Irish Rail Jobs Discussion

Johnjamesp

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Is that for the driving jobs?

Yeah. I'm not built for bigging myself up, the Irish in me!

Hilly Bill

Johnjamesp wrote: »

Yeah. I'm not built for bigging myself up, the Irish in me!

If it's the same form I'm thinking about , it wouldn't be timed and you will be asked to explain a bit more about your answers at the interview. Its those have you worked as a team, under pressure , problem solving etc.
I've never went or want to go for the driving but done an interview for something else a while ago. They also go through your self assessment scores with you.
Apologies if you've already done all this.

blue movie

We had 20 minutes to fill it out but it was ample time to be honest.

Andybar88

blue movie wrote: »

We had 20 minutes to fill it out but it was ample time to be honest.

So for now their looking for you to write the basic answer then in the interview to go into detail??

Johnjamesp

Andybar88 wrote: »

So for now their looking for you to write the basic answer then in the interview to go into detail??

We had 25 minutes, I used every second of it. When you are attempting to display your competency in the skill they are querying it is only just enough time. And yes I assume detail will be elaborated on in the interview.

prinzeugen

They go into it in more detail at both interviews. Think about your answers/examples well in advance. Your head will be melted by the time you are asked to write your examples and a few people said they just wrote the first thing that came into their head, even although it may not have been the best thing.

If you think of a better example later then you get the opportunity to change it at the first interview (as I did) but not at the second interview.

Johnjamesp

prinzeugen wrote: »

They go into it in more detail at both interviews. Think about your answers/examples well in advance. Your head will be melted by the time you are asked to write your examples and a few people said they just wrote the first thing that came into their head, even although it may not have been the best thing.

If you think of a better example later then you get the opportunity to change it at the first interview (as I did) but not at the second interview.

There is 2 more interviews after that stage?

SmahedDrake

Hi everyone, would it be cheeky to ask what the exact skills are that they asked for in phase 2?

Andybar88

Johnjamesp wrote: »

There is 2 more interviews after that stage?

From what I can gather from previous comments there is 2 interviews. Jobs with a panel list generally ask candidates to attend 2 interviews.

Irish Rail Informer

When filling out the competency assessment (170+ questions) think like a train driver, or what you imagine it's like;
Do you like to work alone? Are you safety orientated? customer focused? Calm in an emergency? attention to detail? like to follow strict rules?
All the questions are based around these areas, and just rephrased in a different way multiple times.


Then there are 2 interviews on the day, 1st interview with one person from HR, who will review your competency assessment.
The second interview is with 3 people, HR, District Manager and DTE (ensures rules and Safety are followed)

if you have the following in mind and real life examples of when you demonstrated these skills you'll be ok

§ Excellent Communication Skills
§ Calm in an Emergency
§ Follow Rules and Procedures
§ Conscientious
§ Customer Focus
§ Achievement Orientation

So put a bit of work in prior to phase 2 competency and interviews by writing out a couple of examples of each of the above 6 points;

Willie Stroker 1976

Irish Rail Informer wrote: »

When filling out the competency assessment (170+ questions) think like a train driver, or what you imagine it's like;
Do you like to work alone? Are you safety orientated? customer focused? Calm in an emergency? attention to detail? like to follow strict rules?
All the questions are based around these areas, and just rephrased in a different way multiple times.


Then there are 2 interviews on the day, 1st interview with one person from HR, who will review your competency assessment.
The second interview is with 3 people, HR, District Manager and DTE (ensures rules and Safety are followed)

if you have the following in mind and real life examples of when you demonstrated these skills you'll be ok

§ Excellent Communication Skills
§ Calm in an Emergency
§ Follow Rules and Procedures
§ Conscientious
§ Customer Focus
§ Achievement Orientation

So put a bit of work in prior to phase 2 competency and interviews by writing out a couple of examples of each of the above 6 points;

Thank you very much

Willie Stroker 1976

For stage two, would anyone be able to give an example of how the 16 personality factors part of the test work please? Don’t expect a detailed answer but even just an idea of how it works and what to expect. Thanks in advance

missoptimistic

It's 170 questions with three answers , mostly true or false, and 10 extra questions at the end. It takes about 40 mins to an hour to complete, they say answer honestly , because it's not a test, they are sent onto the OPC psychiatrist who looks over them to see if you are in a good place mentally for driving a train!

