How much do you spend on supplements

swingking

How much do people spend on supplements?

I reckon I spend about 100 euro a month on supplements

That includes

- whey protein

- CoQ10

- MultiVitimain

Zillah

I get a 5kg bag of whey which costs seventy something and last for months. Creatine is dirt cheap. Where are you getting your whey?

Isn't the jury out on whether CoQ10 does anything at all?

Alf Veedersane

5kg of whey cost me €50 on the Bulk Powders deal. Prolley end up getting a good 5+ months out of that.

Vid D and omega 3 on top of that.

Looking at no more than 120 in a year, max, I reckon.

Hanley

€0.

Because once you're big you can just bully the other kids and take theirs.

Law of the jungle yo.

Sugar Free

About 350E per year for 25kg of whey.

I can see how you could rack up a bill upwards of 1000E if you're also using creatine, glutamine, ZMA etc.

arayess

about 70 a month

whey
fish oil
creatine
multi vit
pysllium husks

occasionally I'll throw something in as a treat for myself.

I tend to do alternate months buy whey creatine one month and fish oil/ multi vit the next

guile4582

2.5kg of Whey - €33
1kg Creatine - €14

lasts about 6 months

guile4582

Sugar Free wrote: »

About 350E per year for 25kg of whey.

I can see how you could rack up a bill upwards of 1000E if you're also using creatine, glutamine, ZMA etc.

that's €30 a month on whey protein alone, do you bathe in the stuff?

take it you compete (in something)

arayess

guile4582 wrote: »

2.5kg of Whey - €33
1kg Creatine - €14

lasts about 6 months

you ration your whey to .46 a scoop per day?
That must be a pain to measure out :pac:

Zillah

guile4582 wrote: »

take it you compete (in something)

Whey eating contest. He's very good.

guile4582

arayess wrote: »

you ration your whey to .46 a scoop per day?
That must be a pain to measure out :pac:

i eat food and supplement my diet yes...isnt that the point?

Alf Veedersane

guile4582 wrote: »

that's €30 a month on whey protein alone, do you bathe in the stuff?

It's about 2 scoops a day.

That's a pint-sized shake.

Or a very, very small bath.

Sugar Free

guile4582 wrote: »

that's €30 a month on whey protein alone, do you bathe in the stuff?

take it you compete (in something)

I don't see why that means I must compete in something? But no, I don't.

I aim for 250-300g protein a day, 60-80g of that comes from whey. I haven't calculated my chicken bill but I'm sure it will be far higher than 350e a year!

I have two bags of whey still going but i definitely am not buying by the month
I think i have one scoop a day maybe two

runawaybishop

Sugar Free wrote: »

I don't see why that means I must compete in something? But no, I don't.

I aim for 250-300g protein a day, 60-80g of that comes from whey. I haven't calculated my chicken bill but I'm sure it will be far higher than 350e a year!

300 grams? So you are 25-30 stone?

strelok

vitamin d is around a tenner for 3 months so.. 3 quid id say
magnesium citrate is around 20 euro for 2.5-3 months so we'll say 8 quid for that one
zinc is around 7 quid for 3 months worth so we'll say 2 quid for that
creatine is ... i dunno, **** all

13-15 quid altogether I guess. I am thinking about getting a more expensive form of magnesium though, almost 20 sterling for a months worth.. but i'll likely take it sparingly, when I can't easily stir up a little mug of maggy citrate

arayess

guile4582 wrote: »

i eat food and supplement my diet yes...isnt that the point?

depends what the point is. my point and yours could (and probably are) be different.

guile4582

arayess wrote: »

depends what the point is. my point and yours could (and probably are) be different.

you diet on supplements??

arayess

guile4582 wrote: »

you diet on supplements??

not entirely but i'd have more protein a day..

3 on a training day , 1 on a non.
Its' nice in oats

Paddy Dreadful

Zero supplements are a waste of money

Paddy Dreadful

The market is geared towards bull****ee bro science claims that are simply not true such as 6 meals a day and the post and pre workout window , taking a protein shake with Creatine directly after a workout won't have any magically effect that leads to more muscle. As long as you take adequate protein during the day through real food your set , Creatine is the only supplement that works but not the magically compound the supplement companies would like u to believe , it's not a steroid nor does it have steroid effects . Why would anyone want to supplement with protein when you can have tasty food and be much more satisfied is beyond me

You clearly haven't had mint choc protein

I'm converting to the 6 meals thing more energy same cals

MagicMarker

Paddy Dreadful wrote: »

The market is geared towards bull****ee bro science claims that are simply not true such as 6 meals a day and the post and pre workout window , taking a protein shake with Creatine directly after a workout won't have any magically effect that leads to more muscle. As long as you take adequate protein during the day through real food your set , Creatine is the only supplement that works but not the magically compound the supplement companies would like u to believe , it's not a steroid nor does it have steroid effects . Why would anyone want to supplement with protein when you can have tasty food and be much more satisfied is beyond me

This might not be the thread for you.

El Horseboxo

I prefer real food but supplements are handy when work gets tough and life interfers in preparing actual food.

