Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

Mitch Connor

So anyone think the club are going to get the signings in fir preseason starting tomorrow? Surprisingly I don't think the club is going to achieve that target.

nullzero

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So anyone think the club are going to get the signings in fir preseason starting tomorrow? Surprisingly I don't think the club is going to achieve that target.

It's like 2013 all over again.

Mitch Connor

nullzero wrote: »

It's like 2013 all over again.

But this summer is different. No need to be concerned about the lack of movement. None at all. You'd have to be a child to think that maybe Woodward isn't the best at sealing transfers in a timely manner.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Choo..........



Nevermind

MagicMarker

yawn

RobertKK

City have signed Pogba, de Bruyne and Sterling, United only Depay.
Well that is the impression given by some...

The Moldy Gowl

MagicMarker wrote: »

yawn

Sunday morning in the middle of summer and they are at it.

What a horrible existence.

pmasterson95

We have a choo choo the quad is ours.

hufpc8w3adnk65

What about a cheeky bid for Gotze his agent making a few comments about his playing time

dubmick

Guardian are saying Van Persie has agree personal terms with Fenerbache

PhlegmyMoses

MrMac84 wrote: »

What about a cheeky bid for Gotze his agent making a few comments about his playing time

He is undoubtedly a great player, but we already have one of him in Juan Mata, and our system doesn't even get the very best out of him. Pace as well as technical ability is what we need in our forward signings this summer, imo.

MagicIRL

Lads I'll be driving this positivity train right to Manchester station all summer long. Hop on, hop off. I don't really care. I don't even know why I wrote this. Annnyway. Anna Kendrick is a fine thing.

The Moldy Gowl

J. Marston wrote: »

Full clip. Such a tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwWJe2yX2w

Just on this. He gets angry at his publicist because they want to end the interview early.
He says do they want him to be rude to the people with questions and they will have to deal with it.


Unless you're saying the publicist is the tool?
Something tells me it's not.

adox

Rule 1 of Superthread: though shalt not question Utds transfer policy.

The_Kew_Tour

No point in BS here but I would like signings done before tour but at end of day I rather wait a bit and get the right quality then buying to keep everyone happy. We are ambitious and going after big targets, that has be welcome for a start.

Deals are done or close I reckon, just need be little calm imo

brinty

MagicIRL wrote: »

Lads I'll be driving this positivity train right to Manchester station all summer long. Hop on, hop off. I don't really care. I don't even know why I wrote this. Annnyway. Anna Kendrick is a fine thing.

That's the boi magic
Confidence
I'm on the train
#choo****ingchoobitches
#PositivityTrain
#godblessAnnaKendrick

Copper_pipe

Angel Di Maria was injured and Marcos Rojo was also on the receiving end of a shock result in the Copa America final - but there was joy for former Manchester United striker Angelo Henriquez who featured for the winning team Chile.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jul/angel-di-maria-injured-and-marcos-rojo-also-starts-for-argentina-in-copa-america-final-against-chile.aspx

Hes gone so...

pmasterson95

Copper_pipe wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jul/angel-di-maria-injured-and-marcos-rojo-also-starts-for-argentina-in-copa-america-final-against-chile.aspx

Hes gone so...

He was registered with the PL as being under contract for next season?

Ah well we are great at transfers. Choo choo they just forgot to tell anyone.

Whatsisname

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/617467128858476544

I don't think the club even know if they own him anymore or not

TheTownie

Henriquez signed a contract with Dinamo Zagreb in January to make the transfer permanent this summer. Fee was €1.5M.

Blatter

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Duncan Castle should be banned from being mentioned in this thread. As mentioned above he is just a WUM and everything he says in relation to the club is to piss off United fans. And he throws a lot of shít at the wall hoping some will stick so he looks right.

I'm surprised that somebody above his head at the Times hasn't had a word with him yet. Very unprofessional work for a paper with such a good rep. He's pretty sinister about it all as well, the hatred runs deep.

pmasterson95

TheTownie wrote: »

Henriquez signed a contract with Dinamo Zagreb in January to make the transfer permanent this summer. Fee was €1.5M.

Then why was Angelo Henriquez on our retained list? http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/squad-lists/premier-league-professional-retained-list-2014-2015.pdf

DM_7

Mitch Connor wrote: »

But this summer is different. No need to be concerned about the lack of movement. None at all. You'd have to be a child to think that maybe Woodward isn't the best at sealing transfers in a timely manner.

Can't blame you for the above since you get so much grief but it is the kind of post that will make others look past the actual points your making and just shout 'baby'.

Mitch Connor

DM_7 wrote: »

Can't blame you for the above since you get so much grief but it is the kind of post that will make others look past the actual points your making and just shout 'baby'.

they do it anyway - i've tried explaining my point of view in detail many times, and why I think the way I do - all I get is "You need to grow up blah blah blah". Some people just don't like to discuss United negatively.