Willie Stroker 1976

missoptimistic wrote: »

It's 170 questions with three answers , mostly true or false, and 10 extra questions at the end. It takes about 40 mins to an hour to complete, they say answer honestly , because it's not a test, they are sent onto the OPC psychiatrist who looks over them to see if you are in a good place mentally for driving a train!

Thanks a million for this. Was wondering if it was something I’d need to also prepare for but I guess not

M7roadrunner

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

Thanks a million for this. Was wondering if it was something I’d need to also prepare for but I guess not

Something similar to this
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/16PF.php
The last few questions are difficult enough, because of the way they are phrased, also some number sequence questions.
Good luck with it.

Andybar88

How do you all think you did in phase 2?

Tejay86

Did anyone get called for the 16pf interview yet?

M7roadrunner

Tejay86 wrote: »

Did anyone get called for the 16pf interview yet?

Yep, medical and 16pf pre interview next week.
Only done my phase 2 last Thursday, and the invitation came Monday.

Tejay86

M7roadrunner wrote: »

Yep, medical and 16pf pre interview next week.
Only done my phase 2 last Thursday, and the invitation came Monday.

Yup done mine on Tuesday. Wonder is it everyone that done the phase 2 doing the interview or did some not get through

Andybar88

I just got mine there only did phase 2 yesterday

prinzeugen

Tejay86 wrote: »

Yup done mine on Tuesday. Wonder is it everyone that done the phase 2 doing the interview or did some not get through

Its odd that they are calling people in for the 16pf interview. It might be a way of them speeding up the process.


Myself and I think everyone else so far has done the 16pf interview and the line manager interview one after the other on the same day.

Willie Stroker 1976

Wasn’t the 16pf part not included in stage 2?

Tejay86

Probably because of covid, make sense why the are doing it via video chat. Any one have any idea of how many positions they are actually looking to fill?

Willie Stroker 1976

Tejay86 wrote: »

Probably because of covid, make sense why the are doing it via video chat. Any one have any idea of how many positions they are actually looking to fill?

100 over 4 years so assuming 25 a year maybe

prinzeugen

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

Wasn’t the 16pf part not included in stage 2?

You fill out the form at stage 2. At the 16pf interview they discuss your your 16pf profile and go over the pre-interview form.

missoptimistic

Has anyone heard back yet after doing Phase 2? I am assuming we will hear whether we got through to medical/interview or not? At least I'm hoping because I did it last Friday and haven't heard back yet!

missoptimistic

Andybar88 wrote: »

How do you all think you did in phase 2?

Starting to think not all that well, since I haven't heard anything back

Moshman

missoptimistic wrote: »

Has anyone heard back yet after doing Phase 2? I am assuming we will hear whether we got through to medical/interview or not? At least I'm hoping because I did it last Friday and haven't heard back yet!

Was in the other day, haven't heard anything and to be honest, I'm not expecting to. Eyes still haven't recovered from the dot moving/ shape match thingie on the screen....made a total mess of it.

Best of luck to anyone still in with a chance....

Willie Stroker 1976

Moshman wrote: »

Was in the other day, haven't heard anything and to be honest, I'm not expecting to. Eyes still haven't recovered from the dot moving/ shape match thingie on the screen....made a total mess of it.

Best of luck to anyone still in with a chance....

To be fair that was an absolute pain in the hole. Felt hypnotised by it

Tejay86

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

To be fair that was an absolute pain in the hole. Felt hypnotised by it

They were awful. Then when they went from 2 to 3. And the dots and the shapes. I thought it was never going to end. I never realised how alike a triangle and trapezoid are either 😂

missoptimistic

Moshman wrote: »

Was in the other day, haven't heard anything and to be honest, I'm not expecting to. Eyes still haven't recovered from the dot moving/ shape match thingie on the screen....made a total mess of it.

Best of luck to anyone still in with a chance....

I thought I did quite well on it, I had a couple of errors, maybe 10 in total of the three rounds ... and I think I did ok on the other stuff, I felt though, that I didn't sell myself well enough in the interview part, or maybe.my SJT answers didnt match up! It's been over 1.5 years since I originally applied

Moshman

missoptimistic wrote: »

I thought I did quite well on it, I had a couple of errors, maybe 10 in total of the three rounds ... and I think I did ok on the other stuff, I felt though, that I didn't sell myself well enough in the interview part, or maybe.my SJT answers didnt match up! It's been over 1.5 years since I originally applied

If I only had 10 or so errors on that test I'd be expecting a call from NASA, not Irish rail. Don't give up on it yet, you're still in until you hear otherwise....

missoptimistic

Has anyone heard back to say they "Haven't" been successful!?

