Viral Facebook video speaking out about domestic violence (Read mod note in the OP)

Mightydrumming

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Astonished for what reason exactly

I'm appalled to think that you would ever believe someone deserved to be hit, no matter what would be put up.

In essence, your saying If she was hit, went to the Gardaí and be fobbed off, then put a video up stating some of the things you have mentioned.... she would of deserved the beating?

Who would ever give you the right to state someone would 'deserve' a beating? I'm gobsmacked here to be honest.

Means Of Escape

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I've watched the video and, hand on heart, everything about her body language tells me she's not being entirely honest. She can't even maintain eye contact. It just appears to be a vindictive woman determined to destroy the guy who cheated on her. I think she was feeling humiliated and she decided that since he'd hurt and humiliated her, she'd go and do the same to him. I find the video a bit nauseating because she's put her son in it, she's given the names of her children and that removes their anonymity.

She cries, which doesn't seem sincere, amongst other things, about how her children will know that their father hits her. Yeah, they'll know because she's plastered it all over the internet. So, after reviewing the posts and her video I think she's just a vindictive bitch who is probably going to cash in on this whole thing and get herself some third rate media job out of it. Most of you watched the video and somehow found her sincere, which shocks me. All I see is a manipulative woman lashing out and using her kids as a weapon. Even things like saying now the kids dad won't be there for them now? So presumably she's intending to stop him seeing his kids as well. Yeah, I'm done now, I think I understand why so many Irish guys prefer to date foreign women, they must not be as fcukwitted as the Irish ones who believe yer woman. Knock yourselves out ladies, I won't be visiting this thread again.

Jesus you're right!
I noticed the sliced onion (to feign tears) and the stick of mascara (fake black eye) just behind her on the step.
We have all been fooled!!

maggiepip

I don't buy her reasons for posting the video and thats what gets me. I don't buy doing this to help other women etc etc. I don't buy shes trying to help her kids etc etc..and I dont get whats so brave about all this. There are just so many things wrong with this and I feel she's very much enjoying the attention. Being brave would be firstly, to some degree, sheltering your children from this media attention and the raw drama of it. Being brave would be to go to the guards, leave and allow the law to deal with it. A trend of one sided accusations posted online is a very dangerous thing.

P. Breathnach

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

...She can't even maintain eye contact....

With a camera?

I won't be visiting this thread again.

Thank you.

Mightydrumming

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I won't be visiting this thread again.

That's all I read, your simply horrible! I hope you never witness such situations.

Bye bye now

Means Of Escape

brooke 2 wrote: »

I honestly believe that guy is her partner
posting on here. He has been defending the lowlife since the beginning.

Very astute observation reinforced by the posters last post on this thread .

Cold War Kid

Cormac... wrote: »

Hello and thanks for joining us on the thread.

I'm pretty sure my comment is now out of context.

Point being you can extrapolate these types of things out to suit any of the "Sexism" fist waving agendaists here.

So since everyones band wagoning with the whole "Domestic Violence is not ok to EITHER men or women", which I completely agree with, I thought to point out it flows a lot of ways. If I a guy had made those types of comments, the baying mob on here would have a f**king field day.

Why aren't we all crying out for her to say

"that’s the way a PARENT should be,”
“It’s not acceptable to touch a PERSON.” etc etc, ad nauseam

It's been said numerous times. Don't worry, she's getting slated - to the point of being called a liar, and held up as an example of how shyte women are.

Dogowner55

Cold War Kid wrote: »

It's been said numerous times. Don't worry, she's getting slated - to the point of being called a liar, and held up as an example of how shyte women are.

How shyte vindictive vigilantes are, gender is not a part of why people are picking apart what the person did with looking for mob justice rather then actual justice

brooke 2

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Very astute observation reinforced by the posters last post on this thread .

He was the one who posted on the first day: 'Had this been a nobody, there is no way she would have made a video'.

Cue a poster asking him: 'Do you know him?' and another saying: 'He is a nobody.' He was unknown to most people at that stage, yet, in his own eyes, he was a 'somebody'. Suffers from delusions of grandeur, as well as everything else!!

Generic Dreadhead

Cold War Kid wrote: »

It's been said numerous times. Don't worry, she's getting slated -

Yeah.... .that's kind of my point, hence the last 15 or so characters

to the point of being called a liar, and held up as an example of how shyte women are.

