Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 - Mod Post in OP 23/07

JamboMac

zerks wrote: »

Liverpool Echo saying Liverpool have decided to activate Benteke's release clause.

They can have him, we can get better.

Pro. F

Adamocovic wrote: »

On the whole clearance thing, you must remember firstly, Vidic is 6 foot 2 I think and Smalling is slightly taller yet. Jones on the other hand is 5 foot 10 (or thereabouts) and spent a lot of his time playing alternating between right back, midfield and centre back which affect the amount of clearances he would have to make.

Jones is about 6'1" according to transfermarkt and whoscored (converting from metric of 185cm).

jayo26

JamboMac wrote: »

They can have him, we can get better.

Are you starting again lol

kstand

zerks wrote: »

Liverpool Echo saying Liverpool have decided to activate Benteke's release clause.

If its true about Marco Reus being available, I'd be going after him.

Rayne Wooney

Benteke off to Liverpool so we can mark him off the list

pmasterson95

Shame about Benteke we definitely missed out there.

UnitedIrishman

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Shame about Benteke we definitely missed out there.

It was never going to happen.

Rayne Wooney

If Van Gaal wanted him he could have got him, passed on him more like

Whether that's a good decision or not remains to be seen

jayo26

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Benteke off to Liverpool so we can mark him off the list

Going to be an excellent signing for them if they get him

UnitedIrishman

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

If Vahttp://b-static.net/vbulletin/images/editor/separator.gifn Gaal wanted him he could have got him, passed on him more like

Whether that's a good decision or not remains to be seen

All the Benteke talk was nonsense from the start IMO. This is how the press does things these days: Liverpool are actually in for a player - better write a story on how United are going to derail their bid by trying to sign him. With no factual evidence. Same happened with Firmino, same with Schneiderlin (IIRC).

I'm still of the opinion that unless Hernandez goes, we won't sign a striker.

JamboMac

jayo26 wrote: »

Are you starting again lol

Seems van gaal shares my opinion on benteke at Utd.

Polo_Mint

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Shame about Benteke we definitely missed out there.

Im glad we didnt sign him

adox

The Vidal story makes me sad.

Billy86

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Im glad we didnt sign him

I would agree, would be a good signing at a lower price like something in the £7mn neighbourhood Villa got him for from Genk. But for £32.5mn, I don't see him justifying that fee and in my opinion there are a lot of question marks over how he would work out at a 'top' team like us (as opposed to being a big fish in a small pond like at Villa), or playing a lot of pass-and-move, possession based football.

I am also not sure how they plan to use him with Sturridge - possibly both ahead of Coutinho in a 4-3-1-2 type of set up, or the injuries from last season for Sturridge could be ongoing/worse than expected. He is definitely a good way from being a like-for-like replacement with Sterling either way.

Polo_Mint

Bring back Hernandez and get in a Young talented Striker and a CB and im happy for this window

homerjay2005

Benteke would be a better signing for them than us.

In fairness to them, they are having a really good Window, ours depends on DDG and Di Maria.

adox

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Bring back Hernandez and get in a Young talented Striker and a CB and im happy for this window

The goal keeping situation still has to be resolved also, thats for sure and there are question marks about Di Marias future.

Polo_Mint

adox wrote: »

The goal keeping situation still has to be resolved also, thats for sure and there are question marks about Di Marias future.

Di Maria I believe will stay at United

Yep we need a goal keeper, forgot about that. We may need 2 keepers

jayo26

JamboMac wrote: »

Seems van gaal shares my opinion on benteke at Utd.

What did he sign bas dost?

I never said united couldn't get better but for 30 million you wont buy another premiership player that has the stats to back up a goal ratio of one in every two games.

If we spent 50 million we would get better but for 30 million there ain't anyone available.

Lovely Bloke

homerjay2005 wrote: »

In fairness to them

:eek::eek:

Adamocovic

Pro. F wrote: »

Jones is about 6'1" according to transfermarkt and whoscored (converting from metric of 185cm).