Manutd_4life

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

No point in BS here but I would like signings done before tour but at end of day I rather wait a bit and get the right quality then buying to keep everyone happy. We are ambitious and going after big targets, that has be welcome for a start.

Deals are done or close I reckon, just need be little calm imo

More positivity please.:D:D

We may not have the deals done yet (or maybe we do :cool:) but either way i'm confident the club will bring in the right players. Not many clubs around Europe have done big business yet. It's been a month for rumours and gossip

TheTownie

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Then why was Angelo Henriquez on our retained list? http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/site-content/News/publications/squad-lists/premier-league-professional-retained-list-2014-2015.pdf

Thats the sqaud list for last season. Henriquez was a Utd player last season who was on loan. The contract he signed January now takes effect and he is no longer a Utd player.

pmasterson95

TheTownie wrote: »

Thats the sqaud list for last season. Henriquez was a Utd player last season who was on loan. The contract he signed January now takes effect and he is no longer a Utd player.

Thats actually this years, the retained list is published the third week of May at the end of every year and informs of those under contract and those released. But I found from the official site that he has joined Zagreb.

TheTownie

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Thats actually this years, the retained list is published the third week of May at the end of every year and informs of those under contract and those released. But I found from the official site that he has joined Zagreb.

Ok its a list as of 28 May. Henriquez was a Utd player as of 28 May. He was then sold for a fee of €1.5M which was pre-agreed at the beginning of his loan. Dinamo Zagreb decided to activate and sign off on the permanent transfer in January. It has now taken effect this summer.

2moreMinutes

Between international duty, preparing for weddings, going on honeymoon and having a little break after honeymoons, maybe some players just haven't had the time to finalise deals......

UnitedIrishman

pmasterson95 wrote: »

He was registered with the PL as being under contract for next season?

Ah well we are great at transfers. Choo choo they just forgot to tell anyone.

I'm afraid we have patented the term 'Choo Choo' and will ask that you refrain from using it in a mocking way in future. Perhaps you could use the term 'Boo hoo' instead.

Regards,
Members of the Positivity Train.

pmasterson95

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I'm afraid we have patented the term 'Choo Choo' and will ask that you refrain from using it in a mocking way in future. Perhaps you could use the term 'Boo hoo' instead.

Regards,
Members of the Positivity Train.

Hey I was agreeing? Thomas The Tank Engine is what we badly needed last year

Discodog

adox wrote: »

Duncan Castle in The Times is saying that Ramos wants to sign a new contract with Madrid and Schneiderlin prefers a move to Arsenal.

He is saying that Schneiderlin has told friends that he would prefer to work with Wenger. He apparently prefers Arsenal's "more settled style of play" & staying in the South of England.

Liam O

Do United just give players to clubs and say "ah sure lads pay us what you have". I mean alright he never pulled up any trees at United but a 21 year old Chile international who bangs in the goals for them and €1.5m? Isn't that significantly less than was originally paid for him?

TheTownie

Liam O wrote: »

Do United just give players to clubs and say "ah sure lads pay us what you have". I mean alright he never pulled up any trees at United but a 21 year old Chile international who bangs in the goals for them and €1.5m? Isn't that significantly less than was originally paid for him?

Fee Utd paid was said to be about £4M. As part of the loan Zagreb had first refusal on him and that fee must have been agreed prior to the loan too. Henriquez then went and banged in the goals prompting Zagreb sign off on it in January given the bargain price.

Liam O

TheTownie wrote: »

Fee Utd paid was said to be about £4M. As part of the loan Zagreb had first refusal on him and that fee must have been agreed prior to the loan too. Henriquez then went and banged in the goals prompting Zagreb sign off on it in January given the bargain price.

It could have course be possible that he refused it no? With the earlier article it's doubtful though I guess...

TheTownie

Liam O wrote: »

It could have course be possible that he refused it no? With the earlier article it's doubtful though I guess...

I go by what was said from the horse's mouth. Dinamo boss Zoran Mamic said in January to HRSport;

"We got him with the right of first refusal -- he cost us 1.5 million euros. We already signed the contract with him [beginning] from the summer. There's no dilemma any more: he's ours and that's final."

Mitch Connor

Liam O wrote: »

It could have course be possible that he refused it no? With the earlier article it's doubtful though I guess...

Henriquez himself wasn't keen on making it a full signing earlier in the year, apparently. So maybe he still is a United player because of that.

The Moldy Gowl

Liam O wrote: »

Do United just give players to clubs and say "ah sure lads pay us what you have". I mean alright he never pulled up any trees at United but a 21 year old Chile international who bangs in the goals for them and €1.5m? Isn't that significantly less than was originally paid for him?

Don't see he need to haggle over a few million or so for a player we don't need.
Utd don't seem to be that club that holds back players and dosent respect what they want.
They don't really stand in there way.

Backstreet Moyes

I know i read it on Redcafe and someone posted it here awhile ago that Henriquez wasn't sold.