Whatever, don't know what that's got to do with anything, maybe you're trying to position me to be on a certain side of the 'fence' here or else you're trying to passively aggressively throw digs at other posters.

Either way, got nothing to do with what I was saying.... soooooo..... yeah....

Mightydrumming

Cold War Kid wrote: »

It's been said numerous times. Don't worry, she's getting slated - to the point of being called a liar, and held up as an example of how shyte women are.

At the end of the day if it was me or you that had such allegations hanging over our heads, I would certainly not be in hiding. I would have as many newspaper interviews. radio interviews etc etc.. to clear my name. Some of these people on here don't seem to have the decency to believe a pleading mother of two who has fallen victim to an abusive relationship and trying to raise awareness for other men and women.

Let them ramble on, calling her this and that... We will see the truth come out soon and they can hang their heads in shame.

At the end of the day I'm a man and I will believe a pleading mother with a black eye than a man in hiding.

RedemptionZ

So was she lying? Haven't read through all the thread but that's the impression I'm getting.

Either way, what she did was quite vindictive and fairly selfish in my opinion, go to the guards, let them deal with it and keep your kids out of the situation. Really feel for the kids in this situation, and the guy tbh because we know damn well he hasn't got a hope of defending himself. Even if it it's true, he should face his consequences in the courts, not on Facebook or through the vigilantes that are no doubt out to get him now.

Mightydrumming

RedemptionZ wrote: »

So was she lying? Haven't read through all the thread but that's the impression I'm getting.

Either way, what she did was quite vindictive and fairly selfish in my opinion, go to the guards, let them deal with it and keep your kids out of the situation. Really feel for the kids in this situation, and the guy tbh because we know damn well he hasn't got a hope of defending himself. Even if it it's true, he should face his consequences in the courts, not on Facebook or through the vigilantes that are no doubt out to get him now.

Please read the thread.

Cold War Kid

Cormac... wrote: »

maybe you're trying to position me to be on a certain side of the 'fence' here or else you're trying to passively aggressively throw digs at other posters.

Neither. Simply saying there has been plenty of recognition of her sexism, some even taking this recognition to the extreme.

Electric Sheep

RedemptionZ wrote: »

So was she lying? Haven't read through all the thread but that's the impression I'm getting.

Either way, what she did was quite vindictive and fairly selfish in my opinion, go to the guards, let them deal with it and keep your kids out of the situation. Really feel for the kids in this situation, and the guy tbh because we know damn well he hasn't got a hope of defending himself. Even if it it's true, he should face his consequences in the courts, not on Facebook or through the vigilantes that are no doubt out to get him now.

Why do you have no doubt that vigilantes are out to get him? I've seen no reports of threats, just that he's losing customers.

frostyjacks

I don't think she was lying, but I don't think she's being entirely truthful either. It would be pretty low of someone to use the issue of domestic violence to get revenge on a former lover. I hope we're not being taken for mugs.

NachoBusiness

brooke 2 wrote: »

Well, she is obviously a very bright girl
because she got her message across very well. She said repeatedly that she loved him and still does. Some of the listeners to Adrian Kennedy were actually concerned that she might return to her partner. She stated that she did not want to keep him away from their children. He was the one who chose to stay away from his family on Father's Day weekend!! With another woman - classy!! He had already psychologically tortured her. There is no doubt about that. But, that was not enough for him - he had to physically assault her also. I sincerely hope she never goes back to him.

Why did you quote me when you said this?

I never said she wasn't bright, or that she didn't love him, or that she wouldn't go back with him, or that he hadn't been that had chosen to stay away from them on father's day.

Mightydrumming wrote: »

I'm appalled to think that you would ever believe someone deserved to be hit, no matter what would be put up.

In essence, your saying If she was hit, went to the Gardaí and be fobbed off, then put a video up stating some of the things you have mentioned.... she would of deserved the beating?

Who would ever give you the right to state someone would 'deserve' a beating? I'm gobsmacked here to be honest.

Where did I say she "deserved to be hit" or "deserved a beating" - quit putting words in my mouth.

Peregrine

Please refrain from responding to this user as they have been temporarily banned from After Hours.

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I've watched the video and, hand on heart, everything about her body language tells me she's not being entirely honest. She can't even maintain eye contact. It just appears to be a vindictive woman determined to destroy the guy who cheated on her. I think she was feeling humiliated and she decided that since he'd hurt and humiliated her, she'd go and do the same to him. I find the video a bit nauseating because she's put her son in it, she's given the names of her children and that removes their anonymity.

