Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

Manutd_4life

Just great.

Di Maria at Utd last season:

-Great form - got injured - played terribly/inconsistently

Di Maria at Copa

-Great form - gets injured - now he comes back to Manchester in bad form

DM_7

Possibility of a new striker signing makes the summer even more interesting and more important. A number of new players in for key positions is needed should be great over a longer time but is nervy in the short term.

Really need likely starters like Rooney, Herrera, Mata, Smalling, Rojo and Carrick to have a good pre season now to give a chance of a strong start to the season. With a number of new players due to come in and needing a bit of time to settle the players already at the club will need to be starting well. Any Di Maria injury is a blow to that.

MagicMarker

Di Maria wouldn't be part of pre season anyway seeing as he played in the Copa, likewise Rojo.

DM_7

MagicMarker wrote: »

Di Maria wouldn't be part of pre season anyway seeing as he played in the Copa, likewise Rojo.

True, they wouldn't have a full pre season but they would still have had an opportunity to get ready for the new season and may not have needed as much game time due to the late end, Di Maria may not get a chance to prepare properly now.

sReq | uTeK

DM_7 wrote: »

True, they wouldn't have a full pre season but they would still have had an opportunity to get ready for the new season and may not have needed as much game time due to the late end, Di Maria may not get a chance to prepare properly now.

We have no idea how bad the injury is ?

On a side note, pastore looks a tidy player.
On another side note. The energy from Chile is unreal

DM_7

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

We have no idea how bad the injury is ?

On a side note, pastore looks a tidy player.
On another side note. The energy from Chile is unreal

Thats why I said may(?) In my second post.

I know my first post said any injury, i should have explained it better as in any injury that would delay his preparation is bad news. My general point was more to do with the number of new players likely to be bought in new positions increased the need for existing players to be well prepared rather than about Di Maria specifically.

Vic Vinegar

Rojo is a bit dodge today.

ScummyMan

Rojo has been really poor at left back.

dahat

Di Marzio is reporting in Twitter that Utd have bid €12m with €3m on add ons for Darmian of Torino. A RB

He is reliable as it gets on Twitter.

nullzero

So Ramos was playing the "I want a bumper contract renewal or I'm off to United" game after all.

Vic Vinegar

nullzero wrote: »

So Ramos was playing the "I want a bumper contract renewal or I'm off to United" game after all.

What happened?

Manutd_4life

nullzero wrote: »

So Ramos was playing the "I want a bumper contract renewal or I'm off to United" game after all.

Care to elaborate....any source????

Brendan Flowers

nullzero wrote: »

So Ramos was playing the "I want a bumper contract renewal or I'm off to United" game after all.

nullzero

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Care to elaborate....any source????

Ssn saying he was interviewed this evening in Spain and he denied any talk of a transfer saying he isn't in negotiations with anyone and when asked if he was staying at Madrid he said "all is very well".

nullzero

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

I know nothing

dahat

nullzero wrote: »

Ssn saying he was interviewed this evening in Spain and he denied any talk of a transfer saying he isn't in negotiations with anyone and when asked if he was staying at Madrid he said "all is very well".

That could mean anything...

nullzero

dahat wrote: »

That could mean anything...

What it doesn't mean is "I'm booked on a flight to Manchester this coming Monday for a medical".

The Moldy Gowl

nullzero wrote: »

Ssn saying he was interviewed this evening in Spain and he denied any talk of a transfer saying he isn't in negotiations with anyone and when asked if he was staying at Madrid he said "all is very well".

Of course he will say that? What idiot wouldn't when questioned on their desire to leave their current job?
Madrid management will know the situation but why do they need to pander to paper tittle tattle?

nullzero

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Of course he will say that? What idiot wouldn't when questioned on their desire to leave their current job?
Madrid management will know the situation but why do they need to pander to paper tittle tattle?

It just seems to be a situation which will come to a predictable conclusion;Spanish footballer linked to United ends up with bumper contract at present club and now feels valued and loved even though he was at apparent loggerheads with clubs officials for months beforehand. United are the go to club for these players, we're they flirting with Chelsea of city they'd be posing with a new strip by this stage.

Rayne Wooney

I thought it was fairly obvious from the start Ramos would stay if he was given the 10 million or whatever he was after

Cookiemunster

nullzero wrote: »

What it doesn't mean is "I'm booked on a flight to Manchester this coming Monday for a medical".

