Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

Fenix

Fenix wrote: »

This lineup excites me greatly.

De Gea (I BELIEVE)

Darmian Otamendi Smalling Shaw

Schweinsteiger Schneiderlin Hererra

Di Maria Rooney Depay

A lot needs to happen for that lineup to be realistic, but its far from unrealistic.

Swap the CB's with each other, swap Di Maria and Depay, take Depay out for Mata and you've got the best potential line up if all signings come off I reckon. Depay can come in for any of the front three as he learns his trade and adapts. Could make a great impact with his pace and energy.

fitzer1982

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33491718

BBC are saying we just have to agree the fee

jayo26

Is it bad that i got up early on a saturday morning just to see if sky sports news has any update on bastian??

FutureGuy

I got up early too just to follow up on my promise.

We are not signing Bastian Schweinstiger.

Ladies and gentlemen, have a great fcuking weekend.

Peace out.

jayo26

FutureGuy wrote: »

I got up early too just to follow up on my promise.

We are not signing Bastian Schweinstiger.

Ladies and gentlemen, have a great fcuking weekend.

Peace out.

Thats great i can go back to bed then as we aint gonna sign him.

Nalz

Lads, what's different this time around that people feel this is genuine?

homerjay2005

Deleted User wrote: »

Swap the CB's with each other, swap Di Maria and Depay, take Depay out for Mata and you've got the best potential line up if all signings come off I reckon. Depay can come in for any of the front three as he learns his trade and adapts. Could make a great impact with his pace and energy.

I'd throw depay in and see how he gets on , at the expense of Mata....it's pace we need in that team and hopefully LVG goes all out in this respect.

Lovely Bloke

nothing sorted/announced til Monday imo.

homerjay2005

Trilla wrote: »

Lads, what's different this time around that people feel this is genuine?

Almost every journalist out there has said it's on. The likes of Gundogan and Alves were nowhere near as conclusive.

And your man that broke the darmian story 8 or 9 days ago seems to be saying it's happening also and he has the best reputation out there.

Headshot

I would be a lot more excited about Schneiderlin

Quandary

Headshot wrote: »

I would be a lot more excited about Schneiderlin

I agree.

A carrick replacement is the most important signing we need to make this summer. We have seen what happened to the team last year when Carrick was out.

LVG himself said how important the no.6 position is. there are not a whole lot of players out there that can play the Carrick role naturally and Schneiderlin is one of them, already settled in English football, 24 years old and available for less than £30m.

It really is a no brainer for us, let's hope it gets done.

DM_7

Schneiderlin wouldn't just be a carrick replacement though. He is capable of more than just sitting like Carrick was tasked with. I would have expected Schweinsteiger to take that role with Herrera and Schneiderlin either side of him.

Is Schweinsteiger wasn't signed I would expect Schneiderlin to be the third midfielder alongside Carrick and Herrera.

He might not be signed at all though which would be disappointing now.

jayo26

DM_7 wrote: »

Schneiderlin wouldn't just be a carrick replacement though. He is capable of more than just sitting like Carrick was tasked with. I would have expected Schweinsteiger to take that role with Herrera and Schneiderlin either side of him.

Is Schweinsteiger wasn't signed I would expect Schneiderlin to be the third midfielder alongside Carrick and Herrera.

He might not be signed at all though which would be disappointing now.

Schneiderlin is capable of more then carrick but he is also the best dm in the premiership after matic in my opinion just because he can play more advanced dont mean that he should.

Adamocovic

I think I've said this before but if we sign Schweinsteiger it would be the happiest I've felt about a transfer in a long time!

I know people have their concerns that he'll soon be 31 but I can see him having another 3-4 years before performances start to dip with age. That may not be the long term solution a lot want but would cover VG tenure in charge. He would without doubt improve the team hugely. He could be the vocal leader were missing. I'm still telling myself it won't happen but God it would be awesome if it did.

If I remember correctly the last time I came home to Ireland we agreed a deal with Depay. I travelled home yesterday and Darmian was confirmed to having a medical by VG and talk of Schweinsteiger is more serious now. Hardly a coincidence . Jays us I might try stay here until the tour starts so we get all our signings done before it :P

Kerrydude1981

Apparently Valdes is on his way out of OT and heading to Turkish club Antalyaspor

MagicMarker

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Apparently Valdes is on his way out of OT and heading to Turkish club Antalyaspor

First I've heard of it....

