Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

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pmasterson95

RobertKK wrote: »

Januzaj will be converted into a striker, and we will have Rooney and Wilson, so that just leaves ???? for who makes up the 4 strikers that we will use.

What makes Januzaj a striker? Has he played there underage?

bucketybuck

RobertKK wrote: »

so that just leaves ???? for who makes up the 4 strikers that we will use.

???? is a pretty good summation of our transfer policies these days.

Mitch Connor

pmasterson95 wrote: »

What makes Januzaj a striker? Has he played there underage?

played there a good bit fir the u21 side

pmasterson95

Mitch Connor wrote: »

played there a good bit fir the u21 side

Ah I wasnt sure. Cheers!

Headshot

RVP deserves alot better than Turkey. Hopefully thats nonsense

RobertKK

pmasterson95 wrote: »

What makes Januzaj a striker? Has he played there underage?

He has in the past.

Januzaj: “I like to play is in midfield or an inside winger but I can also play as a No 10 behind the striker or a No 8, or I can play on the wings as well, last year, I played striker for the reserves, so I can help the team in each position and try to do my best.”

The reserves coach in 2013 played him as a striker and according to Steve Round, the reserves coach told him that number 9 was his best position.
‘And if you ask our Reserves coach [Warren Joyce], who had him last season, he’d say he felt his best position was no.9. He played there for the Reserves."

Winston Payne

Headshot wrote: »

RVP deserves alot better than Turkey. Hopefully thats nonsense

He can barely get around the pitch these days. There's no place for him at the top level anymore.

pmasterson95

RobertKK wrote: »

He has in the past.

Januzaj: “I like to play is in midfield or an inside winger but I can also play as a No 10 behind the striker or a No 8, or I can play on the wings as well, last year, I played striker for the reserves, so I can help the team in each position and try to do my best.”

The reserves coach in 2013 played him as a striker and according to Steve Round, the reserves coach told him that number 9 was his best position.
‘And if you ask our Reserves coach [Warren Joyce], who had him last season, he’d say he felt his best position was no.9. He played there for the Reserves."

I do remember reading that he likes to play in midfield but was unaware of his striker ability.

adox

I don't think Wilson is a real option either. Always saw him as an out and out goal scorer so again not suited to the Van Gaal system. The striker needs to have a bit about his game, no just be a poacher.

Liam O

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Because Nani was so important to the squad last year? We've already added Depay to be a new winger anyway. Wings are fine, DMC and Striker woefully ill equipped.

So Mata, Di Maria, Depay and Young is the optimum group of wingers? Di Maria and Mata are better through the middle and will no doubt get some game time there, what happens out on the right if Mata and ADM get injured? Valencia?! A player like Nani would have been perfect to fill that gap.

Liam O

adox wrote: »

I don't think Wilson is a real option either. Always saw him as an out and out goal scorer so again not suited to the Van Gaal system. The striker needs to have a bit about his game, no just be a poacher.

He's looked very good with the ball at his feet from what I've seen of him. Kind of like a lankier young Michael Owen.

Mitch Connor

adox wrote: »

I don't think Wilson is a real option either. Always saw him as an out and out goal scorer so again not suited to the Van Gaal system. The striker needs to have a bit about his game, no just be a poacher.

his ability to run with the ball from deep and maintain control while being challenged is brilliant - a real strength of his game.

adox

Liam O wrote: »

He's looked very good with the ball at his feet from what I've seen of him. Kind of like a lankier young Michael Owen.

See I always took Owen as an out and out goal scorer and would never dream of playing him on his own up front.

Having said that, I'm basing my opinion on Wilson mostly on his first team appearances and maybe only a handful of reserve games so I may be doing him a slight disservice.

SlickRic

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

We've no chance of signing Benzema, Kane, or Muller imo, so that leaves Lacazette, Higuain, Cavani, and Benteke as realistic options.

You'd get Kane if you really wanted him.

Mitch Connor

SlickRic wrote: »

You'd get Kane if you really wanted him.

For 50millioni plus we should steer well clear.

SlickRic

Mitch Connor wrote: »

For 50millioni plus we should steer well clear.

I agree. But you'd get him if you paid the asking price.

UnitedIrishman

Liam O wrote: »

So Mata, Di Maria, Depay and Young is the optimum group of wingers? Di Maria and Mata are better through the middle and will no doubt get some game time there, what happens out on the right if Mata and ADM get injured? Valencia?! A player like Nani would have been perfect to fill that gap.

I could see Di Maria being used mainly as a winger next year. Doesn't keep possession well enough to play through the middle for us. Tries too many 50-50 passes which can be fine high up the field and when creating from wide but I can't see Van Gaal standing for it in the middle third.

pmasterson95

SlickRic wrote: »

I agree. But you'd get him if you paid the asking price.

Thats not what we do

Backstreet Moyes

Billy86 wrote: »

But he most certainly does not get talked about in the same breath as Ronaldo or Messi, or even anywhere close to them, which was the point of the poster you quoted.

Nobody does so by his logic nobody has fulfilled their potential.

RobertKK

Valencia reported to be signing Garay. More signs Otamendi is moving.
Please be to United...

