Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

RayCun

jayo26 wrote: »

But villa cant not sell to pool as they have met his release clause they have no option not to.

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Liverpool owner John Henry has admitted striker Luis Suarez had a £40m buy-out clause in his previous contract but that the club refused to sell anyway...
"Arsenal offered £40m and one pound for him and triggered his buy-out clause," said Henry.
"Since apparently these contracts don't seem to hold, we took the position we're just not selling."

TheDoc

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the reality is Ferguson left us with a team consisting of 5-6 players about to hit 30 or well past it, with another group of squad players in a similar story.

add in a group of horrifically average players and a gaping hold in midfield that he neglected for 5 or 6 years and its very pityful reading for the club.

To be honest with hindsight it appears that either the club totally misread the Fergie factor regarding our squad, as there was flags being raised loud and clear during that last title, and even before it.

That Gill made a resounding press conference about how the club had a squad that could compete for years, supplemented by the youth system, and they didn't want someone to come in and tear the squad apart, showed how poorly they managed and read the situation before they left, and how they landed a bum deal on Moyes and Woodward, where the club was not ready to make the investment in players Moyes flagged quickly upon his arrival.

jayo26

RayCun wrote: »

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No suarez seemingly never had a buy out clause he had a clause saying they had to inform suarez of any offer over 40 million or something along that line but it wasnt a buy out clause. But if im wrong which i usually am on these things im open to correction.

Cookiemunster

RayCun wrote: »

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The difference is that Liverpool didn't want to sell Suarez. Villa are willing to sell Benteke as along as the release clause is met. They can't tell him he's not going to Liverpool but can go to anyone else who meets the clause.

bangkok

MythicalMadMan wrote: »

That looks or feels very narrow im not sure why though.

Not sure how the dirt road footballer, Benteke will do at liverpool

on paper yea, I only did the front 5. countinho and firmino can play wide and they will also have width from Clyne and Moreno.

bangkok

we didn't put a bid in for Benteke, anyone think we might be going to sign Benzema??



don't forget Ed Woodward met Benzema's agent in London a few weeks ago.



Maybe we are bidding on Ramos, knowing we are going to sign Otamendi and then Madrid agree to sell us Benzema instead of Ramos?



Benzema and Otamendi would be unreal

jayo26

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The difference is that Liverpool didn't want to sell Suarez. Villa are willing to sell Benteke as along as the release clause is met. They can't tell him he's not going to Liverpool but can go to anyone else who meets the clause.

Yes but surely if suarez had a release clause then they had to sell him to arsenal if they wanted to or not? I understood it that he had some sort of clause but it wasnt a release clause.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

we didn't put a bid in for Benteke, anyone think we might be going to sign Benzema??



don't forget Ed Woodward met Benzema's agent in London a few weeks ago.



Maybe we are bidding on Ramos, knowing we are going to sign Otamendi and then Madrid agree to sell us Benzema instead of Ramos?



Benzema and Otamendi would be unreal

Yeh id love that too, I rate benzema he is more adaptable then most strikers and has a good eye for goal.

MisterAnarchy

TheDoc wrote: »

To be honest with hindsight it appears that either the club totally misread the Fergie factor regarding our squad, as there was flags being raised loud and clear during that last title, and even before it.

That Gill made a resounding press conference about how the club had a squad that could compete for years, supplemented by the youth system

I recall a few posters here deriding me when I said that title winning team was the worst Utd team in over 15-20 years.

Some people were adamant it was the strongest Utd squad of all time .

Save for a handful of excellent players playing at their peak, the rest of that squad was mainly average players or top players on the decline.
I dont think any other manager could have won the league with such a poor team,its a testament to Fergusons greatness that he won that league.

Lovely Bloke

other teams were rubbish too

jayo26

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I recall a few posters here deriding me when I said that title winning team was the worst Utd team in over 15-20 years.

Some people were adamant it was the strongest Utd squad of all time .

