Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

Mitch Connor

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

Bollox, that is.

He was the wrong choice but I think it is rather insulting to SAF to claim he deliberately looked to f*ck united over.

duffman13

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

Ah jaysis that's a load of crap and you know it

pmasterson95

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

Thats as suprising as claiming United should sign Dost.

Trigger

MythicalMadMan wrote: »

Ya using last night as a very loose baseline they should do very well, Schweinsteigers composure on the ball is unbelievable impressed me immensely add the workrate of Scneirderlin.

Did we got 3-5-2 in every game of pre season last year, wondering is last night a strong indicator of whats to come.

I think the formations last night were done more to fit everyone in and give everyone game time, i wouldn't take it as an indication of what is to come.

irishfeen

Fantasy Football is going to be a challenge

Trigger

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

jayo26

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

You just keep throwing yourself out there lol

Reedsie

irishfeen wrote: »

"Last year we finished 4th ... that's not good enough!"

Love LVG

Didn't he follow it up with something like "We need to be top 3"? That's where I miss Fergie. Fergie's next sentence would have been "We'll be challenging, no doubt about that."

Montroseee

Think Schneiderlin is going to absolutely huge for us! Haven't been this excited for the start of the season in a long time, get Otamendi in and the squad is in unbelievable shape and will challenge on all fronts IMO. Incredible to think of the CM options we have now compared to two years ago.

Trigger

Chico getting another chance to prove himself.

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/622279721804410880

The Moldy Gowl

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Memphis laying down the law to UK commentators already.

https://twitter.com/Ian_Ladyman_DM/status/622219505922486273

I think that's being a bit precious. A lot of people's fathers are gowls. Seems to just have a chip on the shoulder about it and not accepting it as life.

pmasterson95

jayo26 wrote: »

You just keep throwing yourself out there lol

I suppose we are blinded by the tabloids and cannot see the truth.

Lithium93_

astradave wrote: »

Chico getting another chance to prove himself.

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/622279721804410880

Really hopes Chicharito takes his chances and prove himself..

adox

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

You are becoming very predictable. #hipster

Lithium93_

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I think that's being a bit precious. A lot of people's fathers are gowls. Seems to just have a chip on the shoulder about it and not accepting it as life.

Frankly i wouldn't blame him really for wanting Memphis on his jersey.

adox

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Really hopes Chicharito takes his chances and prove himself..

I think his ship has sailed at Utd, under the current regime at least. He just doesn't have the game to play the role Van Gaal wants from his striker.

jayo26

pmasterson95 wrote: »

I suppose we are blinded by the tabloids and cannot see the truth.

Yeh we are just following the popular opinion we should form our own opinions

adox

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I think that's being a bit precious. A lot of people's fathers are gowls. Seems to just have a chip on the shoulder about it and not accepting it as life.

Not precious at all and hugely dismissive of you to accuse him of having a chip on his shoulder. You have no idea nor do I) what his relationship with his father was like.

user2011

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

Tiz all I can do.

jayo26

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Frankly i wouldn't blame him really for wanting Memphis on his jersey.

Nope loads of footballers are same, press making a deal of it if you ask me. Jordi was one in the past didnt want his dads surname because it put him under extra pressure different reasons then memphis but his choice..

The Moldy Gowl

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Frankly i wouldn't blame him really for wanting Memphis on his jersey.

What's the tldr version of the story?
Thought it was his father walked out early or something?
Can he not change his name by deed poll??

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I think that's being a bit precious. A lot of people's fathers are gowls. Seems to just have a chip on the shoulder about it and not accepting it as life.

If Hernandez can have "Chicharito" on the back, then I think it's fair enough that Memphis uses one of his actual names.

The Moldy Gowl

adox wrote: »

Not precious at all and hugely dismissive of you to accuse him of having a chip on his shoulder. You have no idea nor do I) what his relationship with his father was like.

Yeah. Probably dismissive of me alright.
My ill formed opinion is that is sounds childish.

Lithium93_

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

What's the tldr version of the story?
Thought it was his father walked out early or something?
Can he not change his name by deed poll??

Well according to his Wikipedia page (not entirely reliable),

He plays only under his given name to spite his absent father

The Moldy Gowl

baz2009 wrote: »

If Hernandez can have "Chicharito" on the back, then I think it's fair enough that Memphis uses one of his actual names.

I'm not on about choosing a name or a nickname for the shirt.

pmasterson95

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Can he not change his name by deed poll??

Or maybe you could just call him Memphis its only 2 extra letters to type compared to Depay?

MythicalMadMan

Before or after games Memphis can be called what he likes but during games he will get one of a few names from me varying from useless c**t to f**cking legend

TheMilkyPirate

I just think of elvis when I see depay, Between calling him memphis and those massive sideburns..

Giggsy11

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I think that's being a bit precious. A lot of people's fathers are gowls. Seems to just have a chip on the shoulder about it and not accepting it as life.

Why should he accept it? If he has chance to change something he doesn't like, why should he accept?