Coat22

Buying pure gold in Schweinsteiger - should have gone after him 5 or 6 years ago.

Short term solution but had to be done (like Ramos at CB) due to Fergusons neglect of both positions for the last 5 years of his reign.

sigmundv

Kerrydude1981 wrote:

Apparently Valdes is on his way out of OT and heading to Turkish club Antalyaspor

I can't believe that Valdes' stock has fallen so much. I'm sad to see him go as he is a great backup to De Gea, but maybe he wants to play first team football.

jayo26

Coat22 wrote: »

Buying pure gold in Schweinsteiger - should have gone after him 5 or 6 years ago.

Short term solution but had to be done (like Ramos at CB) due to Fergusons neglect of both positions for the last 5 years of his reign.

Dont agree with you on cb, fergie signed two of the up and coming english defenders to come in after rio and vidic were done who were also two of the best cb pairings available a few year ago.
Its not fergies fault jones and smalling have been crippled by injuries in the past 2 seasons or they havent came on the way we would of like. People are too quick to jump on thenlets blame fergie bandwagon yehh he didnt leave midfield in the best of conditions but he left the club in a far better state then he got it and that should bever be overlooked.

Lord TSC

MagicMarker wrote: »

First I've heard of it....

Was rumoured a few days back, and apparently croppping back up now. Would imagine if the plan is to keep De Gea for another season, Valdes will want to move on.

UnitedIrishman

Even if (and its a big if) we don't sign Schneiderlin, it'll help us in a major way when Carrick is out although not by playing Schweinsteiger directly in that position. When Carrick was out we lacked a fair bit of physicallity in midfield with Herrera playing beside Blind (and either Mata or Fellaini ahead). Schweinsteiger playing beside Blind with Herrera just ahead is a lot more rounded IMO for when Carrick is out.

All that said I think we'll still sign Schneiderlin when it comes to it although he could be late in the window. It'll get to the point where he'll still be at Southampton and United will be saying to him that his fee is too high etc, and I can see him really pushing to leave then.

UnitedIrishman

jayo26 wrote: »

Dont agree with you on cb, fergie signed two of the up and coming english defenders to come in after rio and vidic were done who were also two of the best cb pairings available a few year ago.
Its not fergies fault jones and smalling have been crippled by injuries in the past 2 seasons or they havent came on the way we would of like. People are too quick to jump on thenlets blame fergie bandwagon yehh he didnt leave midfield in the best of conditions but he left the club in a far better state then he got it and that should bever be overlooked.

I think Fergie underestimated his own abilities as a manager if anything when he left the squad that he did. He felt that squad was good enough to win league titles and had a number of young players who looked like they would be mainstays in the side for years (apart from the midfield). Reality was that he and the staff got a hell of a lot more out of those players than anyone else could.

Chardee MacDennis

Very few transfers make me genuinely jealous. Love Basti, very annoyed he's a united player now.

Great signing, damn you for ruining him for me...

jayo26

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

I think Fergie underestimated his own abilities as a manager if anything when he left the squad that he did. He felt that squad was good enough to win league titles and had a number of young players who looked like they would be mainstays in the side for years (apart from the midfield). Reality was that he and the staff got a hell of a lot more out of those players than anyone else could.

To an extent i agree with you yes but this does not mean that fergie ignored positions he left us with more quality players then bad players its just that some of them were fergies players and didnt want to put in same effort for someone else.

Copper_pipe

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9909797/manchester-united-hold-talks-with-bayern-munich-over-bastian-schweinsteiger

RobertKK

Even though it was extremely unlikely to start with, it is probably even more so now in regards to Muller.

Trigger

Lord TSC wrote: »

Was rumoured a few days back, and apparently croppping back up now. Would imagine if the plan is to keep De Gea for another season, Valdes will want to move on.

:pac:sorry

Trigger

OMG OMG OMG Holy ****
https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/619792745117405184

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/619792257714126848

ParkRunner

Possible strongest 11? Although LVGs love for Fellaini/Blind might see a 3-5-2. I can't see Blind getting half as much game time next season

Darmian Smalling Rojo Shaw

Herrera Schweinsteiger

Di Maria Mata Depay

Rooney

The_Kew_Tour

Still not getting hopes up.

Think God im working get mind off it

Lord TSC

astradave wrote: »

:pac:sorry

I just be like...

