UFC 189 - McGregor v Mendes *READ MOD WARNING IN 1st POST*

JJayoo

jjdonegal wrote: »

I also had it 10-9 Mendes in the 1st and same 2nd up to the finish.
I'd have to disagree with your 10-8 observation as McGregor was working sufficiently from the bottom and hit 4/5 crisp elbows that hurt Mendes. Personsally I only score 10-8s for clear domination and I personally would not classify that round as domination. Indeed in many people's eyes it was 50/50.

Conor was doing zero damage from the bottom, I mean when he was landing these "crisp elbows" Chad wasn't getting hurt he was actually complaining to the rep about them assuming they were 12-6 and illegal.

jjdonegal

JJayoo wrote: »

Conor was doing zero damage from the bottom, I mean when he was landing these "crisp elbows" Chad wasn't getting hurt he was actually complaining to the rep about them assuming they were 12-6 and illegal.

Complaining wud indicate to me they were having an effect. I'd imagine having 4/5 elbows driven into your head will hurt somewhat.
Never said he was doing damage; I said he was working sufficiently to avoid a 10-8 round.
A 10-8 in my books is domination and in my opinion it wasn't a 10-8 but each to their own I suppose.

Easy Rod

JJayoo wrote: »

Conor was doing zero damage from the bottom, I mean when he was landing these "crisp elbows" Chad wasn't getting hurt he was actually complaining to the rep about them assuming they were 12-6 and illegal.

There is no way, no matter how tinted your glasses are, that you could say those elbows were doing zero damage. It's just not possible.

He was also complaining that they were hitting the back of the head not that they were 12 - 6.

raze_them_all_

Easy Rod wrote: »

There is no way, no matter how tinted your glasses are, that you could say those elbows were doing zero damage. It's just not possible.

He was also complaining that they were hitting the back of the head not that they were 12 - 6.

those elbows don't really hurt, they are just annoying tbh

Easy Rod

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

those elbows don't really hurt, they are just annoying tbh

War Machine Vs. Jared Rollins.

Anyway, it's slightly off track, I was just agreeing with JJDonegal that there's no case for a 10-8. I probably had a 10-9 Mendes myself.

JJayoo

Easy Rod wrote: »

There is no way, no matter how tinted your glasses are, that you could say those elbows were doing zero damage. It's just not possible.

He was also complaining that they were hitting the back of the head not that they were 12 - 6.

First of all he was complaining that they were the 12-6 elbows, 12- 6 elbows are illegal when they are moving with gravity and IMO those elbows weren't doing any sort or accumulative damage, also how would it even be possible for Conor to land elbows to the back of Chad's head in that position

I'm sure they were sore, but the amount of force you can generate from that position and with that distance is minuscule to the force you can deliver when you create space on top. Of the top of my head I can only think of one instance of a knockout from the bottom = Uriah Hall on TUF but I am sure there are more out there. To hear people say the exchange on the ground was equal is ridiculous

Plus If they were badly hurting Chad his first response would be to defend them either through blocking or closing the distance it certainly wouldn't be to start talking to the ref.

JJayoo

Easy Rod wrote: »

War Machine Vs. Jared Rollins.

Anyway, it's slightly off track, I was just agreeing with JJDonegal that there's no case for a 10-8. I probably had a 10-9 Mendes myself.

Oh well I agree with ye then, I may not have read the other posts properly , I thought ye were saying that both fighters had inflicted equal damage while on the ground.

Annually even more off topic I always thought that Condit actually did a lot of damage to GSP off his back, especially when all it can take is one cut over the eye to end a fight

Easy Rod

JJayoo wrote: »

First of all he was complaining that they were the 12-6 elbows, 12- 6 elbows are illegal when they are moving with gravity and IMO those elbows weren't doing any sort or accumulative damage, also how would it even be possible for Conor to land elbows to the back of Chad's head in that position

I'm sure they were sore, but the amount of force you can generate from that position and with that distance is minuscule to the force you can deliver when you create space on top. Of the top of my head I can only think of one instance of a knockout from the bottom = Uriah Hall on TUF but I am sure there are more out there. To hear people say the exchange on the ground was equal is ridiculous

Plus If they were badly hurting Chad his first response would be to defend them either through blocking or closing the distance it certainly wouldn't be to start talking to the ref.

I actually thought this when I first watched it but upon rewatching you can see what Chad is complaining about - he thinks it's the 'back of his head' (As in the Ref's definition of back of the head not the literal definition as we view it i.e.

Mellor

Rounds are scored at the end of the round, its impossible for Chad to be given the 2nd round if we are talking about the actual fight.

Hypothetically, if it wasn't stopped and McGregor stood over him for 4 more seconds landing 6-8 more strikes. There's no way McGregor doesn't get the 2nd round imo, based on landing way more strikes, stuffing the takesdown, and near finish.

mdwexford

First round was close, viewing it drunk I thought it was defo Chads. On more viewings it's closer and probably Conor's but could go either way, especially with some of the judging that goes on.