Whey is the one staple I'll always pick up. I always have a few 5.5 pound bags there because I buy them whenever offers are on rather than waiting till I need it. I'll also use creatine, bcaa and L glutamine. They're quite cheap and I go on and off the creatine. Multivitamins are also cheap as are fish oil caps.

I'd say if I break my total yearly consumption of supplements into monthly it would work out less than 30 dollars. Which is probably close enough to 30 euro these days. If I didn't buy in bulk or in advance without special offers I reckon it would be much higher.

Blacktie.

Paddy Dreadful wrote:

The market is geared towards bull****ee bro science claims that are simply not true such as 6 meals a day and the post and pre workout window , taking a protein shake with Creatine directly after a workout won't have any magically effect that leads to more muscle. As long as you take adequate protein during the day through real food your set , Creatine is the only supplement that works but not the magically compound the supplement companies would like u to believe , it's not a steroid nor does it have steroid effects . Why would anyone want to supplement with protein when you can have tasty food and be much more satisfied is beyond me

Paddy Dreadful wrote:

Why would anyone want to supplement with protein when you can have tasty food and be much more satisfied is beyond me

Convenience is pretty high up there for me. I barely have time for anything as it is.

Alf Veedersane

bluewolf wrote: »

You clearly haven't had mint choc protein

Or maybe he has...

Mister Vain

About 50 euro a month. That's for whey, vitamins and juice for joints.

DarkoT

I don't waste money on supplements, nowadays I try to eat properly and the results are great... Maybe I'm wasting more money on proper food

strelok

strelok wrote: »

vitamin d is around a tenner for 3 months so.. 3 quid id say
magnesium citrate is around 20 euro for 2.5-3 months so we'll say 8 quid for that one
zinc is around 7 quid for 3 months worth so we'll say 2 quid for that
creatine is ... i dunno, **** all

13-15 quid altogether I guess. I am thinking about getting a more expensive form of magnesium though, almost 20 sterling for a months worth.. but i'll likely take it sparingly, when I can't easily stir up a little mug of maggy citrate

another 18 euro on 100g l theanine but i've no idea how much of that i'll be taking or how often so i don't think that'll translate into too much of a monthly cost

5 euro on 100g choline bitartrate. i heard it was linked with vivid dreams and lucid dreaming so figured what the hell.


i did get some magnesium malate too. 10 sterling for 180 tabs, i guess the typical dosage would be 4-6 tabs a day but since I'll mainly be using the magnesium citrate still I don't know how often i'm going to have to resupply or even if this particular brand is any good.

I was humming and hawing between malate and taurate too, taurate was quite a bit dearer. glycinate was what i wanted originally but that ****'s bloody expensive as all get out.
I don't think it makes a massive difference either way, I only supplement for general well being (zinc + vitamin d) and trying to deal with anxiety/depression (magnesium and l theanine). the magnesium is the important thing so whatever it's chelated with is only an extra (probably irrelevant to me) bonus and I've never used l theanine before so this might just be a one time purchase.

apparently the l-theanine allows people who are sensitive to caffeine or prone to anxiety to drink coffee without the anxiety/jittery after effects. I'll be resupplying weekly if that's the case.


I do wonder pretty frequently if i'm wasting my money on this ****. magnesium for sure has made my life so much better and I'm fairly sold on the idea of vitamin d supplementing, especially in Ireland. the rest though... self delusion is pretty strong stuff, as well as being free and abundant in nature.

Alf Veedersane

strelok wrote: »

magnesium for sure has made my life so much better

Q-reuss.

How so?

strelok

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Q-reuss.

How so?

helps loads with anxiety/depression (or at least it can do for some people, if they are deficient in magnesium in the first place). I went from regularly zoning out staring at my shoes for 10-15 minutes because i was so bored and uninterested in my surroundings to making small talk with strangers in the supermarket and it wasn't all that gradual a change. The only new thing was i was supplementing magnesium. It removed the fog from my brain that wouldn't go away even when i was in a pretty good mood.

****'s pretty cool is the general point im trying to get across.

Manutd_4life

Just a question here:

Is €15 euro for 1kg of creatine good value or are there better deals out there. And if you take 5g per day, it would last you 200 days which is more than 6 months!!!

MagicMarker

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Just a question here:

Is €15 euro for 1kg of creatine good value or are there better deals out there. And if you take 5g per day, it would last you 200 days which is more than 6 months!!!

Dude, have you actually gone to the gym yet?

Manutd_4life

MagicMarker wrote: »

Dude, have you actually gone to the gym yet?

Haha yes why???

guile4582

you need to take a week off creatine every 8

runawaybishop

Manutd_4life wrote: »

Just a question here:

Is €15 euro for 1kg of creatine good value or are there better deals out there. And if you take 5g per day, it would last you 200 days which is more than 6 months!!!

You need more than 5grams a day though, it depends on your workload and your weight. 15 for 1kg sounds about right

guile4582 wrote: »

you need to take a week off creatine every 8

You don't.

