UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

moneyman

Joanna is easily one of the best fighters to watch in the whole UFC IMO. Her striking is insane and she has a great personality.

Any chance she'll be on the Dublin card? I would absolutely love her as the main or co-main. Seems a stretch though.

Wrongway1985

Foxtrol wrote: »

Care to show a picture of Aldo after the first fight???

I’ve repeatedly said he has power and is a dangerous striker because of it but the fact that he did so much damage to Aldo and lost 4 of the 5 rounds pointsthe fact he relies on infrequent power shots than regular combinations that score points. He’ll do that sort of damage to a striker’s face over 5 rounds but on their feet will lose the decision every time.

So do you agree with Ken that he’s the second best striker in the division (how I was originally brought into this discussion)?

Thats how the judges scored it if you watched it, many at the time including myself had it 2-2 going into final round he really made Aldo work hard for his victory whatever way you look at it.

I really dunno what you are trying to say any fighter would love these "infrequent power shots" as you put it also any time he has been to decision he has won apart from Aldo, you do actually score points for damage too ya know.

Panic E

.ak wrote: »

A lot of people mock the bandwagoners

You have to laugh at those people, with their whole year of experience now in following Mr. Mcgregor.

Those MMA expert's who command superiority over others who are new to the thread. Bandwagoners :rolleyes:

Pulse8

Dana confirms they are looking at Cowboys stadium but not for the 5th

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/17/8991105/ufc-look-at-holding-aldo-vs-mcgregor-at-at-t-stadium-in-december

Cowboys have a home game on the 19th so that leaves the 12th really, unless it's Stephens Day lol
http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/season-schedule

Mellor

Early indicators/advance purchases are suggesting 189 did 700-1.1m buys on cable.
That's not including buys from ufc.tv, youtube, console etc

ASOT

Mellor wrote: »

Early indicators/advance purchases are suggesting 189 did 700-1.1m buys on cable.
That's not including buys from ufc.tv, youtube, console etc

That's absolutly amazing, absolutely delighted for Conor!

Ken Shamrock

Foxtrol wrote: »

Care to show a picture of Aldo after the first fight???

I’ve repeatedly said he has power and is a dangerous striker because of it but the fact that he did so much damage to Aldo and lost 4 of the 5 rounds points the fact he relies on infrequent power shots than regular combinations that score points. He’ll do that sort of damage to a striker’s face over 5 rounds but on their feet will lose the decision every time.

So do you agree with Ken that he’s the second best striker in the division (how I was originally brought into this discussion)?

Hahaha, how pathetic, why are you making sh1t up? I never said That.

wylie

I worried about the Aldo fight, Conor is a great fighter with great accuracy and serious power, but he looks like he is willing to take a few digs when landing his own, i know he took a few hard hits from mendes and took them well, but its a obvious weakness i think. Also his stance is very wide, could make him susceptible to Aldo's Kicks.

walshb

And to think Manny and Floyd shared 200 + million dollars for 12 rds of tag boxing. Glad Conor is getting a good crust!

PM me nudes

walshb wrote: »

And to think Manny and Floyd shared 200 + million dollars for 12 rds of tag boxing. Glad Conor is getting a good crust!

Boxing MMA

Hazys

Mellor wrote: »

Early indicators/advance purchases are suggesting 189 did 700-1.1m buys on cable.
That's not including buys from ufc.tv, youtube, console etc

How much cut of the $59 PPV is Conor getting?

scudzilla

Hazys wrote: »

How much cut of the $59 PPV is Conor getting?

Can't find the original contract but some years ago Randy Couture had a dispute and his contract came out, he got paid $936,000 as his PPV cut for the Tim Silva fight, now Conor would probably be getting a higher percentage and it sold SHED loads more PPV's, i'm guessing he's getting north of $3million

Here's all i could find

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct/31/sports/sp-ufc31

mdwexford

PM me nudes wrote: »

Boxing MMA

Does the bigger the size mean more boring?

PM me nudes

mdwexford wrote: »

Does the bigger the size mean more boring?

I much prefer MMA, but boxing absolutely dwarfs it

deadanonymau5

Tony McGregor is on The MMA hour at around 7.25pm today...should be interesting...:pac:

scudzilla

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

Tony McGregor is on The MMA hour at around 7.25pm today...should be interesting...:pac:

i don't know if i wanna watch that or not

Panic E

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

Tony McGregor

The first man to ever beat Conor McGregor, lol.

(Conor has talked about them getting physical over him wanting to pursue MMA until the first time Conor submitted him)

He's the definition of a proud father in fairness.

deadanonymau5

scudzilla wrote: »

i don't know if i wanna watch that or not

Id say it'll be what he said in the documentaries anyway. I want to hear what he says about fighting Conor when he was younger. I heard him jokingly reply to someone that it was the wife and not him :pac:

Panic E wrote: »

The first man to ever beat Conor McGregor, lol.