Whatsisname

Nine players' loans away from the club have expired – namely Sam Johnstone, Reece James, Saidy Janko, Guillermo Varela, Jesse Lingard, Nani, Angelo Henriquez, Javier Hernandez and Will Keane. Janko departed permanently on Wednesday for Celtic, while Henriquez has joined loan club Dinamo Zagreb on a permanent basis.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jul/manchester-united-first-team-squad-player-profiles.aspx?pageNo=1

Adamocovic

Adamocovic wrote: »

I've only seen Darmian with Italy. Mostly World Cup so that's only three games, if I remember right he started at right back for all of those so he clearly must be good.

Anyone follow Italian football able to say how good he is? We need a right back so I would be all for it. Do people who have watched a lot of him reckon he'd be a big improvement to team?

He is very good attacking defender. On Serie A team of the year 2014. We paid just under €2m for him in 2013, sell for €20m would be nice business, but we should be keeping him.

TheTownie

Whatsisname wrote: »

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jul/manchester-united-first-team-squad-player-profiles.aspx?pageNo=1

And for the Spanish speaking contingent here, you can listen to Henriquez confirming hes leaving Utd for Zagreb on Chilean radio here. interview starts 13 minutes in.

Rayne Wooney

Otamendi's agent said he won't be going to Madrid to replace Ramos and that he will be already at another club before Ramos leaves

Whatsisname

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Otamendi's agent said he won't be going to Madrid to replace Ramos and that he will be already at another club before Ramos leaves

IamtheWalrus

Any truth in the rumoured quotes from LvG that he's happy with current Utd squad and there's no value in the market?

brinty

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Any truth in the rumoured quotes from LvG that he's happy with current Utd squad and there's no value in the market?

Hmmm not sure if serious???

Nalz

Mitch Connor wrote: »

they do it anyway - i've tried explaining my point of view in detail many times, and why I think the way I do - all I get is "You need to grow up blah blah blah". Some people just don't like to discuss United negatively.

Hey Mitch. I don't think its a case that people don't want to discuss United negatively, I think there's a few patterns that start to become a little tedious on this thread for a few posters (usually ends up in those beautiful nsfw pics though - which is nice..............very nice!)

You posted the below

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So anyone think the club are going to get the signings in fir preseason starting tomorrow? Surprisingly I don't think the club is going to achieve that target.

I'm not sure what you expect or want to come from this post.

* A civil honest discussion on Woodward and his team\colleagues capabilities in signing players?
* A solution to Manchester United's so called Man Utd transfer fee tax where the fees get bumped up and their geographic position in the UK?
* Why there's a delay in signings this summer after the manager stating he'd prefer to have most of the deals done by now?

Surely this has been done to death no? Even if it hasn't I think there's better ways of phrasing it that don't come across as moany, negative, angry etc. Like suggesting why you think its not happening and asking do others agree. Very few people want to hear\read things like "Woodward again, shiit as usual" "clubs fooked and we're doomed" "no signings I'm depressed".

Arsenal have signed one player, Chelsea two, Spurs two, Man City none (as far as I'm aware) Stoke one It can't all be that bad!

Its like sitting beside the old man in the bar who'll do nothing but state the negative obvious issues and over hype them... usually the over hype is backed up with a story he heard or a tabloid news article that's full of BS. Nobody wants to listen to him. Nobody wants to read that. A lot of the time its how things are worded imo.

Personally I'd like to see reasons and solutions stated as to why something is going on, be it negative or positive. I'm sure this is done sometimes but not all the time, and when its not it just brings a lot of negativity with it. Also I think new rumours without sources should be a big no no. Again going back to the old man, nobody wants to hear or read his fairy-tales. These are just personal opinions and how I view things. I'm not trying to represent the people you say that tell you to "grow up" etc.

There's one or two posters on here who challenge Woodward and the staff when it comes to transfers quite frequently... and I get that to an extent. What I don't get however is when certain posters (not you in this example) post things like "i wish United fans would show some ambition and stop accepting mediocrity when it comes to our transfer dealing." I just don't understand what exactly would the fans not accepting such mediocrity + showing more ambition do? What does gathering in the masses, getting upset and negative, showing more ambition as fans, posting anger and frustration excessively on boards do for us or Manchester United? These type of comments come across as a battle cry or a way to vent (frequently).... a battle in my opinion that in this modern world we can make very little influence if any on.

Nalz

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Otamendi's agent said he won't be going to Madrid to replace Ramos and that he will be already at another club before Ramos leaves

where did you see\read\hear this?

davemckenna25

http://http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/2511033/man-utd-target-nicolas-otamendi-is-not-joining-real-madrid

I think this is where it comes from about Otamendi will sign for someone else before/if Ramos leaves Madrid.

jayo26

Id be extremely happy of our central defenders consist of otamendi, Ramos, jones and smalling.
It would end Evans spell at club seen as he is the only one of the current 3 not to be given a new contract yet and jones and smalling would have a bit of breathing space to learn from the new two.
But I still cant see Ramos deal coming off I still think he will end up with a new contract at Madrid.