UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

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maximoose wrote: »

Article here

That's absolutely massive

Ken Shamrock

nm wrote: »

That's absolutely massive

Jaysus, that must be pushing 100,000

Davei141

Cereal Rapper wrote: »

No I get that and I'm not arguing against that. The guys he has fought all have a ton of decisions between them

Cathal: 11 Dec
Umalatov: 10 Dec
Spencer: 10 Dec
Howard: 15 Dec

So it's not surprising that he's been in some of the worst fights but he hasn't done anything to make himself stand out against these guys...

Give him a killer finisher next! Problem sorted. :pac:

CurryFlavoured

The only way I see Pendred in an entertaining fight is if he's beaten. I know the King fight was great but it could easily (probably should have) been stopped in the first. Its lose/lose, I don't want to see another borefest but i don't want him ktfo either.

BaZmO*

maximoose wrote: »

Article here

According to that article Manny Pacquiao fought there twice with an average attendance of 45K.



I think the stadium holds 80K for an American football match so with seats on the pitch it could be 100K. That's just nuts.

Mellor

pablohoney87 wrote: »

I'd say his point was more someone like Cody MacKenzie. Very good at subbing mediocre grapplers.

Ronda can obviously hang in there with the elite

It was about Chad having the best Power but nothing much else.

MacKenzie hasn't got the best guillotine, or anything like that.

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BaZmO* wrote: »

According to that article Manny Pacquiao fought there twice with an average attendance of 45K.



I think the stadium holds 80K for an American football match so with seats on the pitch it could be 100K. That's just nuts.

I've read it's 105k including the pitch. Huge.

SpaceCowb0y

Vegas was amazing (my first time there) but having been there already if i was going to make the trip over to see McGregor fight again so soon i'd happily welcome the move to Texas! See something new, and i'd say the atmosphere in the AT&T would be immense! I can't imagine it selling out 100K tickets but even 60+K at a UFC gig would be unreal! i definitely reckon McGregor V Aldo could easily top UFC 129 which had an attendance of 55K.

Was looking there and flights, accommo and a ticket would fall just under a grand for a friday to Monday jobbie. 3 nights would be enough this time i reckon.

DeVore

I hate to say it but I wonder if they would fill it without flooding their own market. I mean, the Irish travelled to see him win the belt and might well travel again (even though a lot of people might not be able to afford a second trip to the states so soon). Its scheduled provisionally for the day after New Year which might also be a problem (not to mention Xmas and the costs that that entails).

2,500 people travelled to see him from here apparently so even doubling that to 5K still leaves a lot of seats Brazillians would account for more than the Irish I guess but the majority would have to be taken up by Americans. Now I don't doubt they would sell the tickets provided they are priced right but with so many tickets to sell, they run the risk of flooding their own market. They certainly wouldn't get vegas prices for the vast majority of the seats....

BaZmO*

I suppose it'd depend on who's on the rest of the card.

glass half full

DeVore wrote: »

I hate to say it but I wonder if they would fill it without flooding their own market. I mean, the Irish travelled to see him win the belt and might well travel again (even though a lot of people might not be able to afford a second trip to the states so soon). Its scheduled provisionally for the day after New Year which might also be a problem (not to mention Xmas and the costs that that entails).

2,500 people travelled to see him from here apparently so even doubling that to 5K still leaves a lot of seats Brazillians would account for more than the Irish I guess but the majority would have to be taken up by Americans. Now I don't doubt they would sell the tickets provided they are priced right but with so many tickets to sell, they run the risk of flooding their own market. They certainly wouldn't get vegas prices for the vast majority of the seats....

The ticket prices would need to be lowered to fill this but I do feel the demand would be there. The amount of Americans wearing McGregor t-shirts etc. was amazing. He would have the support to fill it I would think.

The only thing is with Aldo's history of missing fights, they would have to stack the card huge.

SpaceCowb0y

I think its safe to say they could easily get 60K but yes ticket prices are obviously going to be starting much lower than they were for 189, nobody is going to fork out 250 lids to sit up the very top of the AT&T, you'd need binoculars to see anything! In fact i'd say for the 250 I paid for my tickets for 189 you'd probably do quite well in the stadium seat wise!

As said above the amount of Americans wearing the Mcgregor Reebok t-shirt and holding Tricolours was unreal! there was an entire row of Asians just in front of us and every one of them was cheering on McGregor and wearing the shirt!

Ken Shamrock

If they put another title shot on the same card as Jose vs Conor and put CM Punk's debut on as well i'd say they could easily fill the place up.