Second was obviously Chads till the sub attempt, as Mellor says it's impossible to score after seeing what happened.

Dtp1979

This has to be the biggest mma thread ever on boards. It's only 3 weeks old and has over 3,000 posts. The offical conor thread is 2 years old and just has over 5,000

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

This has to be the biggest mma thread ever on boards. It's only 3 weeks old and has over 3,000 posts. The offical conor thread is 2 years old and just has over 5,000

It's all the blow-in's. Like me. This the only MMA thread I've ever posted in.

DeVore

Everyone starts somewhere...



Remember, when I first came here all this was just 0's there were no 1's at all. </GrampaSimpson>

Swashbuckler

Just read an article on MMA Junkie about the PPV buys for the event. UFC.com are reporting 1 million buys for the event on McGregors biography.

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/conor-McGregor

Do we believe the hype machine?

Davei141

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Just read an article on MMA Junkie about the PPV buys for the event. UFC.com are reporting 1 million buys for the event on McGregors biography.

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/conor-McGregor

Do we believe the hype machine?

Na I don't. I think they did very well but didn't hit a million. Why release a figure like 1 million anyway? give the exact figure if you want to be believed. Saying they hit a million is just too convenient PR wise without any actual figures. Now you will hear it out of Conors mouth all the time, it is all just too convenient IMO.

Easy Rod

Davei141 wrote: »

Na I don't. I think they did very well but didn't hit a million. Why release a figure like 1 million anyway? give the exact figure if you want to be believed. Saying they hit a million is just too convenient PR wise without any actual figures. Now you will hear it out of Conors mouth all the time, it is all just too convenient IMO.

It probably means somewhere between 950k and 1.05m I'd imagine.

Not too fussed if they're rounding up really.

What does "Chad went from 48/48 into half a rock flat" mean?

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/624682070627893248?lang=en-gb

Dempsey

Deleted User wrote: »

What does "Chad went from 48/48 into half a rock flat" mean?

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/624682070627893248?lang=en-gb

Half a million. No wonder he turned up with only 2 weeks training under his belt! :pac:

martyos121

Deleted User wrote: »

What does "Chad went from 48/48 into half a rock flat" mean?

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/624682070627893248?lang=en-gb

The 48/48 means he earned $48k appearance and $48k win bonus for the Lamas fight. The "half a rock flat" is half a million.

Paully D

Video of John Kavanagh and McGregor rolling back in 2013. Anyone recognise the escape?

https://www.facebook.com/330004463766331/videos/679399102160197/

Bandana boy

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

those elbows don't really hurt, they are just annoying tbh

The great Polka Dot one (RIP) would disagree about what damage an elbow to the head can do

slicus ricus

Bandana boy wrote: »

The great Polka Dot one (RIP) would disagree about what damage an elbow to the head can do

Think you're in the wrong forum:rolleyes:.

sonofenoch

I watched the Ronda Rowsey fight the other night for those commenting on womens fights a few pages back.......sorry but no I just don't get it, yeah she can fight for what it is .......but the whole thing holds about as much appeal for me as WWF wrestlemania or similar novelty acts

Saipanne

sonofenoch wrote: »

I watched the Ronda Rowsey fight the other night for those commenting on womens fights a few pages back.......sorry but no I just don't get it, yeah she can fight for what it is .......but the whole thing holds about as much appeal for me as WWF wrestlemania or similar novelty acts

2/10

Zero-Cool

Jaysus close this thread already please.

Tinie

sonofenoch wrote: »

I watched the Ronda Rowsey fight the other night for those commenting on womens fights a few pages back.......sorry but no I just don't get it, yeah she can fight for what it is .......but the whole thing holds about as much appeal for me as WWF wrestlemania or similar novelty acts

Brush up on your trolling, poor attempt.

sonofenoch

Tinie wrote: »

Brush up on your trolling, poor attempt.

No it's my opinion to which I'm entitled, and before anyone mentions kitchens or whatever nonsense it's not an anti-women thing.......there are many women's sports that are on a par and in some cases better than mens, Athletics and many other Olympic sports are top notch........but some just don't crossover (for me) .....fighting be it boxing MMA or soccer are just poor affairs as a spectacle

sonofenoch

sonofenoch wrote: »

I watched the Ronda Rowsey fight the other night for those commenting on womens fights a few pages back.......sorry but no I just don't get it, yeah she can fight for what it is .......but the whole thing holds about as much appeal for me as WWF wrestlemania or similar novelty acts

What this got to do with McGregor v Mendes?

sonofenoch

Deleted User wrote: »

What this got to do with McGregor v Mendes?