Trigger

Ducker is adamant that we are not in for Otamendi, he has been saying he is 100% positive we won't don't want him. If you go thru his timeline he is saying it a good while

https://twitter.com/DuckerTheTimes/status/622250544636149760

adox

astradave wrote: »

Ducker is adamant that we are not in for Otamendi, he has been saying he is 100% positive we won't don't want him. If you go thru his timeline he is saying it a good while

https://twitter.com/DuckerTheTimes/status/622250544636149760

That will be very disappointing if true(can't keep track of who and who aren't the more reliable journalists when it comes to Utd).

Son Of A Vidic

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

Yes that's right, the greatest club manager ever decided to ruin his beloved club because he had something to prove. Which is a bit like saying...

I think I'll let my brother borrow my beloved car tomorrow, so he can go and write it off. That way everyone will know I am a much better driver than him.


Give us a break.

Lithium93_

JamboMac wrote: »

He was chosen by Alex because he knew he would fail and Alex would be missed all the more so not that much a surprise.

This is the STUPIDEST thing i have ever read.

PhlegmyMoses

Stop quoting that ****. It's tinfoil hat stuff that is best ignored.

Anyway, everyone knows that Moyes was only a small part of Fergie's plan to cement his legacy. His real plan was to not replace the midfield, deliberately chase out Pogba, then install Moyes as a puppet to take the club down from the inside.

LVG and Woodward are not part of the plan, so expect assassinations. Think about it. They are in the US right now, Kennedy was assassinated in the US. Woodward, LVG, Fergie. 3 people. A triangle has 3 sides. Masons. Illuminati. Chemtrails. Controlled explosions. Jet fuel can't melt through steel girders. Seriously, wake up sheeple.

homerjay2005

Lithium93_ wrote: »

This is the STUPIDEST thing i have ever read.

Sadly it's not the first time I've heard it tho.

Moyes got the job because Fergie believed he was the best man for it, something that really is still baffling me to this day

Julez

What I loved about that game was we played a completely different 11 in both halves, and it's hard to decide which of the two very good centre midfield pairs were better!!

Lord TSC

adox wrote: »

That will be very disappointing if true(can't keep track of who and who aren't the more reliable journalists when it comes to Utd).

My stance is unless all the English journalists are reporting it at the same time, ignore them, cause they don't have a clue and "exclusives" really aren't worth anything right now from them.

Giggsy11

astradave wrote: »

Chico getting another chance to prove himself.

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/622279721804410880

Good. He is good back up to have. Rooney said Van Gaal wants his striker to stretch defense and drag CBs for midfielders to occupy. Also he doesn't care about number of touches, just tactical movement and goals. That's something Hernandez offers.

Rossi IRL

So whats everybody top performers from the game.

I thought sneiderlin was the stand out player in the game.

Then januzaj and pereira excited me when they came on. Wouldnt mind seeing them 2 and depay play together in 1 of the games.

Lingard did decent aswell

Johnstone is our new number 2, cheerio lindergaard

Giggsy11

Rossi IRL wrote: »

So whats everybody top performers from the game.

I thought sneiderlin was the stand out player in the game.

Then januzaj and pereira excited me when they came on. Wouldnt mind seeing them 2 and depay play together in 1 of the games.

Lingard did decent aswell

Johnstone is our new number 2, cheerio lindergaard

Schneiderlin was class. His defensive contribution and passing range was very good.

In the second half, loved Schweinsteiger's game. His composure and ability to retain possession was class. Also his passing was joy to watch.

Apart from that, like you said enjoyed pereira's game.

Mikeyt086

I stayed up to watch the match last night, here are my thoughts:

Sam Johnstone: Will now be referred to as Manuel Johnstone. Nutter off his line.

Matteo Darmian: Solid, you can tell he's a defend first right-back, read opponent runs in behind really well.

Morgan Schneiderlin: Damn, he's seriously impressive in the middle. He prowls, he knows where the ball is going, and his athleticism surprised me.

Bastian Der Fußballgott: Literally every touch he takes on the ball is fashioned by Ming Dynasty Chinese silk. He does this little shimmy when he receives the ball which buys him an extra second and I was absolutely swooning every time he touched the ball. Such a high quality player, you could tell the kids around him were delighted to play with him.

Memphis Depay: Extremely creative and confident, always shows for the ball, had a moan at Young and Rooney for not giving it early enough which I was delighted to see, he's scared of nothing.

Andreas Pereira: This kid looked ****ing excellent. Was our biggest threat in the second half, seriously promising performance. High hopes for him.

Defo worth staying up for as I had feck all to do today.

Liam O

How was Moyes supposed to react with the world falling down around him? He was constantly talking about the need to do better. He wasn't stupid, LVG could only finish with a few more points with very significant investment. Let's not kid ourselves, if Liverpool didn't sell Suarez then United aren't in the CL again. Whatever LVG achieves from here, it may surpass what Moyes would have achieved long term but nobody can tell me Moyes would have started last season nearly as badly without addressing CB properly and a bunch of other things. The club needed a fall guy though and he made sense, even though I'd say he'd have been fairly ruthless in Summer myself.

