Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

magnumbud

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Would Darmian and Schneiderlin appease Utd fans if that was it? Underwhelming on paper but considering how poor the big names were last season, maybe solid players are what Utd need.

not with what looks likely to be very limited options up front(what if rooney gets a serious injury?) and we have to sign at least 1 cb

pmasterson95

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Would Darmian and Schneiderlin appease Utd fans if that was it? Underwhelming on paper but considering how poor the big names were last season, maybe solid players are what Utd need.

At the very least need a striker on top of them and maybe its "ok"

Trigger

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Would Darmian and Schneiderlin appease Utd fans if that was it? Underwhelming on paper but considering how poor the big names were last season, maybe solid players are what Utd need.

No, we need a CB, i feel that is the priority this summer, by all accounts Otemendi is close and he would be ideal. So would Ramos mind you

magnumbud

astradave wrote: »

No, we need a CB, i feel that is the priority this summer, by all accounts Otemendi is close and he would be ideal. So would Ramos mind you

i will not settle for less than both :pac:

Maximus Alexander

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think I saw that picture before

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Pogba wasn't at Utd very long. Just when people began to hype him, he left.

Plenty of Utd players have been hyped up over the last decade. Tosic and guys like that.

Also looking at it there, none of the top teams have a really good youth system.

It's really important for clubs like Southampton in terms of finances but you can't predict the ceiling of a player when they're a teenager.

Utd need world class players. They can also afford world class players.

I think expecting more than say 2 in a generation to come though the academy is a bit wishful.

I guess Barca are the only team to have really have a youth system contribute the finished product but along with players like Xavi and Pique, you've a bunch like Puyol, Messi, Iniesta etc who were all signed as teenagers.

Al Capwned

Deleted User wrote: »

I think I saw that picture before

dirtybastard.jpg

Jaaaysus.

bangkok

Lord TSC wrote: »

Thats brilliant for us, I think; it gives us some weight in negotiations. We can be awkward as **** cause it's obvious the pressure is on Perez to deliver now...

To be honest I doubt Perez gives a ****. Real Madrid is like the bounty hunter, they always get their man.

They even had a stage in place for the unveiling of bale, 1 week before he even signed which really pissed Spurs off and they were willing to sell to us at the time because of it, that's the time we bid 100m but bale had his heart set on madrid

irishfeen

"Its Getting Serious!"
"Manchester United offer for Schweinsteiger"



Probably shíte but BILD in Germany running this now about a "concrete" offer.

Trigger

irishfeen wrote: »

"Its Getting Serious!"
"Manchester United offer for Schweinsteiger"



Probably shíte but BILD in Germany running this now about a "concrete" offer.

https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/619206950937579521

TheDoc

Sky had a story there last hour that he is flattered by interest, and due to meet with Bayern officials over weekend

TheDoc

TheDoc wrote: »

Sky had a story there last hour that he is flattered by interest, and due to meet with Bayern officials over weekend

Batting his eyelids at us the little temptress

TheDoc

Deleted User wrote: »

Batting his eyelids at us the little temptress

Freak my **** if we got him

hufpc8w3adnk65

MythicalMadMan wrote: »

Are you Futureguys arch-nemesis

Ha ha it's looking that way!



I wonder if I buy a city jersey with Aguero on it what would happen?

The Moldy Gowl

On a scale of 1 to ayran, Bastian is pretty ayran.
Would be a great 1st German.

The Moldy Gowl

Are any of ye miserable bastards staying up to watch the pre season games?

I might get up for the one on the weekday before work

Rossi IRL

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

On a scale of 1 to ayran, Bastian is pretty ayran.
Would be a great 1st German.

1st german at 1st team maybe, but Ron Robert Zieler turned out to be fairly good in the bundes league but was just never given a chance at united.

Backstreet Moyes

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Are any of ye miserable bastards staying up to watch the pre season games?

I might get up for the one on the weekday before work

What time they starting roughly this year?

The Moldy Gowl

Nuts102 wrote: »

What time they starting roughly this year?

4:10am for 3 of them. So it's good timing for before work. Over before 7

9pm for the barca.

Mitch Connor

Would like us to sign Schweinsteiger - but only if it is in addition to Schneiderlin. I fear the delay in moving on Schneiderlin is because it is either him or Schweinsteiger, with the club prioritising Schweinsteiger - and I reckon Schneiderlin would be the better buy for United if it is one or the other.

I also reckon BS would be a shorter term buy - I reckon we'd get two seasons out of him before his level dropped below standard.

Adding BS and MS to the midfielder would really complete our midfield needs, imo.

Mitch Connor

Nuts102 wrote: »

What time they starting roughly this year?

two start at 4am, one at 2am and one at 9pm, I think

RobertKK

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Are any of ye miserable bastards staying up to watch the pre season games?