She cries, which doesn't seem sincere, amongst other things, about how her children will know that their father hits her. Yeah, they'll know because she's plastered it all over the internet. So, after reviewing the posts and her video I think she's just a vindictive bitch who is probably going to cash in on this whole thing and get herself some third rate media job out of it. Most of you watched the video and somehow found her sincere, which shocks me. All I see is a manipulative woman lashing out and using her kids as a weapon. Even things like saying now the kids dad won't be there for them now? So presumably she's intending to stop him seeing his kids as well. Yeah, I'm done now, I think I understand why so many Irish guys prefer to date foreign women, they must not be as fcukwitted as the Irish ones who believe yer woman. Knock yourselves out ladies, I won't be visiting this thread again.

Mightydrumming

If it had been a: 'Look what the bastard did to me this time. Your son, your friend, your trainer, your media personality in the making, well he's not the man you all think he is, cause he's been shagging around and has got another women pregnant!" video, without all the rest of the filler... then she would just be seen as the nut who most likely asked for it

NachoBusiness

Mightydrumming wrote: »

If it had been a: 'Look what the bastard did to me this time. Your son, your friend, your trainer, your media personality in the making, well he's not the man you all think he is, cause he's been shagging around and has got another women pregnant!" video, without all the rest of the filler... then she would just be seen as the nut who most likely asked for it

So, because I said if she had made a bunny boiler esque video, people would most likely say she asked for it?

That in your world that equates to my saying she would "deserve a beating" if she did?? :rolleyes:

Means Of Escape

Best thing this guy should do is called damage limitation
He himself should go on Facebook and admit what he did as it is clear to anyone with a semblance of intelligence that he punched her and she didn't "fall"
It would be prudent for him to apologise to the offended and his children in a public manner.
Even without this Facebook event he was going to be found guilty of aggravated assault and would have appeared in court and the papers anyway as she had taken proceedings against him.
Seeking therapy for aggressive behaviour would also be a must and he then could be applauded for admitting his wrongdoing and attempting to change his ways.
Lying and trying to defend his actions is only digging a deeper hole for himself
Reconciliation would not be the end goal but standing up and facing the music would make him a better man in the end

This course of action would require the same mettle as was needed to show the world how you were beaten by someone who you thought loved you and fathered your two children .
Spirituality and religion doesn't come into it just what is the right thing to do now .

Electric Sheep

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Best thing this guy should do is called damage limitation
He himself should go on Facebook and admit what he did as it is clear to anyone with a semblance of intelligence that he punched her and she didn't "fall"
It would be prudent for him to apologise to the offended and his children in a public manner.
Even without this Facebook event he was going to be found guilty of aggravated assault and would have appeared in court and the papers anyway as she had taken proceedings against him.
Seeking therapy for aggressive behaviour would also be a must and he then could be applauded for admitting his wrongdoing and attempting to change his ways.
Lying and trying to defend his actions is only digging a deeper hole for himself
Reconciliation would not be the end goal but standing up and facing the music would make him a better man in the end

This course of action would require the same mettle as was needed to show the world how you were beaten by someone who you thought loved you and fathered your two children .
Spirituality and religion doesn't come into it just what is the right thing to do now .

Absolutely spot on. My guess is that he has dropped out of view to get public relations advice, and this is EXACTLY what they will tell him. His attempt to minimize the incident by saying it was a push not a punch was very damaging to him already.

Dogowner55

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Absolutely spot on. My guess is that he has dropped out of view to get public relations advice, and this is EXACTLY what they will tell him. His attempt to minimize the incident by saying it was a push not a punch was very damaging to him already.

He is guilty to the riled up hate mob, nothing he could say publicly will change their minds, they judged him quilty on first sight. He is best now to stay out of the public eye and get justice from the proper authorities while it get properly sorted with them

RedemptionZ

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Please read the thread.

There's 50 odd pages and I've got ****ty Internet, so no.

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Why do you have no doubt that vigilantes are out to get him? I've seen no reports of threats, just that he's losing customers.

People aren't going to send him a letter telling him they'll beat him up, they'll see him on a night out and hop on him. I've seen people make statuses about it on Facebook. Most of it is hard man talk but there's definitely people out there who want to hurt him because of the accusations against him.