It also doesn't mean "I'm playing Utd to get a better contract" as you seem to think. The likes of Sid Lowe and Graham Hunter are adamant it's nothing to do with money.

nullzero

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I thought it was fairly obvious from the start Ramos would stay if he was given the 10 million or whatever he was after

Precisely, I don't think it's overly cynical to think that way in these situations.

The Moldy Gowl

nullzero wrote: »

It just seems to be a situation which will come to a predictable conclusion;Spanish footballer linked to United ends up with bumper contract at present club and now feels valued and loved even though he was at apparent loggerheads with clubs officials for months beforehand.

And I'm sure that's how the media/drama squad will spin it.

He could have 2 contracts on the table? Madrid and utd, which would not surprise me.

nullzero

Cookiemunster wrote: »

It also doesn't mean "I'm playing Utd to get a better contract" as you seem to think. The likes of Sid Lowe and Graham Hunter are adamant it's nothing to do with money.

Both respectable journalists but I'd be surprised that a player in Ramos' position wouldn't be media savvy and have spin doctors of his own making his struggle with Madrid seem that more realistic

homerjay2005

dahat wrote: »

Di Marzio is reporting in Twitter that Utd have bid €12m with €3m on add ons for Darmian of Torino. A RB

He is reliable as it gets on Twitter.

My boss is actually a Torino fan! He says the message to fans from the club is they won't sell him for a penny less then €20m straight up.

Their chairman is a Daniel Levy type but at the same time is obsessed with sellling player a for big profits.

The Moldy Gowl

nullzero wrote: »

Precisely, I don't think it's overly cynical to think that way in these situations.

Course not. His life is in Madrid. Papers tend to forget they are people with lives outside of work.

nullzero

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

And I'm sure that's how the media/drama squad will spin it.

He could have 2 contracts on the table? Madrid and utd, which would not surprise me.

Most likely scenario. We make mugs of ourselves salivating over the prospect of his arrival by tabling a bid and giving him terms just so he can use it as ammunition to get what's he really wanted all along, a pay rise. I hate us being linked with these people.

markc91

Henriquez just came on for Chile

homerjay2005

While Darmian can play right back, he pretty much played the entire season at left back!

Sure we don't have enough of them do we?!? Seems to be first choice right back now for Italy though.can also play in back 3 and is Italy's best player last few games.seems like he is ours if we pay the €20m

Whatsisname

homerjay2005 wrote: »

While Darmian can play right back, he pretty much played the entire season at left back!

Sure we don't have enough of them do we?!?

Pretty sure he plays RM/LM too. Weird one really.

On a side note, god, I wish we'd sign Vidal.

RobertKK

Ramos was attending a wedding. He was asked if he was in negotiations, he said he wasn't, he was asked if he would be playing with Madrid, he didn't answer.

The Moldy Gowl

nullzero wrote: »

Most likely scenario. We make mugs of ourselves salivating over the prospect of his arrival by tabling a bid and giving him terms just so he can use it as ammunition to get what's he really wanted all along, a pay rise. I hate us being linked with these people.

That's a pessimistic view of it.

Let's say for Arguements sake that a bid had been accepted and we offered him a contract.
I don't think it's such a great shame he signs on with Madrid. He has a pretty nice life over there in the sun and he friends with the squad.

Always feel we, the fans, are always too hard on the club when that happens. Madrid can easily offer him te exact same contract.

DM_7

Read earlier that Ramos was followed to a wedding he was attending for those comments so it was more ambush than scheduled interview.

As it goes I think he stays if Madrid pay him, but still wouldn't think todays comments mean anything that point to staying or anything else.

dahat

homerjay2005 wrote: »

While Darmian can play right back, he pretty much played the entire season at left back!

Sure we don't have enough of them do we?!? Seems to be first choice right back now for Italy though.can also play in back 3 and is Italy's best player last few games.seems like he is ours if we pay the €20m

Seems exactly the type LVG likes.
Found this tweet then...
https://twitter.com/Adz77/status/617447302500904960

DM_7

I forgot about Angelo Henriquez, another trophy for him tonight.

Maybe United should keep him around, he seems to bring luck.

