Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

MythicalMadMan

ShaneU wrote: »

Zlatan gone from 25/1 to 5/2 to join United in the last few hours

He is still 20/1 with Unibet, bookies wont take much money on these markets and they usually just use it as a vessel to advertise.

I.e by tweeting about price crashes that mean nothing 95% of the time

Trigger

ShaneU wrote: »

Zlatan gone from 25/1 to 5/2 to join United in the last few hours

No way zlatan will be coming to United. He has history with LVG and there is no way LVG would put up with his ego.

Maximus Alexander

ShaneU wrote: »

Zlatan gone from 25/1 to 5/2 to join United in the last few hours

Perfect advertisement for why odds mean absolutely nothing when it comes to transfers.

Tugboats

http://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/life-size-statue-munich-air-9710750#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Gregg is getting a statue up in the North

nullzero

Boskowski wrote: »

Huh? I thought we were talking about Rooney and Mueller and not about English and German players. At least I was. But if it makes you happy...

I'm assuming that is the royal "we". You were making statements, which were in the case of Rooney incorrect. I'm sure Rooney the person is a perfectly reprehensible character like most spoilt man child professional footballers are but on the pitch his performances are at odds with the picture you painted of him. I get it, you're a Bundesliga fan etc... But in this case you're wrong, Rooney and Muller are fine players but to say that Rooney isn't in the same class as Muller is to flatter Muller a little too much.

Paddy Dreadful

Where would a good place to watch United games in NYC? Ill probably be over there for the 2nd leg of the champions league qualifier play off?

Backstreet Moyes

Tugboats wrote: »

What keeper would you buy? De Gea was superman for the last two years and we achieved nothing. I don't think the team will suffer with his replacement

De Gea in your words was like superman the last two years. Yet in your following sentence we won't suffer when he is replaced.

That makes no sense unless two different people wrote each sentence.

Backstreet Moyes

Stuck going to the cinema Saturday so she will leave me go out Sunday for the hurling.

I don't have MUTV is their anywhere i could watch the full highlights of the match from around half 11 or 12 on Saturday night?

I doubt it but hoping to see a full pre season game.

yermandan

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The Moldy Gowl

Nuts102 wrote: »

Stuck going to the cinema Saturday so she will leave me go out Sunday for the hurling.

I don't have MUTV is their anywhere i could watch the full highlights of the match from around half 11 or 12 on Saturday night?

I doubt it but hoping to see a full pre season game.

Reddit.

The Moldy Gowl

Robson99 wrote: »

As the saying goes Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. But then again I think you thrive on having silly replies

Oooohhhhh. Matron.

Be nice mr snarky pants.

Lovely Bloke

Saw an ad for the new season on Sky there yesterday, they have Gary Neville saying the line "We go again".

Trigger

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Oooohhhhh. Matron.

Be nice mr snarky pants.

Oh I do love me some Carry on.

I also like Oscar Wilde. "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence"

That new job of yours Gowl? Is it with NASA? smart fecker

paulbok

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Saw an ad for the new season on Sky there yesterday, they have Gary Neville saying the line "We go again".

Just seen it.
Wonder did he fall on his arsé on the way home?

Mitch Connor

So todays rumours have Ramos staying (100% staying according to Rafa) and Otamendi staying ebcause he has enrolled his kids in school in Valencia. PSG have backed out of a move for ADM cause woodward won't play nice. No word on Pedro or any other forward players.

beno619

Muller is the new Coleman it seems, the notion that he's a level above Rooney is lunacy.

jayo26

If Rooney is going to be discussed here for The day again I'm just gonna do some work. Still have a headache after them 40 odd pages yesterday.

Looks like Vidal deal to Bayern is confirmed. Bastian probably knew this would happen.

jayo26

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So todays rumours have Ramos staying (100% staying according to Rafa) and Otamendi staying ebcause he has enrolled his kids in school in Valencia. PSG have backed out of a move for ADM cause woodward won't play nice. No word on Pedro or any other forward players.

We don't like nice Woodward we want him pissing off every club in Europe. Keep it up ed.

Tugboats

Nuts102 wrote: »

De Gea in your words was like superman the last two years. Yet in your following sentence we won't suffer when he is replaced.

That makes no sense unless two different people wrote each sentence.

We finished 4th with Superman last season. We won't do worse than that this season so he won't really be missed.

homerjay2005

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So todays rumours have Ramos staying (100% staying according to Rafa) and Otamendi staying ebcause he has enrolled his kids in school in Valencia. PSG have backed out of a move for ADM cause woodward won't play nice. No word on Pedro or any other forward players.

would be a disaster if we missed out on Otamendi now, maybe due to pining all our hopes on Ramos?