I'm not condoning it, but if it's true go the the guards, let them deal with it, it's what they're there for. Starting a Facebook hate campaign isn't the right thing to do. Not the way she's gone about it.

Cold War Kid

brooke 2 wrote: »

I honestly believe that guy is her partner
posting on here. He has been defending the lowlife since the beginning.

No, the poster is a woman. A weirdly anti-woman woman.

Means Of Escape

Dogowner55 wrote: »

He is guilty to the riled up hate mob, nothing he could say publicly will change their minds, they judged him quilty on first sight. He is best now to stay out of the public eye and get justice from the proper authorities while it get properly sorted with them

Again he will be found guilty in court for aggravated assault regardless of Facebook . If he comes clean and apologises for his actions it most certainly will turn out far better for him in the long run

PopePalpatine

Cold War Kid wrote: »

No, the poster is a woman. A weirdly anti-woman woman.

Well, I guess in a world where we have the likes of Cora Sherlock, Michelle Bachmann and a "RedPillWomen" subreddit, it's unsurprising.

Dogowner55

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Again he will be found guilty in court for aggravated assault regardless of Facebook .

You don't know that, guards already said it was minor and that's the only offical thing said, so there might be more to the story then the vindictive side seen so far.

Cold War Kid

PopePalpatine wrote: »

"RedPillWomen" subreddit

Ah Christ. How do they get past the fact that they also have vaginas like.

Dogowner55

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Ah Christ. How do they get past the fact that they also have vaginas like.

Does having a vagina mean your have to follow leftist politics? Also how un sjw of you to think a woman has to have a vagina

NachoBusiness

Cold War Kid wrote: »

No, the poster is a woman. A weirdly anti-woman woman.

How am I "anti-woman" precisely?

Oh and I'm a man, by the way.

Cold War Kid

Dogowner55 wrote: »

Does having a vagina mean your have to follow leftist politics?

Obviously not - random thing to say, seeing as it has nothing to do with what you've quoted from me. Being a woman who is anti women indicates a lack of self awareness/lack of a sense of irony... was my point.

Also how un sjw of you to think a woman has to have a vagina

I'm a SJW? First I've heard of it. People can disagree with you without being SJWs you know.

Cold War Kid

NachoBusiness wrote: »

How am I "anti-woman" precisely?

Oh and I'm a man, by the way.

Oops, my mistake. Thought they were quoting someone else when they quoted you. Apologies.

strelok

NachoBusiness wrote: »

How am I "anti-woman" precisely?

Oh and I'm a man, by the way.

they're talking about pumpkinseeds i think. one of the great things about feminism is being able to dictate the terms of womanhood to other women. it's something feminist men are quite fond of doing as you can see.

Cold War Kid

strelok wrote: »

they're talking about pumpkinseeds i think. one of the great things about feminism is being able to dictate the terms of womanhood to other women. it's something feminist men are quite fond of doing as you can see.

I'm not a feminist and noticing the irony of women hating on women is not unreasonable. Nothing wrong with women being critical of other people who happen to be women, for particular behaviours (e.g. nagging men) but actual hostility towards broad groups of women... from a woman, is laughable (and arrogant - translates as "Women... except for ME").

Guys do the equivalent type of criticism when they point out white-knighting.

Dogowner55

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Obviously not - random thing to say, seeing as it has nothing to do with what you've quoted from me. Being a woman who is anti women indicates a lack of self awareness/lack of a sense of irony... was my point.

I'm a SJW? First I've heard of it. People can disagree with you without being SJWs you know.

You said how can a r/redpillwomen get over the fact they have a vagina, as in a women that is right wing political is self hating. Your thinking of right wing politics being women hating is a sjw train of thought

Cold War Kid

Dogowner55 wrote: »

You said how can a r/redpillwomen get over the fact they have a vagina, as in a women that is right wing political is self hating. Your thinking of right wing politics being women hating is a sjw train of thought

Isn't that Red Pill lunacy about how shyte the world is with women in it?

NachoBusiness

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Oops, my mistake. Thought they were quoting someone else when they quoted you. Apologies.

No problem. When I first seen the comment I thought / hoped they were talking about another user too :P

Dogowner55

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Isn't that Red Pill lunacy about how shyte the world is with women in it?