Manutd_4life

runawaybishop wrote: »

You need more than 5grams a day though, it depends on your workload and your weight. 15 for 1kg sounds about right

I've heard from friends and plenty of online forums and websites that more than 5g a day is a waste and the extra creatine will not make any difference.

runawaybishop

Manutd_4life wrote: »

I've heard from friends and plenty of online forums and websites that more than 5g a day is a waste and the extra creatine will not make any difference.

Are those friends peer reviewed scientists? There are a whole pile of myths around lifting in general and creatine in particular.

Look at it logically, heres an example. - I weigh 100kg and lift heavy 4 days a week. My friend is 60kg and lifts once a week. We both need 5 grams do we?

guile4582

runawaybishop wrote: »

Are those friends peer reviewed scientists? There are a whole pile of myths around lifting in general and creatine in particular.

Look at it logically, heres an example. - I weigh 100kg and lift heavy 4 days a week. My friend is 60kg and lifts once a week. We both need 5 grams do we?

ok its advised to take a week off every 8. but the internet is a wonderful place, for every bit of advice you can also find a bit of advice that completely contradicts it...cue Des'ree

Alf Veedersane

Examine.com should be a port of call when it comes to things like creatine.

It answers the cycling of creating pretty well:

"Do you need to cycle creatine?

No."

guile4582

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Examine.com should be a port of call when it comes to things like creatine.

It answers the cycling of creating pretty well:

"Do you need to cycle creatine?

No."

call me a traditionalist, but I usually trust my nearest and dearest, a few happen to be fitness trainers/athletes (sadly which I am not) so I am gonna go with them. but yeah once you've read up on it and happy with your sources go for whatever you think.

runawaybishop

guile4582 wrote: »

ok its advised to take a week off every 8. but the internet is a wonderful place, for every bit of advice you can also find a bit of advice that completely contradicts it...cue Des'ree

Who is it advised by though? Creatine is naturally occurring in red meat, do they also advise you to take a week off red meat every 2 months?

runawaybishop

guile4582 wrote: »

call me a traditionalist, but I usually trust my nearest and dearest, a few happen to be fitness trainers/athletes (sadly which I am not) so I am gonna go with them. but yeah once you've read up on it and happy with your sources go for whatever you think.

So you don't have any truck with logic?

cc87

runawaybishop wrote: »

So you don't have any truck with logic?

Always remember this.

papu

guile4582 wrote: »

call me a traditionalist, but I usually trust my nearest and dearest, a few happen to be fitness trainers/athletes (sadly which I am not) so I am gonna go with them. but yeah once you've read up on it and happy with your sources go for whatever you think.

That's not a traditionalist it's just being naive and pretty closed minded, it's like trusting homoeopathy over antibiotics. The science has been done, the studies are pretty conclusive... why would you put your faith in someone saying things contrary to scientific evidence just because you "like / trust" them".. I'll never understand..

endacl

Zero for me. I only take in what I eat. Not really anti supplements and what not. Just couldn't be bothered and am no way organised enough.

Dtp1979

strelok wrote: »

to making small talk with strangers in the supermarket

What are you? American?

arayess

papu wrote: »

That's not a traditionalist it's just being naive and pretty closed minded, it's like trusting homoeopathy over antibiotics. The science has been done, the studies are pretty conclusive... why would you put your faith in someone saying things contrary to scientific evidence just because you "like / trust" them".. I'll never understand..

science doesn't cover it all , there are many holes and gaps in studies.
many studies don't use "trained" individuals so mightn't be a like with like comparison (for example).
People are so varied and different that sometime studies don't cut it.

If you wait for conclusive proof, you'll be waiting years and if you are a sports person your career could have come and gone.

I think if a person thinks something like loading creatine works better for them then do that - to hell with what a study says or doesn't say


Go out there - live the bro-science and enjoy it.

runawaybishop

arayess wrote: »

science doesn't cover it all , there are many holes and gaps in studies.
many studies don't use "trained" individuals so mightn't be a like with like comparison (for example).
People are so varied and different that sometime studies don't cut it.

If you wait for conclusive proof, you'll be waiting years and if you are a sports person your career could have come and gone.

I think if a person thinks something like loading creatine works better for them then do that - to hell with what a study says or doesn't say


Go out there - live the bro-science and enjoy it.

Creatine is the most studied supplement and the science is already in. Bro-science has its place alright, but that place isn't here.

arayess

runawaybishop wrote: »

Creatine is the most studied supplement and the science is already in. Bro-science has its place alright, but that place isn't here.

You are right it has been studied to the nth degree , yet we still see new studies every week* with amazing results in creatine study. So the definitive will never (imo) be known.

If loading works for you load. If it doesn't don't.

Research and writings can point the way but the real test is how it effects you.
To blindly follow an action cos pubmed says so even though you don't find it beneficial is madness.
be it creatine or not.

*perhaps not weekly but you get the picture..

Alf Veedersane

Surely you'd start with what science suggests and then tweak to see if something works better rather than start with broscience, when both are available.

Anyway, on topic, Bulk Powders did a deal of 2.5kg of whey with 1kg free so that's 2015 sorted for 83 (including the 5kg for fiddy)

Oh yeah, plus €9 for Omega 369 and Vit B complex.