Deutschland 83/86/89 [SundanceTV] [**Spoilers**]

trashcan

Scary to think how close to Armageddon we came. Madness.

corks finest

prinzeugen wrote: »

If anyone is interested, new docs show how real Deutschland 83 was.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39331/misinterpretation-of-1983-nato-exercise-led-to-the-soviets-arming-100-jets-for-nuclear-war

On season 2 atm and the bloody subtitles are in German with no english, great show

corks finest

sugarman wrote: »

They're in English on All4.

Well feck it didn't know, much appreciated I've that app on the phone, brilliant thanks again

Acosta

prinzeugen wrote: »

If anyone is interested, new docs show how real Deutschland 83 was.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39331/misinterpretation-of-1983-nato-exercise-led-to-the-soviets-arming-100-jets-for-nuclear-war

I saw a good documentary about Able Archer a few years ago.

https://youtu.be/tPit2BGNKwo

Prefab Sprouter

Such a good series, cant wait!

brian_t

Deutschland 83 & 86 Recap

Curlysue76

brian_t wrote: »

Deutschland 83 & 86 Recap

Thanks for sharing that, really enjoyed it. I'd actually forgotten a lot of 86, remembered all of 83, which, imo was the better of the two. looking forward watching 89.

Fr Tod Umptious

89 starts tonight on More 4

djemba djemba

Just finished the first episode of 89. What a great show and soundtrack.

Curlysue76

djemba djemba wrote: »

Just finished the first episode of 89. What a great show and soundtrack.

Just finished the series, loved it, a close second to 83 for me and that’s saying something. Loved the montage at the end, powerful.

Barna77

djemba djemba wrote: »

Just finished the first episode of 89. What a great show and soundtrack.

Loved the scene to the end

when the HVA bosses see on tv the opening of the border, and the use of actual tv footage. Goosebumps!

5 episodes down, and loving it.

ArmaniJeanss

Mostly enjoying this, though at times I don't have a scooby what is happening.
Thought the episodes with Martin undercover with the 'Baader Meinhoffs' went on a bit, and the Winkleman/CIA scenes are a waste of space.

Up to episode 6 (the one that was on More4 last Friday).

I thought the scene in Tina's apartment was superbly done. I genuinely didn't know whether Tina was wrong or the guy had indeed been the Stasi interrogator - thus I was sharing her doubts and confusion as she tried to work it out. (Maybe it was obvious either way for an attentive viewer who remembered the interrogator or knew the actor?).

The scenes in Sorrento were great fun as well - again I'm not sure whether the Fuchs' are becoming capitalists and planning to keep the loot themselves, or whether they are genuinely trying to relaunch the communist party. And I don't know whether that's something which should be obvious to me, or whether its to be part of the denouement.

Doesn't look like we are getting any Annette (Martins ex, mother of Max) this series. A shame because it looks like the scenes with the teacher were originally written with Annette in mind and they don't really fit now.

trashcan

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Mostly enjoying this, though at times I don't have a scooby what is happening.
Thought the episodes with Martin undercover with the 'Baader Meinhoffs' went on a bit, and the Winkleman/CIA scenes are a waste of space.

Up to episode 6 (the one that was on More4 last Friday).

I thought the scene in Tina's apartment was superbly done. I genuinely didn't know whether Tina was wrong or the guy had indeed been the Stasi interrogator - thus I was sharing her doubts and confusion as she tried to work it out. (Maybe it was obvious either way for an attentive viewer who remembered the interrogator or knew the actor?).

The scenes in Sorrento were great fun as well - again I'm not sure whether the Fuchs' are becoming capitalists and planning to keep the loot themselves, or whether they are genuinely trying to relaunch the communist party. And I don't know whether that's something which should be obvious to me, or whether its to be part of the denouement.

Doesn't look like we are getting any Annette (Martins ex, mother of Max) this series. A shame because it looks like the scenes with the teacher were originally written with Annette in mind and they don't really fit now.

I’m at that episode too. Whoever the guy in Tinas apartment is (and I don’t remember either) he’s certainly up to no good.

I think Fuchs is definitely enjoying his new lifestyle. His “scheisse” when he saw Lenora arriving was quite telling. He also seems quite open to working with the CIA/BND. One thing I didn’t get from the previous episode is where Max shows Walter the photo and he uses it to blackmail the woman from the bank. What was the significance of the photo ?

sliabh 1956

One of my all time favourite TV Series that and The Americans great acting and great storylinesI never get tired of them.

cdgalwegian

Just finished episode 6 today myself. It did start off on a bit of a meander, but it has been getting really enjoyable now; this last one was great tv. Weaving in the narrative of real history, with properly fleshed out characters is making this into another excellent German series.

trashcan

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Just finished episode 6 today myself. It did start off on a bit of a meander, but it has been getting really enjoyable now; this last one was great tv. Weaving in the narrative of real history, with properly fleshed out characters is making this into another excellent German series.

Anything else German you’d recommend cd ? I’ve heard good things about The Same Skies, which was described as basically Deutschland 74.

cdgalwegian

trashcan wrote: »

Anything else German you’d recommend cd ? I’ve heard good things about The Same Skies, which was described as basically Deutschland 74.

I have Same Skies cued up (only 1 series afaik), and looking forward to it.

Babylon Berlin is top notch tv.

Dark might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if the reviews' blurbs grab you, it is one of the best shows out there of its ilk, German or not.

Mike Litoris

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Dark might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if the reviews' blurbs grab you, it is one of the best shows out there of its ilk, German or not.

+1 Dark changed my view on subtitles. Such a good show! When something is that good the inconvenience becomes irrelevant. If anything it forces to watch and concentrate.

spurious

I enjoyed this. I was in the DDR in 1985/86 and the reconstructions of products and colours of things are spot on. Some very funny moments.
Loved when Walter was going to go over to the West in his clearly East German issue suit, hat and coat.

ednwireland

oh my god best series in a long time loved the whole thing watched it in real more4 time loved the ending !

cdgalwegian

I remember reading about this only last year: in episode 6, I think this is what Helmut Kohl was referring to in the Leipzig speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/how-a-pan-european-picnic-brought-down-the-iron-curtain-hungarians-austrians

The Black Oil

89 has started on RTE 2 on Weds nights. First episode is up on the player.

The Black Oil

I quite enjoyed this, having slowly caught up through RTE Player - only episodes 7 and 8 left there now. Some folks over on Reddit were less kind about it. I got a kick out of Schweppenstette's 'oh my God!' x3 times in the first episode, upon seeing footage of the Wall coming down. And of course, we can't forget to pass comment on Fritz's voice activation system for home appliances later on in the series, brilliant. Martin was fairly put through the wringer, I felt no pity for Valdez at all. Props to the cast, I think Tina's storyline in the apartment had me the most concerned. The montage at the end had to the whole 'those who ignore history', etc, etc, thing going on.

Now, how thick is your HVA file?