You're right, I always thought he was was slightly under 6 foot but says he's nearly 6 foot 1, just double checked my other heights and Vidic is actually around 6 foot 3 and Smalling 6 foot 4 according to transfermarkt. It appears I was wrong on all their heights, consistent at least :P.

I still think the height difference plays some what of a factor for clearances and also the point I made about how Jones was regularly switched to RB and CM which would reduce the amount of clearance he would have to make. Last year when he played CB for the entire season he on average made more than Smalling.

I think I've probably talked too much about Phil Jones for some peoples likening so I'll just end it with I like him and hope he does well :pac:

MythicalMadMan

That Dustin Johnson is a real street golfer

adox

homerjay2005 wrote: »

sours depends on DDG and Di Maria.

A very apt typo.

JamboMac

jayo26 wrote: »

What did he sign bas dost?

I never said united couldn't get better but for 30 million you wont buy another premiership player that has the stats to back up a goal ratio of one in every two games.

If we spent 50 million we would get better but for 30 million there ain't anyone available.

Really coz my hole point was bas dost was as good an option but cheaper, it's funny how highly rated benteke is in England but you never hear of any large club around Europe sniffing about him.

Mitch Connor

I really do hope we are going for a striker, even if it is not benteke. Maybe it will be Cavani, or an insane push for Kane. Don't see anyone else as being realistic targets.

pmasterson95

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Bring back Hernandez and get in a Young talented Striker and a CB and im happy for this window

If we include Hernandez we sign another young striker? Do you think Wilson has no future?

JamboMac

Anybody else notice when van gaal was talking about his striker when he came to United, he mentioned wellbeck van persie and so on, except he didn't put Rooney in the striker category.

This was in his press conference yesterday.

homerjay2005

There's going to be a lot of United fans eating humble pie of those Benteke rumours turned out to be false and he signs for us, my Twitter timeline is awash with "he is s*hit anyway"....

MythicalMadMan

adox wrote: »

The Vidal story makes me sad.

ME too.

I'd love if we signed him ,love it.

Cantona's Collars

homerjay2005 wrote: »

There's going to be a lot of United fans eating humble pie of those Benteke rumours turned out to be false and he signs for us, my Twitter timeline is awash with "he is s*hit anyway"....

https://twitter.com/samuelluckhurst/status/621663643453755392

Coat22

JamboMac wrote: »

Anybody else notice when van gaal was talking about his striker when he came to United, he mentioned wellbeck van persie and so on, except he didn't put Rooney in the striker category.

This was in his press conference yesterday.

Did you not see the bombardment I got this morning for quoting VGs comments?

Polo_Mint

pmasterson95 wrote: »

If we include Hernandez we sign another young striker? Do you think Wilson has no future?

I like Wilson but I would prefer he was loaned out to a mid table team for game time.

Cantona's Collars

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/liverpool-legend-jamie-carragher-will-wear-a-man-united-shirt-on-live-tv-tweets/

Jamie Carragher recently lost a bet against Gary Neville which meant he would have to wear a Manchester United shirt.

Gary Neville sent his Sky Sports co-pundit a shirt in the post and the former Man United right back confirmed a date and time of when Jamie Carragher would don the shirt.

The first Sky Sports Monday Night Football of the season, on August 10th, will see Jamie Carragher do the unimaginable and wear his rivals shirt for charity.

LOL!!

JamboMac

Coat22 wrote: »

Did you not see the bombardment I got this morning for quoting VGs comments?

Well in all fairness he usually played off a main striker rather than being the focal point.

Coat22

zerks wrote: »

http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/liverpool-legend-jamie-carragher-will-wear-a-man-united-shirt-on-live-tv-tweets/


LOL!!

Sure why not - he wore a Liverppol one for years and he's an Everton fan:):)

UnitedIrishman

People are setting themselves for a fair bit of angry posting if they think we're going to sign a striker this window.

That comes with the caveat that if Hernandez or Di Maria goes then we'll sign one IMO.

jayo26

JamboMac wrote: »

Really coz my hole point was bas dost was as good an option but cheaper, it's funny how highly rated benteke is in England but you never hear of any large club around Europe sniffing about him.

