New Build Advice request

Is1ldur

Hi All, I need to do a new build seeing as my last one is looking quite long in the tooth now (Core 2 Duo...)

1. What is your budget? [Around €800-900, I was hoping, although it seems to be coming in above that at present)

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming mainly and a bit of music (but nothing too taxing)] (I 'd like to be able to play new games on high or ultra settings)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [I think so, seeing as I am still on Vista]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [I could use some parts but I was trying not to. I currently have a Core 2 Due 6700 with some kind of Asus MB, 4GB Ram, no idea of brand without opening the PC, GTX460, Soundblaster Xfi, 500GB HD, Decent large Antec case with a relatively recent (less than 5 years) power supply, cant' remember the wattage, but I think it is 400-450) Hard drive/DVD Drive/Case/PSU/etc.] (If possible state brand and model of the parts to ensure compatibility)

5. Do you need a monitor? [No]

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/] [No]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.] None of these required

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Not really bothered]

8. How can you pay? Any

9. When are you purchasing? [Soon]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [Shouldn't need help]

I was basing my choices on the PCGamer Rig as a complete new build but would like your opinion on best prices, and should I change out certain things? Also, Should I just re-use some of my current parts? I assum we are talking just Case, Power Supply, Sound card?
I've only checked Amazon so far, but prices here are Sterling and I have no idea what kind of postage they would charge on all this, so anyone with experience, please let me know. I might have a look at Hardwareversand now also.

I5 4690 £178
Asus Z97P D3 £62
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16B (8x2) £82
Seagate Barracuda 2TB £57
Sandisk 128GB SDSS DP 128G G25 £40
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Heatsink £25
Corsair CXM 500W £52
Corsair Carbide 200R Case £54
GTX970 G1 Gaming £280
All comes to £829, which at today's rate is €1,167, so a bit more than I wanted to pay.
(Forgot about Windows!, maybe I'll stay on Vista!)
Anyway, I'd really appreciate your thoughts and advice.


(Edit-I just did a quick check on Hardwareversand (without the other discount form the other website I have seen mentioned here before and the price comes to €1078. I also checked and if I use my own case and power supply, and go for a GTX 960 Gaming 4GB, that would save me €245, bringing the budget down to a reasonable €833!)
Thank you!

Digital Solitude

I5 4690 £178
Asus Z97P D3 £62
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16B (8x2) £82
Seagate Barracuda 2TB £57
Sandisk 128GB SDSS DP 128G G25 £40
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo Heatsink £25
Corsair CXM 500W £52
Corsair Carbide 200R Case £54
GTX970 G1 Gaming £280
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Vista? Yuck, windows 7 key is €20 from reddit

Drop CPU to i5 4460
H97 board €80-90
8gb RAM is loads
Should be able to carry old hard drives no? Or are they IDE
Don't need a new heatsink
Everything else is fine.

If buying from Amazon use skinflint.co.UK, for hardwareversand use Geizhals.de to knock a few euro off.

Total should be roughly €920 delivered from HWVS

i5 €175
970 €330
H97 €90
500w PSU €60
SSD €60
Case €70
2tb HDD €77

Str4ngeBr3w

PM sent as I cannot post links yet

Is1ldur

Okay, before I push the button, what is your opinion of the below. I decided not to re-use parts from the old PC. (Prices from Dabs, by the way)

My basket
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5" Hard Drive More than 50 in stock

€86.53

Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5
Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5" Solid State Drive More than 50 in stock

€57.66
Qty:

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Gaming
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Gaming 4 in stock

€437.40
Qty:

CoolerMaster High Performance Thermal Paste 2g
CoolerMaster High Performance Thermal Paste 2g 35 in stock

€4.93
Qty:

Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply 35 in stock

€79.31
Qty:

Asus Intel Gamer Bundle (Includes Z97-P, Intel Core i5-4690K and Corsair 8GB DDR3 Vengeance Pro)
Asus Intel Gamer Bundle (Includes Z97-P, Intel Core i5-4690K and Corsair 8GB DDR3 Vengeance Pro) 20 in stock

€434.01
Qty:

Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0
Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0 1 in stock

€108.58
Qty:

Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA
Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA More than 50 in stock

€14.41
Qty:

Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64bit - 1pk - OEM - DVD
Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64bit - 1pk - OEM - DVD 23 in stock

€115.14
Qty:
Delivery (17.6kg) €2.96
Total (inc VAT) €1,340.93

Digital Solitude

The Windows key, GPU and PSU are absolutely riding you, everything is fine.