Nalz

SlickRic wrote: »

I agree. But you'd get him if you paid the asking price.

Every player except Messi has their price imo... I just hope we don't blow too much on Kane if it can be spent elsewhere

Billy86

Nuts102 wrote: »

Nobody does so by his logic nobody has fulfilled their potential.

The difference is that 10 years ago the question was Rooney vs. Messi vs. Ronaldo. An awful lot of people (possibly the most) would gone with Rooney, and Ronaldo backers would have surely been by far the smallest of the three. Rooney was seen as having the same level of potential as those guys, which is only true of a very, very small handful of players over the last decade or so. He has fallen very much short, in no small part because his dedication to his fitness, craft, etc is just not on the level of the other two.

RobertKK

I wonder if we sign both Ramos and Otamendi if Ramos would play both in centre back and also at times at right back?
Maybe we will use Ramos if he signs as the back up for Valencia.
I can see the horror from some as they read this post...

hufpc8w3adnk65

Sources state that Antonia Valencia has taken too using a wiji board too talk too the ghosts of Bobby Moore too help learn the art of defending

nullzero

MrMac84 wrote: »

Sources state that Antonia Valencia has taken too using a wiji board too talk too the ghosts of Bobby Moore too help learn the art of defending

Ouija? Fidelma Healy Eames is that you?

Liam McPoyle

Vidal to Real apparantly done.

If so at least we wont have to spend the summer reading about us signing him. Cracking player but one wonders if LvG/the club were ever seriously interested.

Whatsisname

That is surely the laziest article ever written.

paulbok

MrMac84 wrote: »

Sources state that Antonia Valencia has taken too using a wiji board too talk too the ghosts of Bobby Moore too help learn the art of defending

At the risk of getting a gif showing a joke going over a head, I gotta ask what this running gag is about?

paulbok

Business Cat wrote: »

Vidal to Real apparantly done.

If so at least we wont have to spend the summer reading about us signing him. Cracking player but one wonders if LvG/the club were ever seriously
interested.

Transfer fee and personal terms to be agreed suggests it's far from done yet.

Headshot

**** it Di Maria is injured

markc91

Di Maria's hamstrings gone!

Paul Tergat

****ing hammy it seems

Your Airbag

Di Maria looks injured here in the Copa America final.

Hope its not serious.

Headshot

for the love of god sub him

jayo26

Cancel nani's sale straight away.

Hopefully its not fully gone but dont look good.

bucketybuck

Theres the excuse for another poor season sorted early.

ScummyMan

Looks like a pull rather than a tear, I doubt it's too serious.

adox

bucketybuck wrote: »

Theres the excuse for another poor season sorted early.

Why would you even say that?

Bizzare

Whatsisname

Sanchez is a joy to watch. Still sickened we never seemed to be in for him last summer.

The_Kew_Tour

Might be blessing. He needs a rest anyway.

bucketybuck

adox wrote: »

Why would you even say that?

Bizzare

Meh. Just bored of hearing excuses year after year on a variety of issues. He missed pre-season is always a good one, once he gets a good pre-season he'll be like a new signing etc etc. I look forward to hearing it trotted out if Di Maria underwhelms next season.

Will Di Maria underwhelm next season? Maybe he will maybe he won't. My gut tells me he will, and personally I would accept any offer from the likes of PSG that recoups close to our investment.

Obviously I would still prefer that he is not out injured for long.

RobertKK

I wonder if we go all out for Muller?
LVG seems desperate to sign him.
We will all dance like Thomas Muller if he could be convinced to join...

The_Kew_Tour

If Muller signs I will stop posting for month. Bookmark away.

I would cream the pance if he came.

Lord TSC

Muller said on Instagram today he is going nowhere so wouldn't worry bout him coming anyway

Edit. Never mind, was a fake account....

The Moldy Gowl

bucketybuck wrote: »

Meh. Just bored of hearing excuses year after year on a variety of issues. He missed pre-season is always a good one, once he gets a good pre-season he'll be like a new signing etc etc. I look forward to hearing it trotted out if Di Maria underwhelms next season.

Will Di Maria underwhelm next season? Maybe he will maybe he won't. My gut tells me he will, and personally I would accept any offer from the likes of PSG that recoups close to our investment.

Obviously I would still prefer that he is not out injured for long.

So di Maria is a bad player is what you think?

The Moldy Gowl

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If Muller signs I will stop posting for month. Bookmark away.

I would cream the pance if he came.

If he signs, I'll bring ye all down the canal with cans

Trigger

paulbok wrote: »

At the risk of getting a gif showing a joke going over a head, I gotta ask what this running gag is about?

Just have a search for MythicalMadMan's daily update of Valencia

Nalz

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

So di Maria is a bad player is what you think?

I reckon he thinks he's slightly overrated and might be even a lesser player \ will struggle in the premier league again

I'd somewhat agree with that

RobertKK

Lord TSC wrote: »

Muller said on Instagram today he is going nowhere so wouldn't worry bout him coming anyway

Edit. Never mind, was a fake account....

Going nowhere is what I see too.

But maybe United will try and see if Bayern have a price.