Deutschland 83/86/89 [SundanceTV] [**Spoilers**]

The Black Oil

That's great, something to look forward if we're still in the Covid doldrums. Hard to believe this thread is 5 years old. Time flies.

mzungu

Fantastic news. Can't wait for this.

86 was top notch, can't wait to see how 89 plays out.

Harry Palmr

Look forward to this on Channel 4.

prinzeugen

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Look forward to this on Channel 4.

I am not sure if it will be on Ch4/RTE as Amazon has the distribution rights.

The 25th September release date on Amazon Prime is for Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Japan and India.

Acosta

I'd be sceptical about RTE getting it as they couldn't even be arsed to put proper subtitles on D86

Reputable Rog

prinzeugen wrote: »

I am not sure if it will be on Ch4/RTE as Amazon has the distribution rights.

The 25th September release date on Amazon Prime is for Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Japan and India.

It will be,

prinzeugen

Reputable Rog wrote: »

It will be,

I had another look there and found more info on a German site. Fremantle International own the rights and Channel 4 is one of the stations on its board so it almost certainly will be on Channel 4 after all.


Amazon is showing it in the countries I posted earlier as none of the domestic stations were interested apparently.

Reputable Rog

prinzeugen wrote: »

I had another look there and found more info on a German site. Fremantle International own the rights and Channel 4 is one of the stations on its board so it almost certainly will be on Channel 4 after all.


Amazon is showing it in the countries I posted earlier as none of the domestic stations were interested apparently.

Correct, it never took off in German speaking countries.

Full_Circle_81

Great to see it get another season, but hope it's not just relegated to Amazon. Their subtitles for the this show in particular are woeful. Last time I checked, they only worked with audio descriptive on, which is very poor.

Acosta

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

Reputable Rog

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

Agree. Talk about a cliffhanger.

Roald Dahl

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

Acosta

Theres nothing anywhere about when or if it's going to be on Channel 4 or RTE. Unfortunately I'd say it will be early next year before it's on either. Such a shame it's simply not on Amazon in these parts too.

Full_Circle_81

Acosta wrote: »

Theres nothing anywhere about when or if it's going to be on Channel 4 or RTE. Unfortunately I'd say it will be early next year before it's on either. Such a shame it's simply not on Amazon in these parts too.

I'd rather watch it on the telly than on Amazon though. Amazon doesn't do proper subtitles for the show, only audio descriptive ones!

Acosta

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

I'd rather watch it on the telly than on Amazon though. Amazon doesn't do proper subtitles for the show, only audio descriptive ones!

They're bad, but watchable. At least you don't need a magnifying glass to see them like the RTE subs for D86. Amazon do need to sort out their subs though. They don't even work when using chromecast via the phone app. I must connect the laptop to the TV each time.

Full_Circle_81

Acosta wrote: »

They're bad, but watchable. At least you don't need a magnifying glass to see them like the RTE subs for D86. Amazon do need to sort out their subs though. They don't even work when using chromecast via the phone app. I must connect the laptop to the TV each time.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the need to have audio descriptive subtitles, but the omission of regular subtitles on a show that's all German is just super lazy on Amazon's part. It almost seems like a mistake. But then their subtitling issues are rampant, so much so that I tend to avoid watching anything on their service that has foreign dialogue in it.

I was watching the German show "4 Blocks" and you specifically had to switch subtitles on, but I got fed up with certain scenes or lines of dialogue that were missing any translation.

I was watching The Missing (English show, but set in France for season 1), but stopped when I realized that the French scenes were supposed to be subtitled but weren't.

Hilariously, there was one show I had no problems with (French show, The Bureau), and they removed it before I finished it!

It's such an inconsistent service that while watching The Boys recently, an exchange happens in French (no subtitles) and I panicked thinking "are they missing or am I just not supposed to know what they're saying?!".

Amazon are a hot mess.

prinzeugen

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

The auto translate on youtube is good.



I will be able to watch a English subtitled version in the next few weeks.


Having watched the trailer.. I do not know what to make of it. It might be because I am old enough to remember that brodcast. My mum Cried.


The world did.

prinzeugen

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

The auto translate on youtube is good.



I will be able to watch a English subtitled version in the next few weeks.


Having watched the trailer.. I do not know what to make of it. It might be because I am old enough to remember that brodcast. My mum Cried.


The world did. Happy tears.

iguana

prinzeugen wrote: »

My mum Cried.


The world did. Happy tears.

I was 11 going on 12 and it's the first time I ever cried happy tears. I'd never understood before that how people would cry when happy but watching those scenes brought up such strong emotions in me that I cried.

prinzeugen

Just finished the first episode of 89. Very good!

prinzeugen

The wall is down by the end of the first episode.

iguana

I've watched the first 4. I'd love to say I was going to space them out but I won't. I'm preferring 89 to 86 so far. It's a pity Ludwig Trepte's Alex has no place in the story. He was fairly pointlessly shoehorned into 86, though, so it's probably better that we don't see him than have lots of scenes with little bearing on the plot just to include him. I'm assuming at this point that, speculation,

the fall of communist Romania will be a big part of the finale. The Ceaușescus were tried on Christmas day, so that neatly leads into the end of 89, with a little bit of time for a wrap up on NYE as the decade closes.