JustTheOne

If it is December 4 how does that tie in with tuf?

Would he be doing too much in a small timeframe.

Hazys

Don't forget Cowboys stadium has the worlds largest HD TVs which will be hanging over the octagon so whereever u sit you'll be fine.

Of the 100k seats a couple 1000 are standing in the Cowboy Experience zone which I presume will be closed for UFC, nobody is going to stand for 5/6 hours.

Still the stadium seems too large. How many are going to travel from Ireland? Certainly not as much UFC189 (Vegas factor, J1 factor) Vegas is close proximity to California is a big factor too a lot of people are within driving range while Dallas everybody's going to have to fly there

I don't I don't see them coming close to hundred thousand but if they're happy with 50,000 then let's do it

Hazys

Also what is the Dallas Cowboys schedule what weekends are they playing away in December?

stephenl15

JustTheOne wrote: »

If it is December 4 how does that tie in with tuf?

Would he be doing too much in a small timeframe.

TUF I think is seen as almost a break/holiday for Conor I think

raze_them_all_

Hazys wrote: »

Also what is the Dallas Cowboys schedule what weekends are they playing away in December?

It's december, there season will be over, you know that!

raze_them_all_

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

It's december, there season will be over, you know that!

was just about to post this

Foxtrol

Mellor wrote: »

The bolded part basically describes Ronda Rousey.
Extremely dominant with one sub, and absolutely the best grappler in the division.

That would only be a fair comparison to what I said if Ronda had her armbar but only average technique to take them down, which is clearly not the case. She’s also managed to do it to all comers in her division, whereas Chad’s KOs have come against guys that striking isn’t their background, he’s not been able to replicate it against strikers in the UFC – he’s been KO’d twice and one only a single round in the fight that went the distance.

Davei141

Foxtrol wrote: »

That would only be a fair comparison to what I said if Ronda had her armbar but only average technique to take them down, which is clearly not the case. She’s also managed to do it to all comers in her division, whereas Chad’s KOs have come against guys that striking isn’t their background, he’s not been able to replicate it against strikers in the UFC – he’s been KO’d twice and one only a single round in the fight that went the distance.

Jesus that is probably the worst argument of all time.

DeVore

I watched Gunni's fight again last night and the speed he takes his opponents back and gets two hooks in is absolutely terrifying. He's like a buttered eel on the ground. Really, watch it again and when his opponent gives up his back, watch the speed Gunni gets his feet in. O.o

Tazzimus

DeVore wrote: »

I watched Gunni's fight again last night and the speed he takes his opponents back and gets two hooks in is absolutely terrifying. He's like a buttered eel on the ground. Really, watch it again and when his opponent gives up his back, watch the speed Gunni gets his feet in. O.o

Seen someone describe him as being like an anaconda once it goes to the ground, perfect description I thought.

Myrddin

DeVore wrote: »

I watched Gunni's fight again last night and the speed he takes his opponents back and gets two hooks in is absolutely terrifying. He's like a buttered eel on the ground. Really, watch it again and when his opponent gives up his back, watch the speed Gunni gets his feet in. O.o

I thought the two strikes were class, but to see the ground work then was just pure art.

TimRiggins

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

If they put another title shot on the same card as Jose vs Conor and put CM Punk's debut on as well i'd say they could easily fill the place up.

Cowboy v RDA as the co-main and CM Punks debut would be immense.

Davei141

The return of Jon Jones would be appropriate for a stadium show.

John_D80

Myrddin wrote: »

I thought the two strikes were class, but to see the ground work then was just pure art.

Bang on. To be fair, there are very few that can match his BJJ pedigree or accolades in the entire UFC. Werdum, Jacare, Maia and a few more maybe.

In the WW top 15 now, you have Demian Maia and Gunnar Nelson as two almost indistinct dots on the horizon in terms of pure BJJ, by comparison to the rest IMO. (I bolded pure before anyone jumps down my throat LOL)

Would love to see a fight between the two of them in the future. Not right away though.

callaway92

TimRiggins wrote: »

Cowboy v RDA as the co-main and CM Punks debut would be immense.

This will either be in an event in Chicago or else early-main card at UFC 200.

DeVore

Davei141 wrote: »

The return of Jon Jones would be appropriate for a stadium show.