(Conor has talked about them getting physical over him wanting to pursue MMA until the first time Conor submitted him)

He's the definition of a proud father in fairness.

Haha.

I saw that interview with Helwani when they walked around the o2. Great interview.

Panic E

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I saw that interview with Helwani when they walked around the o2. Great interview.

That was a great interview and really shows his true character. Impossible not to like and respect the dude after that imo.

Conor has talked about it a few times, same here I would like to hear the da's version of events I just missed him there.

deadanonymau5

Panic E wrote: »

That was a great interview and really shows his true character. Impossible not to like and respect the dude after that imo.

Conor has talked about it a few times, same here I would like to hear the da's version of events I just missed him there.

Yeah, much different than how he comes across now though unfortunately. Nice peak behind the curtain of The McGregor Show though.

Click watch live, you can just rewind it on the bar that comes up when you put your cursor on the video.

Pulse8

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I saw that interview with Helwani when they walked around the o2. Great interview.

Link to that anywhere?

EuskalHerria

Pulse8 wrote: »

Link to that anywhere?

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/7/17/5912043/a-day-in-dublin-with-conor-mcgregor

ibrahimovic

EuskalHerria wrote: »

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/7/17/5912043/a-day-in-dublin-with-conor-mcgregor

Interesting in that Conor says him and his da had full on fist fights, but his dad on that phone chat earlier said it was always just verbal fights.

deadanonymau5

ibrahimovic wrote: »

Interesting in that Conor says him and his da had full on fist fights, but his dad on that phone chat earlier said it was always just verbal fights.

I'd believe Conor tbh. I doubt Tony would be too keen on talking about having a fist fight with his 16 year old son (IIRC) while he was ill.

dickwod1

ibrahimovic wrote: »

Interesting in that Conor says him and his da had full on fist fights, but his dad on that phone chat earlier said it was always just verbal fights.

Tony was wearing rose tinted glasses at the time

dickwod1

Good interview with Urijah

BaZmO*

Yeah watched that earlier. He actually came across as pretty sound in it.

deadanonymau5

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

I'd believe Conor tbh. I doubt Tony would be too keen on talking about having a fist fight with his 16 year old son (IIRC) while he was ill.

dickwod1 wrote: »

Tony was wearing rose tinted glasses at the time

I think all taxi drivers get a free pair when they get their plates

DeVore

Uriah has some balls to talk about Conor being "full on delusional" with that sort of interview. Chad did not just get hit with one clean shot, and did not dominate the fight "from the start up to the stoppage"

raze_them_all_

DeVore wrote: »

Uriah has some balls to talk about Conor being "full on delusional" with that sort of interview. Chad did not just get hit with one clean shot, and did not dominate the fight "from the start up to the stoppage"

to be fair he's mates and in his camp of course he is going to say that. Just like connor will also say the fight went exactly how he wanted it too or something similar

CatFromHue

DeVore wrote: »

Uriah has some balls to talk about Conor being "full on delusional" with that sort of interview. Chad did not just get hit with one clean shot, and did not dominate the fight "from the start up to the stoppage"

He certainly dominated the majority of the second round and I would have thought would have won the first round too.

Saipanne

CatFromHue wrote: »

He certainly dominated the majority of the second round and I would have thought would have won the first round too.

Why the first? Conor had him pinned to the cage for every moment they were standing. Chad managed a couple of takedowns, and a few elbows.

Pudsy33

Saipanne wrote: »

Why the first? Conor had him pinned to the cage for every moment they were standing. Chad managed a couple of takedowns, and a few elbows.

Takedown are generally worth a lot more in the judges eyes than strikes.

SureYWouldntYa

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Takedown are generally worth a lot more in the judges eyes than strikes.

when you're ko'ing people, judges don't matter

raze_them_all_

Saipanne wrote: »

Why the first? Conor had him pinned to the cage for every moment they were standing. Chad managed a couple of takedowns, and a few elbows.

a few elbows that opened conor up. Visual damage. Judges eat it up

Mellor

CatFromHue wrote: »

He certainly dominated the majority of the second round and I would have thought would have won the first round too.

Sure, he may have controlled longish periods of the fight, but he got severely outstruck overall too. It's a bit much to suggest Conor only landed one clean shot at the end.
He landed 74 compared to Mendes' 36 overall. He landed more total and significant strikes in individual rounds too.
Nobody should he trying to take anything away from either fighter.
It's stupid for Uriah, (or anyone), to try to tell us what happened- we seen the fight.

jjdonegal

Saipanne wrote: »

Why the first? Conor had him pinned to the cage for every moment they were standing. Chad managed a couple of takedowns, and a few elbows.

Won it on all 3 judges scorecards unless I'm mistaken.

