great if everyone did, but we do not live in a utopian society.

The latter option, while not perfect, is a far better scenario, IMO.

darkpagandeath

CFlat wrote: »

The term 'homeless' has changed over the last couple of decades.

When I was a young fella homeless people during the day heated their hands, wearing fingerless glooves, against a flaming barrel in the middle of a wasteland. At night they slept in a doorway covered in newspapers with their faithful dog, probably called Spot, sitting beside them.

Today homeless people in Ireland, live in hotels, guesthouses or hostels. They may not have their own home, but they are not homeless. Of course it would be great if everyone did, but we do not live in a utopian society.

The latter option, while not perfect, is a far better scenario, IMO.

I'm sure one would swap with the fortunate people you are talking about, Sure even a TD I bet would jump at the chance to live in a hotel with kids. Words change society's change what was acceptable once is not now.

Streetwalker

But but but our bond yields are down or something.

Tony EH

CFlat wrote: »

The term 'homeless' has changed over the last couple of decades.

When I was a young fella homeless people during the day heated their hands, wearing fingerless glooves, against a flaming barrel in the middle of a wasteland. At night they slept in a doorway covered in newspapers with their faithful dog, probably called Spot, sitting beside them.

Today homeless people in Ireland, live in hotels, guesthouses or hostels. They may not have their own home, but they are not homeless. Of course it would be great if everyone did, but we do not live in a utopian society.

The latter option, while not perfect, is a far better scenario, IMO.

The term "homeless" always meant no fixed abode.

Depraved

1000 in emergency accommodation? That's not homeless.

Where I am in Manilla, there are 50 times that number really living on the street. The world is a different, crueler place after you see a 4 & 9 year old in torn clothes sleeping on a concrete path surrounded by cockroaches.

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Tabnabs

If the Councils stopped selling publicly funded social housing to tenants, at a knock down price, we'd have a hell of a lot more kids in stable housing. It would also cost the taxpayer a lot less than subsidising "emergency" accommodation to a private landlord/business.

suicide_circus

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do they have a home ?

Ask their parents

Egginacup

Whosthis wrote: »

Homeless in a hotel. The poor mites.

You think they're lolling about in the penthouse suite of the Shelbourne and being waited on hand an foot by maids and butlers?

suicide_circus

Considering we're just coming out of a period of major economic difficulty, those figures look pretty good tbh

osarusan

Clickety-click bait, here on boards.

il gatto

I think it does a disservice to people on the streets and people in emergency accommodation. For rough sleepers to be tallied up with people in a hotel bed is wrong. But also for people in emergency accommodation when people say "that's not homeless". They are in a plight, albeit not as drastic as living under a canal bridge. It's still a tough station.

rubadub

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do they have a home ?

are they begging on the street like the OP inferred? thats the hyperbole he was talking about.

I would have guessed it would be a higher number

biko

I saw a baby homeless in St Stephens Green, you won't believe what happened next.

littleredspot

Dublin City Council changed the rules a couple of yeas ago and you now have to be "officially homeless" (ie living in a hostel or b and b or street) for 6 months to get on the housing list, which you need to be on to get rent support. IMO that's the single biggest contributory factor to the "homeless" numbers going through the roof. And yet strangely I've never heard a politician mention it.

Gatling

littleredspot wrote: »

Dublin City Council changed the rules a couple of yeas ago and you now have to be "officially homeless" (ie living in a hostel or b and b or street) for 6 months to get on the housing list, which you need to be on to get rent support. IMO that's the single biggest contributory factor to the "homeless" numbers going through the roof. And yet strangely I've never heard a politician mention it.

To get onto the housing list you only have to be assessed as having a housing need .
To get rent supplement you have to be privately renting or have a housing need .

Homeless numbers are going through the roof due to the rents increasing yearly and rent supplements falling for several years .
And the fact many people who are on the list refuse to move outside of the main cities where rents are cheaper

littleredspot

Gatling wrote: »

To get onto the housing list you only have to be assessed as having a housing need .
To get rent supplement you have to be privately renting or have a housing need .

This has always been the case, what they changed is that now to be assessed as having a housing need for the first time, you must first be homeless.
Once you get this letter you can apply for rent support, if you can find a landlord to accept it.
I can only speak from my experience with DCC though, it could be different in other areas.

Dravokivich

SummerSale wrote: »

Whatever about adults who have lost their way through drink and drugs and ended up on the streets. Would you walk past a begging homeless child?

You don't need to be destitute to be destitute anymore. The house my girlfriend and I are in now is thankfully at less than the market rate. Our landlord hasn't approached us with a rent review. But if they were to we wouldn't be able to meet it. Nor anywhere else in our area at all.