Check Amazon.de for those two components, windows key from Reddit

You'll only need a 500w psu

Is1ldur

Thanks mate. I'll have another look over the weekend before I push the button!

Skerries

why is that GTX 970 so dear?

Is1ldur

I've had another go and changed a couple of things. Anyone any further opinions or should I just go ahead?

Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5
Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5" Solid State Drive More than 50 in stock

€55.00
Qty:

Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5" Hard Drive More than 50 in stock

€86.89
Qty:

Asus Intel Gamer Bundle (Includes Z97-P, Intel Core i5-4690K and Corsair 8GB DDR3 Vengeance Pro)
Asus Intel Gamer Bundle (Includes Z97-P, Intel Core i5-4690K and Corsair 8GB DDR3 Vengeance Pro) 19 in stock

€439.50
Qty:

Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0
Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0 2 in stock

€104.31
Qty:

Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply 14 in stock

€77.30
Qty:

Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 DirectCU II OC STRIX
Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 DirectCU II OC STRIX 40 in stock

€224.36
Qty:
Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA
Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA More than 50 in stock

€14.41
Qty:

Delivery (16.5kg) €2.55
Total (inc VAT) €1,004.32

Digital Solitude

The CPU, MB and RAM bundle is more expensive than before?

4690k €250
8gb RAM €50
Board €80
It's about €50 more than buying then independently.

960 isn't a great card either, its good enough for High settings with most current games.

I'd drop the CPU to the 4460 as above, buy the bundled stuff separate and you should have enough to get a GTX 970 and still save a little.

Weaker CPU with strong card is better than a strong CPU with a weak card.

Is1ldur

Ta for that, decided to keep the 4690 but saved a little by splitting the bundle up and also upped the card. All from Dabs at the moment. Should I be looking elsewhere? Seems just handy if the saving is not major to keep everything in one place.


Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5
Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus SATA 6GB/s 2.5" Solid State Drive More than 50 in stock

€55.00
Qty:

Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM 3.5" Hard Drive More than 50 in stock

€86.89
Qty:

Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0
Antec P100 Gaming Case ATX Soundproof No PSU USB 3.0 Ordered upon request

€88.00
Qty:

Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply 14 in stock

€77.30
Qty:

Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA
Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM drive - Serial ATA More than 50 in stock

€14.41
Qty:

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz 6MB S1150 Quad Core 'Devils Canyon' Processor with Heat Sink Fan
Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz 6MB S1150 Quad Core 'Devils Canyon' Processor with Heat Sink Fan 8 in stock

€273.78
Qty:

Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) Vengeance Pro Black DDR3 1866MHz CL9
Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) Vengeance Pro Black DDR3 1866MHz CL9 Ordered upon request

€64.34
Qty:

Asus Z97-P S1150 Intel Z97 DDR3 ATX
Asus Z97-P S1150 Intel Z97 DDR3 ATX 10 in stock

€94.29
Qty:

MSI GeForce GTX 970 1279MHz 4GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Gaming TFV
MSI GeForce GTX 970 1279MHz 4GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Gaming TFV 28 in stock

€408.42
Qty:

Delivery (15.8kg) €2.27
Total (inc VAT) €1,164.70

Digital Solitude

Is this dabs?

Is1ldur

Yes, it is Digital.

Digital Solitude

Sorry I had missed that in the first paragraph It's fairly over priced, I'd have a look at Amazon or mind factory, you should be able to bring that under €1000, or very close to it

Is1ldur

I saw mind factory. Are they okay? I had never heard of the name before.