You said dost had alot better goal to game ratio then benteke and you left out a lot of games that showed he actually hadn't.
Benteke is rated in England because he has a very good goal ratio in England.
Anyway this was Las nights entertainment sorry for bringing it up again.

bangkok

JamboMac wrote: »

Really coz my hole point was bas dost was as good an option but cheaper, it's funny how highly rated benteke is in England but you never hear of any large club around Europe sniffing about him.

because he costs £32.5m and there are not many clubs around Europe that can afford that type of fee and the ones that can don't need a striker

Rossi IRL

So according to transfermarkt these are our players out of contract at the end of the coming season, theres only 2 players there that id like not to lose. De Gea and Hernandez.

Wilson must have signed a new contract or else that website is unreliable.

UnitedIrishman

homerjay2005 wrote: »

In fairness to them, they are having a really good Window, ours depends on DDG and Di Maria.

More depends on who we replace them with if they do in fact go. Be positive Homer.. they're both staying.

The Moldy Gowl

homerjay2005 wrote: »

There's going to be a lot of United fans eating humble pie of those Benteke rumours turned out to be false and he signs for us, my Twitter timeline is awash with "he is s*hit anyway"....

It's the Liverpool echo who reported it ya? Is that what people are jumping on?

It's weird how the second a rumour involving another club apart from utd is reported it's true.

magnumbud

Rossi IRL wrote: »

So according to transfermarkt these are our players out of contract at the end of the coming season, theres only 2 players there that id like not to lose. De Gea and Hernandez.

Wilson must have signed a new contract or else that website is unreliable.

did young not just sign a 3 or 4 year deal? and carrick signed another year or 2 i thought

Rossi IRL

JamboMac wrote: »

Anybody else notice when van gaal was talking about his striker when he came to United, he mentioned wellbeck van persie and so on, except he didn't put Rooney in the striker category.

This was in his press conference yesterday.

He probably meant it in a way that Rooney was the striker and the other names mentioned would be fighting for his place.

Thats how i interpreted it anyway.

Rossi IRL

magnumbud wrote: »

did young not just sign a 3 or 4 year deal? and carrick signed another year or 2 i thought

Website must be wrong so

Coat22

Julez wrote: »

Um, Rooney?

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

Rooney is a striker? Where do you get that notion?

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Get yer Coat, Coat22

Pro. F wrote: »

Rooney is an excellent goal poacher. His off the ball movement is one of the strongest aspects of his game, it's well up there in that list of yours. He has just played other positions as well over his career.

bangkok wrote: »

Wayne Rooney.... Street "centre forward"

JamboMac wrote: »

Well in all fairness he usually played off a main striker rather than being the focal point.

Where were you Jambo 3 hours ago when I needed you????

rightyabe

Hi we signed Berbatov for 32 million in 2008 when he was 27..he scored 27 in 70 league games for Spurs..

Benteke is 24/25 and scored 40 odd in 80 odd games..Id say that Spurs team was better than the villa team now...go figure..

Rayne Wooney

Cavani is only a year and a half younger than Rooney

One of them being on the bench every week would be pointless

bangkok

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Cavani is only a year and a half younger than Rooney

One of them being on the bench every week would be pointless

man utd v Watford at home... 4-4-2 for example...........

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De Gea

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Darmian

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Jones

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Smalling

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Shaw



Mata

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schweinsteiger

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schneiderlin

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depay

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Rooney

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Cavani

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United win 5-0 cavani hatrick, Rooney 1, Depay 1

UnitedIrishman

Formation won't change to 4-4-2 ever. It'll be 4-3-3 and teams will have to adapt to our style if anything. Our whole squad is being built around 4-3-3 (or a backup of 3-5-2).

MythicalMadMan

bangkok wrote: »

man utd v Watford at home... 4-4-2 for example...........

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De Gea

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Darmian

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Jones

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Smalling

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Shaw



Mata

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schweinsteiger

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schneiderlin

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depay

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Rooney

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Cavani

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United win 5-0 cavani hatrick, Rooney 1, Depay 1

For me Cavani is more of a park footballer I dont think he'd gel with a street footballer like Rooney