Alf Veedersane

Tugboats wrote: »

We finished 4th with Superman last season. We won't do worse than that this season so he won't really be missed.

We would have finished further down the table with a lesser keeper.

Your contention that a poor keeper won't have a negative impact is astonishing, assuming you actually believe it.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

Muller is the new Coleman it seems, the notion that he's a level above Rooney is lunacy.

not sure i'd say lunacy. i'd probably put muller on par with rooney 4 years ago at 25 going on 26 they have similar goal scoring records bar 1 or 2 seasons for rooney with muller never being munichs main striker.

i'm not saying push rooney aside for him or anything but i think they are about the same level a player

Boskowski

beno619 wrote: »

Muller is the new Coleman it seems, the notion that he's a level above Rooney is lunacy.

Futile discussion anyway as confirmed by Rummenigge last night.

Mitch Connor

homerjay2005 wrote: »

would be a disaster if we missed out on Otamendi now, maybe due to pining all our hopes on Ramos?

Have said from the start that I felt Ramos was a no-go - that we should sign Otamendi (who I think would suit our actual needs better) and forget about Ramos (or get both).

Wouldn't say we have missed out on him though, enrolling his kids in school is hardly setting his stay in stone, would be something he should do just in case he doesn't move.

I reckon we could still get him signed, if we want to sign him.

Tugboats

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

We would have finished further down the table with a lesser keeper.

Your contention that a poor keeper won't have a negative impact is astonishing, assuming you actually believe it.

Cillessen isn't a poor keeper. This season we'll finish 4th or maybe squeeze 3rd with or without De Gea. No better or worse than that

Mitch Connor

Boskowski wrote: »

Futile discussion anyway as confirmed by Rummenigge last night.

I reckon United are interested, but that all the talk of bids is coming from Bayern so they can act the big man over it.

homerjay2005

beno619 wrote: »

Muller is the new Coleman it seems, the notion that he's a level above Rooney is lunacy.

Muller is a really good player, but the over rating of him by certain United fans since we were linked with him, is crazy.

he certainly is not worth the money being quoted. for a striker with that money, you'd need him scoring goals at Aguero levels and at the moment, he is below that.

Cookiemunster

homerjay2005 wrote: »

would be a disaster if we missed out on Otamendi now, maybe due to pining all our hopes on Ramos?

We're going to miss out on Otamendi because we were never in for him according to Ducker and Sid Lowe.

Trigger

Did Young not get a new contract recently, I thought he did.. There is a few places going that he us unsure of his future as there is not contract on the table for him.

Alf Veedersane

homerjay2005 wrote: »

for a striker with that money, you'd need him scoring goals at Aguero levels and at the moment, he is below that.

He's not a striker.

beno619

magnumbud wrote: »

not sure i'd say lunacy. i'd probably put muller on par with rooney 4 years ago at 25 going on 26 they have similar goal scoring records bar 1 or 2 seasons for rooney with muller never being munichs main striker.

i'm not saying push rooney aside for him or anything but i think they are about the same level a player

I disagree, at his best Muller has never hit the heights Rooney has when he's lead the line.

I'd also say that Muller's competition to lead the line at Munich would'nt compare with RVN, Ronaldo or RVP.

I believe Muller's World Cup record over-inflates people's opinion of him, wouldn't mind us signing him but not as an ADM's replacement and certainly not at the ridiculous €100M fee being mentioned.

Tugboats

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Muller is a really good player, but the over rating of him by certain United fans since we were linked with him, is crazy.

he certainly is not worth the money being quoted. for a striker with that money, you'd need him scoring goals at Aguero levels and at the moment, he is below that.

If he's better than what we have does it really matter how much he costs? We have loads of money. Since you're so concerned about value and club finances how do you feel about the club paying world class wages for our current forward? If he fails to hit the Aguero level what should the club do about it? Should they not free up those wages and give it to someone better?

beno619

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

He's not a striker.

There's the problem, he's not a better forward than Rooney, not a better winger than AMD and not a better 10 than Mata.