Digital Solitude

No idea, they're cheap as chips, been recommending them here, I think only one or two people have bought from them though, no complaints

Is1ldur

Another mail, still not purchased yet. This is from MindFactory. Do you have to do either Bank Transfer or PayPal? It's all in bloody German! 1018, although I am not sure if this includes VAT.....

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61945 1 Intel Core i5 4690 4x 3.50GHz So.1150 BOX
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Hersteller: Intel, Prozessor Serie: Core i5, Prozessor Modell: 4690, Codename: Haswell, Anzahl der CPU Kerne: 4x, Prozessortakt: 3.50GHz, Max. Turbotakt: 3.90GHz, Sockel: So.1150, Fertigungsprozess: 22nm, TDP: 84W, DMI Takt: 5.0GT/s, L2 Cache: 4x 256kB, L3 Cache: 6MB Shared, Integrierte Grafik:... weitere Produktdetails anzeigen »
€ 220,36* € 220,36*
8617032 1 120GB SanDisk Plus 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s MLC Toggle...
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€ 47,85* € 47,85*
8414475 1 2000GB Seagate Desktop HDD ST2000DM001 64MB 3.5" (8.9cm)...
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8454624 1 Corsair Carbide Series 200R Midi Tower ohne Netzteil schwarz

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8456653 1 600 Watt Corsair CX Series Modular 80+ Bronze
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€ 74,01* € 74,01*
8626902 1 Samsung SH-224FB 24x24x/DL 8x 8x/RAM intern bare bulk DVW SATA...
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Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-224FB - Laufwerk - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM - 24x/24x/5x - Serial ATA - intern - 13.3 cm ( 5.25" ) - weiß
€ 11,83* € 11,83*
8428808 1 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 DIMM CL9 Dual Kit
Als Geschenk verpacken: Nein

Hersteller: Crucial, Modellname: Ballistix Sport, Gesamtkapazität: 8GB, Anzahl der Module: 2x, Kapazität der Einzelmodule: 4096MB, Art des Speichers: DDR3-1600, JEDEC Norm: PC3-12800U, Speichertyp: unbuffered, Bauform: DIMM, Speicherinterface: DDR3, Max. Frequenz: 1600MHz, Verpackung: Dual Kit,... weitere Produktdetails anzeigen »
€ 39,28* € 39,28*
8597657 1 Asus Z97-P Intel Z97 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail
Als Geschenk verpacken: Nein

Hersteller: Asus, Mainboard Modell: Z97-P, Mainboard Sockel: So.1150, Mainboard Chipsatz: Intel Z97, Mainboard Formfaktor: ATX, Onboard Grafik: Intel HD-Grafik Unterstützung, Grafikausgänge: 1x DVI / 1x HDMI / 1x VGA, MultiGPU Fähigkeit: nicht geeignet, Arbeitsspeicher Slots: 4x, Arbeitsspeicher... weitere Produktdetails anzeigen »
€ 86,95* € 86,95*
62703 1 4096MB Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Gaming G1 Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16...
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€ 349,94* € 349,94*

Zwischensumme:
€ 958,16*

Versandkosten:
+ € 59,98*

inkl. 19% USt:
€ 162,56

Gesamtpreis:
€ 1.018,14

grindle

Is1ldur wrote: »

Do you have to do either Bank Transfer or PayPal? It's all in bloody German! 1018, although I am not sure if this includes VAT.....

The €1018 does include VAT.

It also includes a second delivery charge of €30 for the case, so try to buy the case from Amazon or somewhere as that's basically costing you €87 inc. delivery from mindfactory (they have a separate warehouse for large items hence the added delivery charge).

There's no point getting a Z97 unless you get a 'k' version (overclockable) of the CPU so I'd drop to a H97 and plough the saved money into other upgrades.


+ delivery = 946.27

The same case from Amazon is €68.88 + €3.95 for Parcel Motel = €72.83

...making the total amount €1019.1. An extra euro above your projected spend but you've got a better PSU, an SSD that's twice as large and IMO a better, more future-proof GPU.