Save for a handful of excellent players playing at their peak, the rest of that squad was mainly average players or top players on the decline.
I dont think any other manager could have won the league with such a poor team,its a testament to Fergusons greatness that he won that league.

Rvp made that team look good it wasnt even close to the best united team city were terrible thst year and chelsea were non existant and we came back t9 win so many games at the death and fergie helped too.

bangkok

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I recall a few posters here deriding me when I said that title winning team was the worst Utd team in over 15-20 years.

Some people were adamant it was the strongest Utd squad of all time .

Save for a handful of excellent players playing at their peak, the rest of that squad was mainly average players or top players on the decline.
I dont think any other manager could have won the league with such a poor team,its a testament to Fergusons greatness that he won that league.

de gea


Rafael

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vidic

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fedinand

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evra



Valencia

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carrick

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scholes

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giggs

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rooney

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van persie


how could you call that a bad team?

adox

The lack of quality in Fergies last squad is being greatly exaggerated on here.
That squad was at least good enough for top 4 the following season under a stronger manager.

The midfield was neglected but overall it was an excellent squad and ultimately the club only have themselves to blame for such a big rebuilding job being needed, through poor choices post Fergie and indecisiveness also. It only takes a couple of things for a kingdom to fall, it doesnt follow that the kingdom was never really that strong in the first place.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

de gea


Rafael

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vidic

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fedinand

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evra



Valencia

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carrick

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scholes

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giggs

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rooney

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van persie


how could you call that a bad team?

If they were all in their prime it would of been a fantastic team but vidic,ferdinand,scholes and giggs were past it and valencia was pretty poor that season i think. Rooney wasnt great either coming near the end of it as he was after falling out with manager.

v3ttel

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I recall a few posters here deriding me when I said that title winning team was the worst Utd team in over 15-20 years.

Some people were adamant it was the strongest Utd squad of all time.

Can you quote 3 credible regular posters who said that the 2012/13 squad was the strongest of all time? Considering the 2008 CL winners including Ronaldo, Tevez, etc and the 1999 Treble team, I doubt many would have been of this opinion.

I also don't think the 2012/13 squad was the weakest over the last 15-20 years. The truth as always, lies somewhere in the middle.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

If they were all in their prime it would of been a fantastic team but vidic,ferdinand,scholes and giggs were past it and valencia was pretty poor that season i think. Rooney wasnt great either coming near the end of it as he was after falling out with manager.

past it fitness wise yes but you never lose your skill/football brain.

they were good enough to win the games they needed to win and then other players like Hernandez, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Cleverly, Kagawa, Anderson, nani, Welbeck all played other games when called upon. It was a very good squad, but the manager was so good and that was the difference

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

past it fitness wise yes but you never lose your skill/football brain.

they were good enough to win the games they needed to win and then other players like Hernandez, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Cleverly, Kagawa, Anderson, nani, Welbeck all played other games when called upon. It was a very good squad, but the manager was so good and that was the difference

Yeh i agree with you on that even still seen scholes play the odd charity game he still stands out on the pitch,

Korat

I'm not exactly blown away by the signings so far but I'll be happy when we sign a quality CB and GK.

It will happen and it will be done efficiently.

Giggsy11

That's James Wilson isn't it?



Compared to how he was at the last season.

jayo26

Korat wrote: »

I'm not exactly blown away by the signings so far but I'll be happy when we sign a quality CB and GK.

It will happen and it will be done efficiently.

Ok maybe this will help you mate.

Think back this time two year ago our centrsl midfield consisted of tom cleverley and anderson we didnt have many options on the wings apart from nani and valencia we had next to no options as a number 10 other then rooney.

Now we have schweinsteiger we have schneiderlin we have herrera we have mata we have depay we have di maria?????? Not every position is fixed but we cant go buyin 11 players in one wondow it is a PROSESH and a PROSESH takes time.

jayo26

Giggsy11 wrote: »

That's James Wilson isn't it?



Compared to how he was at the last season.

He has been hanging out with depay by the looks of it.

Hococop

Posted by xenji on the humor thread top quality

Fenix

I don't see much of a difference tbh.