RobertKK

DM_7 wrote: »

I forgot about Angelo Henriquez, another trophy for him tonight.

Maybe United should keep him around, he seems to bring luck.

It would have been nice to see him play on the tour, but he will be given holidays most likely.

Mikeyt086

Darmian at right back would be an extremely exciting signing. I just presumed he would stay in Italy. Really hope that is true.

J. Marston

RobertKK wrote: »

Ronaldo answering questions on Benitiz and Ramos, you get the impression, he is thinking of United and how Benitiz wasn't able to compete with Fergie when he was at United, and with Ramos, he is thinking Ramos might end up at United...

https://twitter.com/Cr7Prince4ever/status/617501445542289408

Full clip. Such a tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwWJe2yX2w

pmasterson95

jayo26 wrote: »

Cancel nani's sale straight away.

Hopefully its not fully gone but dont look good.

Why is Nani apparently our POTY? Just get rid of him ffs.

pmasterson95

dahat wrote: »

Di Marzio is reporting in Twitter that Utd have bid €12m with €3m on add ons for Darmian of Torino. A RB

He is reliable as it gets on Twitter.

And the asking price is 20m

duffman13

J. Marston wrote: »

Full clip. Such a tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwWJe2yX2w

Who Ronaldo or the interviewer. That was literally like a quick fire interview, questions flying at him.

homerjay2005

Today's media reports don't exactly inspire confidence that our summer is going well so far. Baseline is that none of our moves to sign our top targets have worked, LVG not impressed and we no closer to signing players than we were a month ago.

But thankfully those media know nothing!!

DM_7

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Today's media reports don't exactly inspire confidence that our summer is going well so far. Baseline is that none of our moves to sign our top targets have worked, LVG not impressed and we no closer to signing players than we were a month ago.

But thankfully those media know nothing!!

Which reports? lots of reports about on a Sunday morning.

adox

DM_7 wrote: »

Which reports? lots of reports about on a Sunday morning.

Duncan Castle in The Times is saying that Ramos wants to sign a new contract with Madrid and Schneiderlin prefers a move to Arsenal.

Giggsy11

adox wrote: »

Duncan Castle in The Times is saying that Ramos wants to sign a new contract with Madrid and Schneiderlin prefers a move to Arsenal.

Duncan Castle is pathetic WUM. He said Giggs was reserved about Van Gaal when Giggs compared Van Gaal with Fergie.

adox

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Duncan Castle is pathetic WUM. He said Giggs was reserved about Van Gaal when Giggs compared Van Gaal with Fergie.

Yeah I'm not putting any weight behind it. It's just all I could find in relation to answering the question about Homers post.

Adamocovic

I've only seen Darmian with Italy. Mostly World Cup so that's only three games, if I remember right he started at right back for all of those so he clearly must be good.

Anyone follow Italian football able to say how good he is? We need a right back so I would be all for it. Do people who have watched a lot of him reckon he'd be a big improvement to team?

RobertKK

Meanwhile L'Equipe say Schneiderlin confident of move, United is the most likely destination, though Arsenal are still interested.

Spanish papers have been saying Ramos wants to leave, Sid Lowe who interviewed Ramos in the past and he is based in Madrid has said Ramos want to leave.

Duncan Castle is taking a contrarian view.

I think Bayern really want Di Maria, given Robben and Ribery are so injury prone these days. Maybe we get Schweinsteiger.
The thing is if we get two midfielders and are looking for someone up front who can play striker/right side of a front three, it is hard to see where Di Maria fits in. This is why I think he might be used as bait, just as De Gea is seemingly being used for Ramos.
Wonder if it will be De Gea for Ramos, and Di Maria plus cash for Schweinsteiger and Muller?

The interesting thing in this is Adidas own 8.33% of Bayern Munich, yet have done a record breaking deal with United, wonder if they would get involved given Muller and Schweinsteiger at United would make make far more money for them, with Di Maria moving the other way would also sell shirts.
Muller would be the top selling soccer shirt in the world...

UnitedIrishman

Duncan Castle should be banned from being mentioned in this thread. As mentioned above he is just a WUM and everything he says in relation to the club is to piss off United fans. And he throws a lot of shít at the wall hoping some will stick so he looks right.

jayo26

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Why is Nani apparently our POTY? Just get rid of him ffs.

I was been sarcastic mate relax.