Saipanne

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

when you're ko'ing people, judges don't matter

Exactly, it doesn't really matter, I suppose. McGregor won. End of.

stephenl15

When watching it live, I gave the 1st round to Mendes. Probably thinking every little thing Chad did was bad for Conor he'll never get up, getting sucked in etc. But having watched it over I think the 1st round was definitely Conors. He destroyed him on the feet for the most part of the round.

ASOT

Yeah i would have scored it 1-1 myself, but then again it easily could have been 2-0.

darced

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Fromvert

Watching it back I gave the first round to Conor as he controlled more of the fight landed a lot more than I remembered, had it for Chad on first viewing.
Second round was going to go to Chad until Conor got up and stopped him. Even if Herb let it go to the bell, does Mendes still win that round after being knocked down and nearly finished? I don't think he does, best case scenario for Chad was 9-9 in that one.

Judges might score it differently but that's how I saw it on second viewing, more relaxed and sober.

jjdonegal

Fromvert wrote: »

Watching it back I gave the first round to Conor as he controlled more of the fight landed a lot more than I remembered, had it for Chad on first viewing.
Second round was going to go to Chad until Conor got up and stopped him. Even if Herb let it go to the bell, does Mendes still win that round after being knocked down and nearly finished? I don't think he does, best case scenario for Chad was 9-9 in that one.

Judges might score it differently but that's how I saw it on second viewing, more relaxed and sober.

10 point must system as far as I know.

Paully D

Fromvert wrote: »

Watching it back I gave the first round to Conor as he controlled more of the fight landed a lot more than I remembered, had it for Chad on first viewing.
Second round was going to go to Chad until Conor got up and stopped him. Even if Herb let it go to the bell, does Mendes still win that round after being knocked down and nearly finished? I don't think he does, best case scenario for Chad was 9-9 in that one.

Judges might score it differently but that's how I saw it on second viewing, more relaxed and sober.

As JJ says, it's a ten-point must system so it has to go at least 10-9 to one of them.

I completely agree with John Kavanagh regarding the need for the scoring of fights to be reviewed. It seems if you score a takedown at all you tend to win that round regardless of whatever else happens.

Subcomandante Marcos

I had Chad 10-9 in the first, take downs, a couple of big rights and ground control = he took the round but not by much, and a minimum of 10-8 in the second until the failed guillotine, if he had of just kept on the mat and dropping elbows and made it to the end of the round I had him 20-17 up. But like others have said, points don't matter if the match doesn't make it to the end of 5 rounds and Mendes was never going to make it to the end of 5 rounds with 2 weeks notice and only one day of sparing in the lead up.

Davei141

Paully D wrote: »

As JJ says, it's a ten-point must system so it has to go at least 10-9 to one of them.

I completely agree with John Kavanagh regarding the need for the scoring of fights to be reviewed. It seems if you score a takedown at all you tend to win that round regardless of whatever else happens.

This is not true anymore at all.

Fromvert

jjdonegal wrote: »

10 point must system as far as I know.

Paully D wrote: »

As JJ says, it's a ten-point must system so it has to go at least 10-9 to one of them.

I completely agree with John Kavanagh regarding the need for the scoring of fights to be reviewed. It seems if you score a takedown at all you tend to win that round regardless of whatever else happens.

10-10 so but I don't think I can give it to either if it doesn't get stopped. Chad controlled and dominated most of the round but got cracked a few times, knocked down and would of been nearly finished if the round wasn't stopped.

I just don't buy the Chad was clearly ahead if it wasn't stopped line people are using.

jjdonegal

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I had Chad 10-9 in the first, take downs, a couple of big rights and ground control = he took the round but not by much, and a minimum of 10-8 in the second until the failed guillotine, if he had of just kept on the mat and dropping elbows and made it to the end of the round I had him 20-17 up. But like others have said, points don't matter if the match doesn't make it to the end of 5 rounds and Mendes was never going to make it to the end of 5 rounds with 2 weeks notice and only one day of sparing in the lead up.

I also had it 10-9 Mendes in the 1st and same 2nd up to the finish.
I'd have to disagree with your 10-8 observation as McGregor was working sufficiently from the bottom and hit 4/5 crisp elbows that hurt Mendes. Personsally I only score 10-8s for clear domination and I personally would not classify that round as domination. Indeed in many people's eyes it was 50/50.

Saipanne

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I had Chad 10-9 in the first, take downs, a couple of big rights and ground control = he took the round but not by much, and a minimum of 10-8 in the second until the failed guillotine, if he had of just kept on the mat and dropping elbows and made it to the end of the round I had him 20-17 up. But like others have said, points don't matter if the match doesn't make it to the end of 5 rounds and Mendes was never going to make it to the end of 5 rounds with 2 weeks notice and only one day of sparing in the lead up.

All those punches to the head couldn't have helped, either....

A small point, I know.

Fromvert

To score a 10-8 you usually have to dominate completely, not sit in someone's guard and throw elbows. You pretty much need to have them on ice skates during the round. A lot of damage needs to be scored.