I was just expecting that it takes a while to get through all of the results of all of the people, until I read that someone got an invite for the interview after just doing the test yesterday!

whisky_galore

Is all this for driving trains or for a manned mission to Mars??

Deedsie

Could someone describe what the vision part of the medical entails in detail?

Andybar88

I received my interview invitation yesterday I think I read someone got their medical date, did anyone else get this and was it with the interview email or separate?

M7roadrunner

Andybar88 wrote: »

I received my interview invitation yesterday I think I read someone got their medical date, did anyone else get this and was it with the interview email or separate?

I received an invitation to a medical and an invitation to a pre interview on teams via the same email on Monday gone, after I had my phase 2 on the Thursday before that.

prinzeugen

Deedsie wrote: »

Could someone describe what the vision part of the medical entails in detail?

I went through the medical a while ago and described the eye test for someone else. On the mobile so can't find it atm but it would be a post here from about Jan this year onwards.

For anyone doing the first interview.. It's a structured interview so you need to sell yourself when you do it. If you can think of better examples than you put on paper at stage 2, change them.

I got right though to the final interview but didn't get the job. Best of luck folks!

MrBumBum

Deedsie wrote: »

Could someone describe what the vision part of the medical entails in detail?

The usual eye chart reading from top to bottom with either eye. Also a colour blindness test where you tell them what number you see on the card full of coloured dots. I've heard a mention of others having some other test but the above was all that I did.

Mojo Risin

Hey, has anyone heard anything about when they will be resuming/or starting new training classes for the drivers positions?

Eddie Ere

prinzeugen wrote: »

I went through the medical a while ago and described the eye test for someone else. On the mobile so can't find it atm but it would be a post here from about Jan this year onwards.

For anyone doing the first interview.. It's a structured interview so you need to sell yourself when you do it. If you can think of better examples than you put on paper at stage 2, change them.

I got right though to the final interview but didn't get the job. Best of luck folks!

In regards the interview, are you referring to the 16pf interview or the one with the panel? Can I change the examples I used on my pre interview form?

Willie Stroker 1976

Has anyone who took stage 2 on Thursday heard anything back yet?

blue movie

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

Has anyone who took stage 2 on Thursday heard anything back yet?

Haven't heard anything back and I was in the Thursday before you I'm not hopeful at all now

Willie Stroker 1976

blue movie wrote: »

Haven't heard anything back and I was in the Thursday before you I'm not hopeful at all now

I was in Thurs 23rd and also no word, losing hope. But then no rejection email yet either so I guess we aren’t out just yet. Hope you hear back soon. Also I felt I aced stage 2.

Moshman

Willie Stroker 1976 wrote: »

I was in Thurs 23rd and also no word, losing hope. But then no rejection email yet either so I guess we aren’t out just yet. Hope you hear back soon. Also I felt I aced stage 2.

They're obviously saving the best for last. You're still in until you hear otherwise....

Willie Stroker 1976

Moshman wrote: »

They're obviously saving the best for last. You're still in until you hear otherwise....

Fingers crossed. At the point now where I’m Checking emails constantly

prinzeugen

Eddie Ere wrote: »

In regards the interview, are you referring to the 16pf interview or the one with the panel? Can I change the examples I used on my pre interview form?

I changed the situation. Gave an example etc. The interview is about YOU.


I did not get the job.

interview was pre Covid,

Andybar88

prinzeugen wrote: »

I changed the situation. Gave an example etc. The interview is about YOU.


I did not get the job.

interview was pre Covid,

Can I ask how far in the process you got?

And how long after last phase or interview was it before you found out you didn't get the job?

prinzeugen

Andybar88 wrote: »

Can I ask how far in the process you got?

And how long after last phase or interview was it before you found out you didn't get the job?

Got right through to the final interview/medical stage.



I did stage 2 the first week of January, medical appointment was a week after that, the two interviews (same day) were the last week of January and I got the rejection email the second week of March.


So it was about 6 weeks between the interviews and getting the rejection email.

Andybar88

prinzeugen wrote: »

Got right through to the final interview/medical stage.



I did stage 2 the first week of January, medical appointment was a week after that, the two interviews (same day) were the last week of January and I got the rejection email the second week of March.


So it was about 6 weeks between the interviews and getting the rejection email.

That's the scary part alright....
Did you know that you had 2 interviews in the one day?