Mars Bar

It's been bugging me for ages as to who Woodward looked like and then it dawned on me, he looks like Ian Hislop.

Giggsy11

Liam O wrote: »

How was Moyes supposed to react with the world falling down around him? He was constantly talking about the need to do better. He wasn't stupid, LVG could only finish with a few more points with very significant investment. Let's not kid ourselves, if Liverpool didn't sell Suarez then United aren't in the CL again. Whatever LVG achieves from here, it may surpass what Moyes would have achieved long term but nobody can tell me Moyes would have started last season nearly as badly without addressing CB properly and a bunch of other things. The club needed a fall guy though and he made sense, even though I'd say he'd have been fairly ruthless in Summer myself.

It's boring man. Move on. It's been done to death. Moyes was clueless and couldn't even make a proper decision.

IamtheWalrus

Liam O wrote: »

How was Moyes supposed to react with the world falling down around him? He was constantly talking about the need to do better. He wasn't stupid, LVG could only finish with a few more points with very significant investment. Let's not kid ourselves, if Liverpool didn't sell Suarez then United aren't in the CL again. Whatever LVG achieves from here, it may surpass what Moyes would have achieved long term but nobody can tell me Moyes would have started last season nearly as badly without addressing CB properly and a bunch of other things. The club needed a fall guy though and he made sense, even though I'd say he'd have been fairly ruthless in Summer myself.

LVG is better at attracting quality footballers.

JamboMac

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Bollox, that is.

He was the wrong choice but I think it is rather insulting to SAF to claim he deliberately looked to f*ck united over.

Screwed not so much but you think a man with ego like Alex wanted somebody like Jose to come behind and carry on then your just kidding yourself. Alex wanted to be appreciated, if I knew he was wrong as soon as he was mentioned as the new manager you can guarantee Alex did or you can believe that people would never dream of doing such a thing it's your choice.

chips1234

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I stayed up to watch the match last night, here are my thoughts:

Sam Johnstone: Will now be referred to as Manuel Johnstone. Nutter off his line.

Matteo Darmian: Solid, you can tell he's a defend first right-back, read opponent runs in behind really well.

Morgan Schneiderlin: Damn, he's seriously impressive in the middle. He prowls, he knows where the ball is going, and his athleticism surprised me.

Bastian Der Fußballgott: Literally every touch he takes on the ball is fashioned by Ming Dynasty Chinese silk. He does this little shimmy when he receives the ball which buys him an extra second and I was absolutely swooning every time he touched the ball. Such a high quality player, you could tell the kids around him were delighted to play with him.

Memphis Depay: Extremely creative and confident, always shows for the ball, had a moan at Young and Rooney for not giving it early enough which I was delighted to see, he's scared of nothing.

Andreas Pereira: This kid looked ****ing excellent. Was our biggest threat in the second half, seriously promising performance. High hopes for him.

Defo worth staying up for as I had feck all to do today.

schweinsteigers distribution was a thing of beauty aswell, dont think he misplaced one pass, kept it simple, and was stong as an ox on the ball too, loved watching him play. hope we see/ we probably will see different combinations of midfield pairings on the tour. bring on the next match.

jayo26

JamboMac wrote: »

Screwed not so much but you think a man with ego like Alex wanted somebody like Jose to come behind and carry on then your just kidding yourself. Alex wanted to be appreciated, if I knew he was wrong as soon as he was mentioned as the new manager you can guarantee Alex did or you can believe that people would never dream of doing such a thing it's your choice.

Get a grip he is one of the most succesful managers in club football he dont need to do something like that to be appreciated he has a stand named after him and a statue.

He gave his input on replacing his successor he got it wrong and we move on because the good he did for the club will always outweigh the few mistakes he mad.

If anything it showed the club needed to be rebuilt from the ground up if we had to finish second or third that season i doubt we would see the investment like we are seen now in the squad.

jayo26

chips1234 wrote: »

schweinsteigers distribution was a thing of beauty aswell, dont think he misplaced one pass, kept it simple, and was stong as an ox on the ball too, loved watching him play. hope we see/ we probably will see different combinations of midfield pairings on the tour. bring on the next match.

Only thing i could say bad about bastian was he threw about himself too much and as someone else said he would pro long his carrer if he didnt but this will be sorted out i think. If he had schneiderlin beside him it would of been better then herrera.

JamboMac

jayo26 wrote: »

Get a grip he is one of the most succesful managers in club football he dont need to do something like that to be appreciated he has a stand named after him and a statue.

He gave his input on replacing his successor he got it wrong and we move on because the good he did for the club will always outweigh the few mistakes he mad.

If anything it showed the club needed to be rebuilt from the ground up if we had to finish second or third that season i doubt we would see the investment like we are seen now in the squad.

If you think I'm holding it against him I'm not, I'm just not that naive either.