Few pages back there was talk of Rousey being on the main card with McGregor/Aldo .....that's to replace the caliber of Lawler/McDonald? I'd feel robbed paying for a ticket ........but as mentioned the numbers would stack up (but I can't see it) that's me personally my view :rolleyes:

DrPhilG

sonofenoch wrote: »

Few pages back there was talk of Rousey being on the main card with McGregor/Aldo .....that's to replace the caliber of Lawler/McDonald? I'd feel robbed paying for a ticket ........but as mentioned the numbers would stack up (but I can't see it) that's me personally my view :rolleyes:

As the man said, what does that have to do with McGregor vs Mendes?

This is the UFC 189 thread (again, why is this still open? Surely anything else of relevance should go on the McGregor thread?)

DrPhilG

sonofenoch wrote: »

Few pages back there was talk of Rousey being on the main card with McGregor/Aldo .....that's to replace the caliber of Lawler/McDonald? I'd feel robbed paying for a ticket ........but as mentioned the numbers would stack up (but I can't see it) that's me personally my view :rolleyes:

As the man said, what does that have to do with McGregor vs Mendes?

This is the UFC 189 thread (again, why is this still open? Surely anything else of relevance should go on the McGregor thread?)

dulux99

I think if you've followed the UFC for any considerable time you can see, and understand, that the Irish stadium show is never going to happen. How long have they been talking about doing the dallas cowboys stadium? At least 6 years. A few years ago they said they were doing 3 stadium shows in one year in Brazil alone. They are forever spouting nonsense like this.

El Guapo!

Mod: Lads, this thread is for discussion of UFC 189. Any other discussion goes in the McGregor thread or in the General thread (whichever is more appropriate).
Stay on topic and drop the ****e talk about women's mma and WWE please.

jcd5971

El Guapo! wrote: »

Mod: Lads, this thread is for discussion of UFC 189. Any other discussion goes in the McGregor thread or in the General thread (whichever is more appropriate).
Stay on topic and drop the ****e talk about women's mma and WWE please.

Exactly most of the women's fights are brilliant to be fair.

Paully D

A year to the day already.

What a night that was. Definitely my favourite night of UFC action ever. The emotions experienced that night were something else.

Depp

Paully D wrote: »

A year to the day already.

What a night that was. Definitely my favourite night of UFC action ever. The emotions experienced that night were something else.

very close second to 196 for me in terms of favourites but was a great night/morning to be fair, won 25 quid on a scratchcard that morning aswel actually now i think of it!

JinkyJackson

Imagine thinking that night, that he'd have knocked out Aldo in 13 seconds, lose to Nate Diaz at 170 and going for a rematch by next year. I didn't even think he'd get past chad

I'll never forget 189 through, was like an Italia 90 moment.. I still get the gawks thinking about Rory's nose

jcd5971

My pocket is still sore from that week in Vegas was amazing atmosphere though best sporting event I was ever at.

but1er

My facebook memories is depressing me:( still paying it back, worth it

That_Guy

but1er wrote: »

My facebook memories is depressing me:( still paying it back, worth it

Stop. Between meeting Dos Anjos/Werdum/Pettis and ticking an item off the bucket list (fights in Vegas), today sucks major balls.

Especially given how shíte the weather is today.

but1er

That_Guy wrote: »

Stop. Between meeting Dos Anjos/Werdum/Pettis and ticking an item off the bucket list (fights in Vegas), today sucks major balls.

Especially given how shíte the weather is today.

Getting too see 3 fight cards in Vegas, meeting the likes of bj Penn cm punk ben Rothwell, Faber just magic

Paully D

Exactly two years ago today. Still my favourite card ever and I don't think it will be topped any time soon. Great memories.

DrPhilG

Went to this with my best mate. I remember the despair of the first round thinking that all the comments about a wrestler being his kryptonite might have been true. Then the roar of the crowd when he got back to his feet and the insane elation of that big left that dropped Mendes.

Epic.

XsApollo

It was the best night of his career so far , for me watching anyway.
The atmosphere, even watching was unreal.
A massive amount of Irish there too
Could he , couldn't he.
It wasn't a quick finish or a demotion job either.
He was in trouble for a spell also, and was his biggest test to date I think.
Yea you can say the Diaz fights were harder for him, but it was easy for him in the first and second rounds of those fights until he starts gassing, which causes his downfall.
It was different vs Mendes ,the first and second rounds weren't easy, he was properly tested in them and was in trouble for a bit.

Anyway the highlight of his career for me so far.

Duff

I was in San Francisco for the summer and myself and 3 mates rented an SUV, payed through the nose for tickets and drove to Vegas. Hands down, the best weekend of my life. Italia '90 moment for me.

JoeyJJ

Unreal event to attend, my birthday then and now I'm two years older Already thinking of booking flights and hotel for International week next year.

dulux99

Brilliant week, brilliant night. Was always on my bucket list to go to a big fight in Vegas and couldn't have gone to a better event.

Mellor

These was such a great event. Was only thinking about this during the week when one if the lads decided he's going to go the Vegas for his stag. It's a sign

DrPhilG

sc86

dont think no matter what he does the buzz of this night will be beat
now you just expect great things

back then you still kinda had your doubts if he really was all we hoped