No your thinking of mgtow. Redpill is more against leftwing looney types

Smidge

Have caught up on the thread and didnt see it mentioned but calls to Womens Aid(iifr)was up by 270%.
So iregardless of our view of why she posted the video, the reason she gave for posting it, which was to raise awareness, has been a success.
I for one, applaud her

Mightydrumming

Smidge wrote: »

Have caught up on the thread and didnt see it mentioned but calls to Womens Aid(iifr)was up by 270%.
So iregardless of our view of why she posted the video, the reason she gave for posting it, which was to raise awareness, has been a success.
I for one, applaud her

Finally someone on the same wave-length as me :rolleyes:

Smidge

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Finally someone on the same wave-length as me :rolleyes:

Im not sure what you mean by that.....

Trudiha

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Obviously not - random thing to say, seeing as it has nothing to do with what you've quoted from me. Being a woman who is anti women indicates a lack of self awareness/lack of a sense of irony... was my point.

It’s not surprising that some women internalise misogyny. A quick scan of this thread will see the suggestion that women aren’t to be believed repeated over and over again. Who in their right mind would want to be part of that, even if it does mean that the alternative is being like a turkey voting for Christmas.

Mightydrumming

Smidge wrote: »

Im not sure what you mean by that.....

Throughout this thread, I have fought a hard battle with people who are not willing to accept the fact that she has brought a lot of much needed awareness to this subject.

Dogowner55

Trudiha wrote: »

It’s not surprising that some women internalise misogyny. A quick scan of this thread will see the suggestion that women aren’t to be believed repeated over and over again. Who in their right mind would want to be part of that, even if it does mean that the alternative is being like a turkey voting for Christmas.

If the stereotype is for women not to believed, it's better then the men are all violent rapists. I don't understand why there is not so much more internalised misandry, who would want to be part of that.

You are thinking less of women if you think that all women have to have the same outlook and if they don't they are just self hating.

Means Of Escape

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Throughout this thread, I have fought a hard battle with people who are not willing to accept the fact that she has brought a lot of much needed awareness to this subject.

Sad fact is that you had to battle in the first place .

I am very sceptical about people who post allegations in the media rather than going to the police.

However, from looking at body language and the video, my instincts lead me to believe her 100%.

DrFloppy

This entire thread

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/10/facepalm.jpg

Folks, this needs to be left with the proper authorities. Frankly I'm amazed media outlets are allowing people to comment on it - but I guess no official investigation is ongoing yet?

None of us know what has happened here behind closed doors, none of us know the full story or even part of it. All we know if this young woman has accused her partner of physically abusing her via social media. There's a reason we have Gardai and courts and a system of justice. It may not be a perfect system but I'll take it any day of the week over trial by social media, the ignorant baying outraged mob and good old fashioned witch hunting.

NachoBusiness

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Throughout this thread, I have fought a hard battle with people who are not willing to accept the fact that she has brought a lot of much needed awareness to this subject.

It's the wrong type of attention.. in my view.

'A woman must never hit a man' was her overriding message, over and over and so I have to question the type of people she has influenced to pick up the phone. Is this gonna be the new craze? Post a video selfie whenever you've been the victim of domestic abuse? If it is, then convictions are more likely to drop than rise. Calls to telephone hotlines rose when Take That broke up, it really means very little, that's just how public consciousness works. If Gardai reports are on the rise in a fortnight, I'll believe she has done something positive, but otherwise I'm standing my opinion that she has in fact done more harm than she has good. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Smidge

Mightydrumming wrote: »

Throughout this thread, I have fought a hard battle with people who are not willing to accept the fact that she has brought a lot of much needed awareness to this subject.

Your rollie-eyes sarcastic little fella threw me
I was double checking

My two cents?

Yes he hit her and it wasn't his first time. I do believe he was gaslighting for quite a while with her. He had another woman pregnant at the same time as her fo fecks sake.

If it were me, would I have taken it to FB?
Probably not, but then again I very rarely use it and almost NEVER post anything personal to even my friends(if I have something important to say, it'll be in a phone call or in person).
But thats just me. I'm older

Very easy for people to tear her down, she isn't in a very high position emotionally to begin with. She is hurt and betrayed and on the verge of being broken. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes that's for damn sure.

The one thing I do know however is that when a person truly loves another person, a lot of the time they excuse and allow behaviour that their heart chooses to ignore but their brain is screaming "WTF are you doing???"

By posting that video imo, she is saying even if you love the other person to death, dont tolerate abuse. Get help. Talk to someone(she does actually say this in the video).

And they did today.....in their droves.