I might get up for the one on the weekday before work

Yes, but I will go to bed and get up for them, can milk the cows when the 4am matches are over.
is there one at 2am?
Edit ok for the 2am, get some sleep, with alarm set, then coffee and watch the game, then some more sleep...

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Would like us to sign Schweinsteiger - but only if it is in addition to Schneiderlin. I fear the delay in moving on Schneiderlin is because it is either him or Schweinsteiger, with the club prioritising Schweinsteiger - and I reckon Schneiderlin would be the better buy for United if it is one or the other.

I also reckon BS would be a shorter term buy - I reckon we'd get two seasons out of him before his level dropped below standard.

Adding BS and MS to the midfielder would really complete our midfield needs, imo.

Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlan would be an immense base, to let Herrera, Depay, Mata and Rooney go cause absolute immense damage.

Schweinsteiger likes to get in the mix also. I'd imagine delays arn't regarding one or the other, team could do with both.

Roquentin

would love to see both of them

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlan would be an immense base, to let Herrera, Depay, Mata and Rooney go cause absolute immense damage.

Schweinsteiger likes to get in the mix also. I'd imagine delays arn't regarding one or the other, team could do with both.

i agree with what you say - the team could do with both, but I do see rumours that it is one or the other and the priority is BS; it would explain why we are taking so long to go back to Southampton with an offer.

RobertKK

We will sign two CBs, two midfielders, a striker/RW - that is why we are interested in Muller and Bale, for that area, so we will have Mata/??? for that position.
Presume we have Darmian for right back. We have Depay for LW.
Then a goalkeeper.
That is 8 players but then we have let go a lot of players/expected to go.
But LVG has done this kind of thing in the past...

TheDoc

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i agree with what you say - the team could do with both, but I do see rumours that it is one or the other and the priority is BS; it would explain why we are taking so long to go back to Southampton with an offer.

Wonder if maybe there is someone totally not on the press radar that maybe we are dealing with also?

Considering how out of the blue Darmian came? So could be either Schweini or Schneidi, and then a random out of the dark signing

yabadabado

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i agree with what you say - the team could do with both, but I do see rumours that it is one or the other and the priority is BS; it would explain why we are taking so long to go back to Southampton with an offer.

Be very shortsighted of the club to not sign Schneiderlin because they are chasing BS.BS is a fine footballer but would possibly only get 2 seasons from him, the priory should be Schneiderlan,a young replacement for Carrick is needed.
I would love to see both signed ,it really would be a formidable midfield then,a real good mix .

Mitch Connor

TheDoc wrote: »

Wonder if maybe there is someone totally not on the press radar that maybe we are dealing with also?

Considering how out of the blue Darmian came? So could be either Schweini or Schneidi, and then a random out of the dark signing

obviously there could be - no way to tell if they are working on a deal we haven't heard about, because we haven't heard about it!

My gut would say no, but thats a guess.

My assumption is that we are talking to Otamendi, Ramos, Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin - but there could be further backup options we have spoken too - Felipe Anderson, for example, who has been linked a few times.

As for a forward player - we surely have to be talking to someone, if not a few people. Muller, Kane?

Lord TSC

I'd be shocked if there wasn't a striker in advance talks if RVP is out the door.

Roquentin

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'd be shocked if there wasn't a striker in advance talks if RVP is out the door.

i concur

pmasterson95

Rossi IRL wrote: »

1st german at 1st team maybe, but Ron Robert Zieler turned out to be fairly good in the bundes league but was just never given a chance at united.

What ever happened the german midefielder we had at that time aswell. Markus Neuermayr?

MythicalMadMan

MrMac84 wrote: »

Ha ha it's looking that way!



I wonder if I buy a city jersey with Aguero on it what would happen?

Yous setup a pay pal account and Im sure you would easily make double the price of the Jersey from donations.

This forum knows about the magical world of the transfer market and that some fans can bend it to thier will.

Darmian arriving on a train to Manchester has not being lost on us believers

Adamcp898

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'd be shocked if there wasn't a striker in advance talks if RVP is out the door.

Roquentin wrote: »

i concur

"A" striker yes, and even that depends somewhat on the Chico situation, but I'd be surprised if it's a top one.

I think LvG will just want to use one centre forward this season with the likes of Memphis and AdM attacking from wide. And because of that, Rooney will be the main one with anyone else only providing relief.

Would be happy too if that is the case and the bulk of the money is put into two CM's and a CB.

Nalz

Lads we need a clinical finisher.

Chico Rooney and Wilson isn't enough, regardless what system we play imo

Who though? I'd take one of the Belgian lads. Lukaku or Benteke

Roquentin

Trilla wrote: »

Lads we need a clinical finisher.

Chico Rooney and Wilson isn't enough, regardless what system we play imo

Who though? I'd take one of the Belgian lads. Lukaku or Benteke

benteke or kane id say

pmasterson95

Last year with no Europe we had 3 strikers that played 20+ matches in League alone

This year with Europe we need only one striker.