Coke Cola could sponsor it.... >.>

martyos121

They need to stack this card to the brim if they want to get anywhere near to a sellout of Cowboys stadium and the max they could get in my estimation is around the 85,000 mark. This is the kind of card I'd put up:

Aldo vs. McGregor MAIN EVENT
Rousey vs. Tate CO MAIN
CM Punk vs. ideally another debuting crossover athlete
Hendricks (Texas boy for the home crowd) vs. Condit title eliminator
Faber (might as well put both TUF coaches on the same card) vs. Sterling

I think that would do a good job of selling tickets and moving the needle, would be the strongest UFC card ever in terms of big names for certain. Will this happen, probably not, but they need to pull out all the stops to pull off a show in Cowboys Stadium.

Hazys

martyos121 wrote: »

They need to stack this card to the brim if they want to get anywhere near to a sellout of Cowboys stadium and the max they could get in my estimation is around the 85,000 mark. This is the kind of card I'd put up:

Aldo vs. McGregor MAIN EVENT
Rousey vs. Tate CO MAIN
CM Punk vs. ideally another debuting crossover athlete
Hendricks (Texas boy for the home crowd) vs. Condit title eliminator
Faber (might as well put both TUF coaches on the same card) vs. Sterling

I think that would do a good job of selling tickets and moving the needle, would be the strongest UFC card ever in terms of big names for certain. Will this happen, probably not, but they need to pull out all the stops to pull off a show in Cowboys Stadium.

Joseph Benavidez is from Texas but Mighty Mouse is fighting Dodson in September, maybe too quick of a turnaround.

I'm sure a latino fighter would draw a big crowd from the Mexican population in Texas

Davei141

martyos121 wrote: »

They need to stack this card to the brim if they want to get anywhere near to a sellout of Cowboys stadium and the max they could get in my estimation is around the 85,000 mark. This is the kind of card I'd put up:

Aldo vs. McGregor MAIN EVENT
Rousey vs. Tate CO MAIN
CM Punk vs. ideally another debuting crossover athlete
Hendricks (Texas boy for the home crowd) vs. Condit title eliminator
Faber (might as well put both TUF coaches on the same card) vs. Sterling

I think that would do a good job of selling tickets and moving the needle, would be the strongest UFC card ever in terms of big names for certain. Will this happen, probably not, but they need to pull out all the stops to pull off a show in Cowboys Stadium.

Ah man no offence but you have free reign to do what you want and you come up with that?:D

Keep Rousey well away unless it is vs Cyborg.

Conor vs Aldo.
Get Cowboy vs RDA as co- main.
Velasquez vs Ubereem.
Jacare vs Romero.
Faber vs Holloway (if he wins).
Hendricks vs Woodley.
Matt Brown vs Gunnar Nelson. .

Damn the possibilities for that card are crazy.

Ken Shamrock

Oooh fantasy cards.

Aldo vs McGregor
Robbie vs Hendricks
Mendes vs Edgar (winner fights champion after the rematch which will inevitably happen).
CM Punk vs (irrelevant in terms of drawing power)
DJ vs Cruz

I'd be into that anyway.

Joe24

Would love to see it in that stadium. Just can't see t happening though.

The UFC are in Houston on 3rd of October for UFC 192. Would they go back to the same market 2 months later with a stadium show?

As for dream cards:

McGregor vs Aldo Title Fight
Lawlor vs GSP Title Fight
Fedor vs someone (Arlovski/Hunt/Randy Couture??)
CM Punk vs someone (doesn't matter who)
Hendricks vs Woodley

That might go a long way to filling the stadium imo

mdwexford

McGregor vs Aldo vs Edgar (Triple Threat)
Anderson Silva vs GSP
Cain vs Jon Jones
Lawler vs Hendricks
Ronda vs Cyborg

Easy money :pac:

sonofenoch

Like womens football I just can't take womens fighting seriously.....watched a few of the weigh ins and chuckled a bit ......Ronda Rowsey big woopee doo :rolleyes: ....I know they're serious athletes and fight is real but does nothing for me

mrkiscool2

sonofenoch wrote: »

Like womens football I just can't take womens fighting seriously.....watched a few of the weigh ins and chuckled a bit ......Ronda Rowsey big woopee doo :rolleyes: ....I know they're serious athletes and fight is real but does nothing for me

Wow! That's bizarre, Rousey is a beast! Love watching that woman fight, incredible talent!

martyos121

Well at least my fantasy card was somewhat realistic! :pac:

PM me nudes

sonofenoch wrote: »

Like womens football I just can't take womens fighting seriously.....watched a few of the weigh ins and chuckled a bit ......Ronda Rowsey big woopee doo :rolleyes: ....I know they're serious athletes and fight is real but does nothing for me