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

OMG OMG OMG Holy ****
https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/619792745117405184

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/619792257714126848

My woman keeps asking why am I smiling and getting excited over my phone I think she thinks I'm msging some young one hahahha love it.

KH25

Lads I will be overjoyed if we sign Schweinsteiger. Smashing player, have always been a huge fan. Him and Schneiderlin would be a brilliant summer (plus at least 1 CB)

jayo26

KH25 wrote: »

Lads I will be overjoyed if we sign Schweinsteiger. Smashing player, have always been a huge fan. Him and Schneiderlin would be a brilliant summer (plus at least 1 CB)

Yehh I second this we still need schneiderlin.

MagicIRL

Trigger

jayo26 wrote: »

Yehh I second this we still need schneiderlin.

Well here is some Jamie Jackson to keep you happy

https://twitter.com/JamieJackson___/status/619794836783300608

pmasterson95

jayo26 wrote: »

Yehh I second this we still need schneiderlin.

I'd hope Schweinsteiger is signed to play as a CM rather than a DMC. Schneiderlin is just perfect for us to be the replacement for Carrick.

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Well here is some Jamie Jackson to keep you happy

https://twitter.com/JamieJackson___/status/619794836783300608

Ohhh nooo I cant hold it in its gonna happen.

gosplan

I think that Schneiderlin is overrated by everyone that watches the PL, at least in the eyes of LVG and Wenger.

If either really wanted him, he'd be gone from Southampton by now.

In this matter, I'd tend to trust the expert managers rather than the hype machine that basically elevates the 'best outside the top 4' type players.

Utd don't want Schneiderlin - they want Pogba or Vidal or a young Schweinsteiger.

So get an old Schweinsteiger for a couple of years to buy you time.

Trigger

Poor Darmian being forgotten about already :pac:

onemorechance

BBC have it!

:cool:

Trigger

onemorechance wrote: »

BBC have it!

:cool:

jayo26

gosplan wrote: »

I think that Schneiderlin is overrated by everyone that watches the PL, at least in the eyes of LVG and Wenger.

If either really wanted him, he'd be gone from Southampton by now.

In this matter, I'd tend to trust the expert managers rather than the hype machine that basically elevates the 'best outside the top 4' type players.

Utd don't want Schneiderlin - they want Pogba or Vidal or a young Schweinsteiger.

So get an old Schweinsteiger for a couple of years to buy you time.

Get out and close the door behind you

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Poor Darmian being forgotten about already :pac:

Who is this you talk of?

onemorechance

onemorechance wrote: »

BBC have it!

:cool:

DM_7

jayo26 wrote: »

Schneiderlin is capable of more then carrick but he is also the best dm in the premiership after matic in my opinion just because he can play more advanced dont mean that he should.

Specifically in a three man midfield and with the players United have he wouldn't be best used in a holding, sitting role. He can cover a lot of ground and complement people like Carrick, Blind or BS if signed.

I am not saying he would be breaking forward all the time either, he would be performing a more all round game than just sitting.

If United had Gundogen and Herrera then I wouldn't be making the argument, he would be an obvious no 6 then.

It's not worth much more thought now though.

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

I think that Schneiderlin is overrated by everyone that watches the PL, at least in the eyes of LVG and Wenger.

If either really wanted him, he'd be gone from Southampton by now.

In this matter, I'd tend to trust the expert managers rather than the hype machine that basically elevates the 'best outside the top 4' type players.

Utd don't want Schneiderlin - they want Pogba or Vidal or a young Schweinsteiger.

So get an old Schweinsteiger for a couple of years to buy you time.

jayo26

DM_7 wrote: »

Specifically in a three man midfield and with the players United have he wouldn't be best used in a holding, sitting role. He can cover a lot of ground and complement people like Carrick, Blind or BS if signed.

I am not saying he would be breaking forward all the time either, he would be performing a more all round game than just sitting.

If United had Gundogen and Herrera then I wouldn't be making the argument, he would be an obvious no 6 then.

It's not worth much more thought now though.

Fair point mate id be still so happy woth him as a dm.

Copper_pipe

I'll be off to Thurles for the hurling soon and I hope too see Bastian has signed when I get home tonight :P

Luimneach abu!

keith16

Copper_pipe wrote: »

I'll be off to Thurles for the hurling soon and I hope too see Bastian has signed when I get home tonight :P

Luimneach abu!

Limerick in for him too?