That makes sense alright.

pmasterson95

Trilla wrote: »

Lads we need a clinical finisher.

Chico Rooney and Wilson isn't enough, regardless what system we play imo

Who though? I'd take one of the Belgian lads. Lukaku or Benteke

If we bid the 32.5m we could get Benteke no problem.

DM_7

I would be really annoyed if Schneiderlin is not signed and he ends up at City or Arsenal soon after.

Nalz

DM_7 wrote: »

I would be really annoyed if Schneiderlin is not signed and he ends up at City or Arsenal soon after.

Yes

irishchris

Trilla wrote: »

Lads we need a clinical finisher.

Chico Rooney and Wilson isn't enough, regardless what system we play imo

Who though? I'd take one of the Belgian lads. Lukaku or Benteke

There is a striker, a Belgium striker, a bentekkeee............can see us singing his song when he bangs in 20+ goals for united this season but realise I'm in the minority who think he could do a great job for us with his strength,speed and aerial ability

duffman13

pmasterson95 wrote: »

What ever happened the german midefielder we had at that time aswell. Markus Neuermayr?

Quick Google and he is playing for some team from Lichtenstein. Never had much of a career by the looks of it

Mitch Connor

So if we are going for an attacking target - who is there?

Ronaldo - Real won't want to sell and he won't want to leave 11 goals off becoming their leading scorer.
Bale - pet project of the president, but I have heard rumours it could be done, for various reasons.
Muller - Don't see Bayern having any interest in selling Muller for any reason.

Kane - will absolutely be linked, but I can't see us being able to prise him away from Spurs in a timely manner, don't think we would waste the time that would be needed to even have a shot at getting him in.
Benzema - talk that Ronaldo might be pushed central this season, could see Benzema hit the markey, maybe. Would be a great signing.
Cavani - will absolutely be linked, as he has been every window under Woodward. Not a big fan of him myself.
Benteke - Has a relese clause and would jump at the chance to sign for us, but I reckon more likely for Liverpool.
Lukaku - young, a proven goal scorer. I have doubts over his application and attitude; was briefly linked, but from tentative agent talk - so i don't think we are actually interest in him.

Can;t think of anyone else that we would be available, or that we are likely to be linked with.

pmasterson95

duffman13 wrote: »

Quick Google and he us playing for some team from Lichtenstein. Never had much of a career by the looks of it

I thought I was miles off with the spelling and google would fail. I thought he looked good. Suprised thats how his career went tbh.

Mitch Connor

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Last year with no Europe we had 3 strikers that played 20+ matches in League alone

This year with Europe we need only one striker.



That makes sense alright.

who is saying we only need one striker? This straw man argument is used too much. your stats are also misleading.

Firstly, Rooney played a number of games in midfield.
Secondly, a number of games were played with Falcao, Rooney and RVP being shoe-horned into an unbalanced formation.
Thirdly, we ended the season playing a one striker formation - so we only have room for one first choice striker if the formation stays the same (as I hope it does)

so while I have previously said I can't see us buying an elite level striker - I would still argue we need an attacking player - but one that needs to be ok(ish) with playing second fiddle to Rooney in the big games, most of the time.

Cookiemunster

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Last year with no Europe we had 3 strikers that played 20+ matches in League alone

This year with Europe we need only one striker.

That makes sense alright.

Only if you take the pessimestic view and decide that we won't sign a striker before Sep 1st. Most people believe that there's no way RVP is being allowed to leave unless a replacement is already lined up.

I think Benteke would be a great signing tbh, he's a proven PL goal scorer and he'd only get more in a better team.

jayo26

Anyway as I was saying last night there will be no medicals at Carrington today we are going to have 3 of them tomorrow one after the other.... #mysticjay

jayo26

Ernesto Juicy Popgun wrote: »

I think Benteke would be a great signing tbh, he's a proven PL goal scorer and he'd only get more in a better team.

I agree with your interesting observation id go for bentekkers no problem he would get ya well over 20 goals a season been feed balls from the likes of di Maria and Mata and Anders.

irishchris

Mitch Connor wrote: »

who is saying we only need one striker? This straw man argument is used too much. your stats are also misleading.

Firstly, Rooney played a number of games in midfield.
Secondly, a number of games were played with Falcao, Rooney and RVP being shoe-horned into an unbalanced formation.
Thirdly, we ended the season playing a one striker formation - so we only have room for one first choice striker if the formation stays the same (as I hope it does)

so while I have previously said I can't see us buying an elite level striker - I would still argue we need an attacking player - but one that needs to be ok(ish) with playing second fiddle to Rooney in the big games, most of the time.

Agree most likely the STARTING formation will involve rooney as the main lone striker. But when we are 2-0 down or struggling to break down stokes parked bus we will need a front 2 with Wilson just not being good enough quality (yet) imo. Not to mention if/when rooney gets injured we need a high quality frontman to take his place. I dare not mention being 2-0 down and rooney being injured.......