Women's fights are regularly bloodbaths, what's not to love? :pac:

cletus

sonofenoch wrote: »

Like womens football I just can't take womens fighting seriously.....watched a few of the weigh ins and chuckled a bit ......Ronda Rowsey big woopee doo :rolleyes: ....I know they're serious athletes and fight is real but does nothing for me

Have you watched Joanna Champion's* last two fights? If they don't do anything for you, I dunno if you're still allowed call yourself a fight fan

* not going near that last name

sonofenoch

PM me nudes wrote: »

Women's fights are regularly bloodbaths, what's not to love? :pac:

I just can't take to women doing certain sports as a spectacle (for me) and get caught up in it the way you normally do......Katie Tayler being one of the few exceptions

raze_them_all_

sonofenoch wrote: »

I just can't take to women doing certain sports as a spectacle (for me) and get caught up in it the way you normally do......Katie Tayler being one of the few exceptions

Katie taylor has less competition than rousey ffs

ASOT

cletus wrote: »

Have you watched Joanna Champion's* last two fights? If they don't do anything for you, I dunno if you're still allowed call yourself a fight fan

* not going near that last name

Agree with this, Joanna champion is an absolute beast love watching her fight even though women fights don't really do it for me her and a few others would be an exception.

PM me nudes

sonofenoch wrote: »

I just can't take to women doing certain sports as a spectacle (for me) and get caught up in it the way you normally do......Katie Tayler being one of the few exceptions

I agree they're not as entertaining as men's fights, but Ronda and Joanna are absolute tanks and their fights are always spectacles. Just look at the numbers Ronda draws

sonofenoch

PM me nudes wrote: »

I agree they're not as entertaining as men's fights, but Ronda and Joanna are absolute tanks and their fights are always spectacles. Just look at the numbers Ronda draws

Not disputing the numbers, I did say it was just me......I just can't take certain womens sports ie footballl, Rugby or fighting seriously.....as a novelty maybe but I'd have no real interest

mdwexford

sonofenoch wrote: »

Not disputing the numbers, I did say it was just me......I just can't take certain womens sports ie footballl, Rugby or fighting seriously.....as a novelty maybe but I'd have no real interest

I was the same when the women's division was brought in but they won me over.

No one in the UFC comes out as focused and aggressive as Ronda.
Her walk on is class, love watching her.

Foxtrol

Davei141 wrote: »

Jesus that is probably the worst argument of all time.

Must be a bit embarrassing then that you were unable to correct me on a single point of it.

Davei141

Foxtrol wrote: »

Must be a bit embarrassing then that you were unable to correct me on a single point of it.

It makes no sense whatsoever. Cub Swanson, Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier better strikers than Mendes? You live in fantasy land, not one of those would get even a quarter of the success Mendes got against Aldo. Not even Edgar was close to that success. Your opinion is based on nothing, and the fact you say he just got 1 round in that second Aldo fight ignoring what actually transpired makes me think you haven't even seen the fight or are just talking rubbish for the sake of it.




Mendes average striking vs the greatest featherweight of all time. Please do keep doing mental gymnastics to justify talking boll0cks.

Foxtrol

Davei141 wrote: »

It makes no sense whatsoever. Cub Swanson, Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier better strikers than Mendes? You live in fantasy land, not one of those would get even a quarter of the success Mendes got against Aldo. Not even Edgar was close to that success. Your opinion is based on nothing, and the fact you say he just got 1 round in that second Aldo fight ignoring what actually transpired makes me think you haven't even seen the fight or are just talking rubbish for the sake of it.


Mendes average striking vs the greatest featherweight of all time. Please do keep doing mental gymnastics to justify talking boll0cks.

Care to show a picture of Aldo after the first fight???

I’ve repeatedly said he has power and is a dangerous striker because of it but the fact that he did so much damage to Aldo and lost 4 of the 5 rounds points the fact he relies on infrequent power shots than regular combinations that score points. He’ll do that sort of damage to a striker’s face over 5 rounds but on their feet will lose the decision every time.

So do you agree with Ken that he’s the second best striker in the division (how I was originally brought into this discussion)?

Dtp1979

sonofenoch wrote: »

Not disputing the numbers, I did say it was just me......I just can't take certain womens sports ie footballl, Rugby or fighting seriously.....as a novelty maybe but I'd have no real interest

Ye. How dare those cheeky girls leave the kitchen. Jesus how do there husbands let them away with it