But people think we should blow €100M on him ?

bangkok

Tugboats wrote: »

If he's better than what we have does it really matter how much he costs? We have loads of money. Since you're so concerned about value and club finances how do you feel about the club paying world class wages for our current forward? If he fails to hit the Aguero level what should the club do about it? Should they not free up those wages and give it to someone better?

just going to leave this hear Tugboy and let you have a look at it for the morning..

irishchris

astradave wrote: »

Did Young not get a new contract recently, I thought he did.. There is a few places going that he us unsure of his future as there is not contract on the table for him.

No his contract is up next summer meaning he can sign a precontract with someone from January. Seems he really wants new contract but club are not forecoming with one (yet)

Ed The Equalizer

bangkok wrote: »

just going to leave this hear Tugboy and let you have a look at it for the morning..

So you're saying Aguero scores a goal from open play every 138 mins, but Rooney only scores one every 223 mins?

dahat

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I reckon United are interested, but that all the talk of bids is coming from Bayern so they can act the big man over it.

That is bang on the money, trying to save face after the Bastian sale, fans were horrified after that.

magnumbud

beno619 wrote: »

I disagree, at his best Muller has never hit the heights Rooney has when he's lead the line.

I'd also say that Muller's competition to lead the line at Munich would'nt compare with RVN, Ronaldo or RVP.

I believe Muller's World Cup record over-inflates people's opinion of him, wouldn't mind us signing him but not as an ADM's replacement and certainly not at the ridiculous €100M fee being mentioned.

the only 2 seasons he has done much better than muller were seasons were he had no real competition

Juan8

Ed The Equalizer wrote: »

So you're saying Aguero scores a goal from open play every 138 mins, but Rooney only scores one every 223 mins?

It's old as well and Aguero has done better since

brinty

oh god Tugboats is off again...

Where's TheDoc for a fight, no better man to sort him out

Bangkok, for all my moaning about you, you were never as bad as this guy. I'd take your summer of ITK over one day of this guy...

Alf Veedersane

beno619 wrote: »

There's the problem, he's not a better forward than Rooney, not a better winger than AMD and not a better 10 than Mata.

But people think we should blow €100M on him ?

The money is irrelevant unless it means they can't sign someone else that they might have done if they spent less.

And you're comparing with players at the club in particular roles. ADM doesn't really operate as a winger anyway. And he doesn't seem to want to play in Manchester.

If you're asking me if Muller would make a stronger first team, then I can't see why that wouldn't be the case.

DrPhilG

Not fixing the defence is the new not fixing the midfield.

Lol

Alf Veedersane

beno619 wrote: »

I disagree, at his best Muller has never hit the heights Rooney has when he's lead the line.

I'd also say that Muller's competition to lead the line at Munich would'nt compare with RVN, Ronaldo or RVP.

This is apples and oranges.

He doesn't lead the line.

magnumbud

DrPhilG wrote: »

Not fixing the defence is the new not fixing the midfield.

Lol

we will just have to outscore everyone like we did in fergies last year

Mitch Connor

magnumbud wrote: »

we will just have to outscore everyone like we did in fergies last year

Do you think we can do that with Rooney as our main goal threat?:P

bangkok

brinty wrote: »

oh god Tugboats is off again...

Where's TheDoc for a fight, no better man to sort him out

Bangkok, for all my moaning about you, you were never as bad as this guy. I'd take your summer of ITK over one day of this guy...

my "summer" of ITK was only the Kroos deal in fairness..

By the way did anyone here apply for any of the jobs I listed for Old Trafford or Carrington?

homerjay2005

DrPhilG wrote: »

Not fixing the defence is the new not fixing the midfield.

Lol

in fairness we have signed Darmian, Rojo, Daley Blind and Shaw in the space of 10 months - thats 4 defenders...more is needed, but we cant exactly say we are not fixing it.

Tugboats

bangkok wrote: »

just going to leave this hear Tugboy and let you have a look at it for the morning..

Why are you posting misleading information? You did the same yesterday when you said Rooney won everything in the game? It makes you look a bit silly

Aguero PL goals 78
Rooney PL goals 68

Rooney will fall even further behind over the next few seasons

brinty

bangkok wrote: »

my "summer" of ITK was only the Kroos deal in fairness..

By the way did anyone here apply for any of the jobs I listed for Old Trafford or Carrington?

Your friend in Turin????

Yep I applied

Currently sitting in my plush office overlooking Carrington

pmasterson95

Tugboats wrote: »

Why are you posting misleading information? You did the same yesterday when you said Rooney won everything in the game? It makes you look a bit silly

Aguero PL goals 78
Rooney PL goals 68

Rooney will fall even further behind over the next few seasons

And how many games did Aguero play CM?