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  • #102
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    True - my mistake. He was big in opposition though! :D
    Him being big in opposition means that he was small!


  • #103
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,873 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    kbannon wrote: »
    Him being big in opposition means that he was small!

    No, Phil was always big.


  • #104
    irishpancake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭irishpancake


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    He was a barrister and by all accounts a fairly good one too.

    Well, of course he was.

    He also lectured in Law, which was really the point I attempted to make, in reply to Sam.

    Cheers.


  • #105
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Oops


    The Bank Guarantee introduced in 2008 was “too generous” to bondholders, and played a major part in turning a financial crisis into a sovereign debt crisis, the European Commission has admitted in a dramatic new report.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/bank-guarantee-too-generous-to-bondholders-explosive-european-commission-report-31381833.html


  • #106
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Akrasia wrote: »
    The Greeks are regularly accused playing creative accounting with their national debt statistics but they probably learned half their tricks from Ireland.

    Learnt them from Germany. At the time Greece was one of the few countries that Germany was sucessfully exporting to (still is actually, without the PIIGS as captive, almost colonial, markets to export to the German economy would be an absolute basket case), and the government at the time was massively leaned on by their German counterparts to diguise the true nature of Greek finances and GDP, aided an abetted by massive bribery (the same tactic the German companies used to sell their guns to Greece)

    For all those who think Germany are the good guys here, this is the country that only outlawed bribery by its own citizens in 2008, the country that for the last 20 years has been attempting to treat the rest of Europe like what the UK and France did with their colonies before WW1. And now they are making the rest of Europe pay to keep them afloat, because they currently have no way of doing it off their own backs.


  • #107
    micosoft
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭micosoft


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Learnt them from Germany. At the time Greece was one of the few countries that Germany was sucessfully exporting to (still is actually, without the PIIGS as captive, almost colonial, markets to export to the German economy would be an absolute basket case), and the government at the time was massively leaned on by their German counterparts to diguise the true nature of Greek finances and GDP, aided an abetted by massive bribery (the same tactic the German companies used to sell their guns to Greece)

    For all those who think Germany are the good guys here, this is the country that only outlawed bribery by its own citizens in 2008, the country that for the last 20 years has been attempting to treat the rest of Europe like what the UK and France did with their colonies before WW1. And now they are making the rest of Europe pay to keep them afloat, because they currently have no way of doing it off their own backs.

    When your opening line is a invention you can pretty much write off everything you have to say. Greece is just behind Ireland as Germany's 38th largest trading partner. And not just by a little margin. My many factors. Luxembourg imports more from Germany. As for the rest, 42% of Greek Arms imports were from the US vs 25% from Germany. Can I ask you why you see the need to fabricate something so easy to disprove?


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