Trond

Wilson's been on some special gym programme for the last few months apparently. Hopefully it should help with all those niggily injuries.

The Moldy Gowl

Fenix wrote: »

I don't see much of a difference tbh.

Between what?

Awks. Never mind.

Mars Bar

I can't find it now but I thought I read somewhere that Wilson broke a record in the gym set by Rooney.

jayo26

Mars Bar wrote: »

I can't find it now but I thought I read somewhere that Wilson broke a record in the gym set by Rooney.

Surely wilson didnt sleep with that many of the fitness instructors?

Giggsy11

Fenix wrote: »

I don't see much of a difference tbh.

Mars Bar wrote: »

I can't find it now but I thought I read somewhere that Wilson broke a record in the gym set by Rooney.

I thought his calf muscles were clear cut. I think Andy Mitten said he broke numerous records on lifting weights with leg.

Mars Bar

Giggsy11 wrote: »

I thought his calf muscles were clear cut. I think Andy Mitten said he broke numerous records on lifting weights with leg.

Thank you! I couldn't find the article about it but now I did. Glad I wasn't imagining it.

Royal Irish

I see Real Madrid have signed a keeper. I hope that means DDG is staying.

secman

Mars Bar wrote: »

I can't find it now but I thought I read somewhere that Wilson broke a record in the gym set by Rooney.

The granny he did was 71

brinty

Mars Bar wrote: »

I can't find it now but I thought I read somewhere that Wilson broke a record in the gym set by Rooney.

What how many grannies he cpould throw down with in the gym....

atta boi James....

allthedoyles

Royal Irish wrote: »

I see Real Madrid have signed a keeper. I hope that means DDG is staying.

I'd be very philosophical about that now .

Kerrydude1981

https://twitter.com/Cantona_20/status/622070410587320320


Daley Blind is like a fella you would see on Home and Away

homerjay2005

Fenix wrote: »

I don't see much of a difference tbh.

indeed...this was the first thing that came to mind when i seen the reference.

TheMilkyPirate

There is pretty much no difference in his physique in those two pictures?

We can't even see his calf muscles in the game pic so it's hard to compare

kilrush

Hank Scorpio

Can't wait for the game tonight, LVG is going to play 2 different teams each half. 4AM KO Irish time

Manutd_4life

Bastian Schweinsteiger: "Bayern Munich is a big club but Manchester United is bigger."

Stahp it :P

Giggsy11

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Bastian Schweinsteiger: "Bayern Munich is a big club but Manchester United is bigger."

Stahp it :P

https://twitter.com/BSchweinsteiger/status/622087656395153408

Manutd_4life

Eid Mubarak to all Muslim Red Devils!!!!

ParkRunner

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Can't wait for the game tonight, LVG is going to play 2 different teams each half. 4AM KO Irish time

Have to wonder how beneficial it is to be playing matches in a time zone 12 hours or so different to what they are used to. Still I'll get up to watch it at a more manageable 6am for me

Manutd_4life

I want everyone in this picture to have a big big season next season.

Mitch Connor

I've bad news for you lads....

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/622089742071537666

I can't believe it, gutted i am!

Mitch Connor

Manutd_4life wrote: »

I want everyone in this picture to have a big big season next season.

I'm hoping they have a big season this season to be honest.

Manutd_4life

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I've bad news for you lads....

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNewsHQ/status/622090644652212224

I can't believe it, gutted i am!

Woodward is such a G. Good news that we are not feeding R.Madrid. We need to start competing with the likes of them and barca in europe so we are not doing ourself any good by strengthening their weak spot without strengthening ours

Manutd_4life

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'm hoping they have a big season this season to be honest.

Stop

Manutd_4life

Just a bit of banter:

Delph 6 days ago: "I'm not leaving. I can't wait to start the season & captain this great club"

Today: City medical.

Mitch Connor

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Stop

NO! YOU STOP!

Manutd_4life

Mitch Connor wrote: »

NO! YOU STOP!

ok.........