Roald Dahl

Where are you both watching it? On Amazon and located in Germany?

I can see it on amazon.de, but it is not available to me due to being in Ireland.

Rasmus

Any pointers how one could watch '89 from Ireland?

Homelander

Really enjoying it. As someone else said, probably more than 86, which was good, but the first half of the season dragged a bit. This is far better paced.

jrmb

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

For anyone interested, "A Perfect Crime" is an interesting watch.

Harry Palmr

I was looking at a Variety article which stated that Freemantle International are going with Channel 4 again for the UK market, obviously that'll do for us as well. Maybe Amazon will get first dibs and then C4 as the secondary market. If that's true then it could be well into 2021 before it's FTA.

brian_t

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

More4 is showing The Same Sky later this month.

mailforkev

Starts on Sundance network in the States on 29th October so hopefully available via the usual with English subs after then.

Edit, just spotted it’s already started in Australia so must be on t’interwebs already with subs.

Homelander

mailforkev wrote: »

Starts on Sundance network in the States on 29th October so hopefully available via the usual with English subs after then.

Edit, just spotted it’s already started in Australia so must be on t’interwebs already with subs.

It's been available for almost a month with eng subs.

mailforkev

Homelander wrote: »

It's been available for almost a month with eng subs.

Indeed it is. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out now.

cdgalwegian

brian_t wrote: »

More4 is showing The Same Sky later this month.

Available at the moment.

Roald Dahl

Any update as to when this can be seen in Ireland?

Is it still Bückware?

Testament1

Loved season 1 of this. Started into it after bingeing through Dark so it was great to continue the German drama. Season 2 is showing up on Prime Video for me but only to buy or rent. I have no intention of paying extra when I'm already paying for the prime subscription. Anyone found a version with the Spanish audio and English subs? My wife is South American, we watched season 1 this way on Prime.

Acosta

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Any update as to when this can be seen in Ireland?

Is it still Bückware?

It's on Channel 4 next month.

trashcan

Boskowski wrote: »

Only weakness was in episode 4 I think; the whole Linda thing between where she found out he's the spy and her death makes no sense at all. But other than that very well done and very entertaining. Good pace and like the actors too. Probably one of the best TV series that has come out of Germany. Really recommend it.

I’ve just discovered this on All4 and I think it’s brilliant. Am mid way through 86 at the moment, so I haven’t read all of this thread for fear of spoilers. I did think that part of 83 didn’t make much sense. He spots Linda from a bridge in the city and suddenly she’s running through woods away from him. It was like there was a scene missing. Anyway, a minor enough quibble. It’s still the best tv I’ve see since Narcos. Is 89 been shown at the moment ? If so, where ?

Edit, scrap that question. I hadn’t seen the post above mine before I wrote it.

Harry Palmr

Deutschland 89 starts on More4 at 9pm on 26 February

Curlysue76

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Deutschland 89 starts on More4 at 9pm on 26 February

Yaaaaaay, can’t wait

brian_t

There is an interview with the writers and stars in todays Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/feb/03/deutschland-89-stasi-horror-spy-trilogy

Barna77

I suppose it will be available on the All4 website?

trashcan

I’m midway through 86 now, and still enjoying it. Don’t really see any dip in quality myself. Walter is becoming one of my favourite characters in it.

Think I did read that it will be on All4.

Fr Tod Umptious

trashcan wrote: »

I’m midway through 86 now, and still enjoying it. Don’t really see any dip in quality myself. Walter is becoming one of my favourite characters in it.

Think I did read that it will be on All4.

I too am half way through '86 and I also think Walter is brilliant.

It's a great franchise.

I've known about it since it came out but have only started binge watching it on All 4 this last few months.

trashcan

Barna77 wrote: »

I suppose it will be available on the All4 website?

More 4 are advertising it now. Presume that they will show it weekly, so if you want to binge watch All4 is your option, if they make it all available there straightaway and don’t wait for it to finish on More 4. Either way I’ll be there.

brian_t

It has been put back a week and is now starting on Friday 5th March at 9pm.

https://www.geektown.co.uk/tvairdates/deutschland/

silverharp

89 wasnt too bad, an enjoyable watch but it seemed to run out of steam with too many little side stories going on from my liking

PurpleRainx

Anybody know where I can watch this show with German subtitles? Trying to improve mein deutsch and english subtitles only seem to be available on 4od

gmisk

I gave up a few episodes into 86...didn't hook me in at all like 83.
I always meant to go back to it though

Alun

gmisk wrote: »

I gave up a few episodes into 86...didn't hook me in at all like 83.
I always meant to go back to it though

Me too. I loved '83 but lost track of what was happening after a couple of episodes of '86 and gave up.

Acosta

D86 gets better a few episodes in.

prinzeugen

If anyone is interested, new docs show how real Deutschland 83 was.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39331/misinterpretation-of-1983-nato-exercise-led-to-the-soviets-arming-100-jets-for-nuclear-war