The Open 2015 - St Andrews - July 16th-19th *mod warning #201*

80s Child

When the program changes channel, the recording doesn't, so I've missed the entire play-off and the only way i can find it on youtube or anywhere else is by finding out the winner!! That's the and!

The_Kew_Tour

Comes across as nice guy. Only seems like yesterday he won The Masters.

A Double major winner now.

Fair play to Speith W, W, T4 in 3 majors is not bad going at all.

Dunne can be proud of his 4 days . no shame in what happened today. It's happened to plenty of Pros.

FixdePitchmark

80s Child wrote: »

When the program changes channel, the recording doesn't, so I've missed the entire play-off and the only way i can find it on youtube or anywhere else is by finding out the winner!! That's the and!

If you went for a cycle during end of open - your not a golf fan.

Let us see how you get on when it is on Sky at 50 euro a month.

80s Child

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

If you went for a cycle during end of open - your not a golf fan.

Let us see how you get on when it is on Sky at 50 euro a month.

Ah give me a break! It's a weekly thing and i didn't want to let the boys down. Had the phone off, none of us knew the result and came straight in and turned it on. Sick

FixdePitchmark

80s Child wrote: »

Ah give me a break! It's a weekly thing and i didn't want to let the boys down. Had the phone off, none of us knew the result and came straight in and turned it on. Sick

Ok - I'll give you a break - but I missed the first nine holes of an open for the first time in 20 years.

Golf, your in or your not - no breaks.

Yet some headbanger golf fans think - lads like you will come back from your cycle and even know open was on, on sky.

Armchair Andy

Great to see Zach Johnson take it out. 4 hole playoff seems the fairest way to decide it.

Gutted for the Irish lads could've been so much more exciting. And yet again Scott throws one away.

Senna

I done the exact same, pressed record, got the kid some dinner and put her to bed, then sat down to watch it. The guys were shaking hands on the playoff tee and it cuts off, BBC you *******.

the groutch

the real winner here is golf.
after the joke of a course used for the US Open, and the farce of trying to make guys play earlier this week when their balls wouldn't even stay still on the green, they really needed to deliver today.
and what we got was the best last round of a major in a long time.

vienne86

the groutch wrote: »

the real winner here is golf.
after the joke of a course used for the US Open, and the farce of trying to make guys play earlier this week when their balls wouldn't even stay still on the green, they really needed to deliver today.
and what we got was the best last round of a major in a long time.

Last TWO rounds were fantastic.

Loafing Oaf

the groutch wrote: »

the farce of trying to make guys play earlier this week when their balls wouldn't even stay still on the green,.

Memorable description of very cold weather!;)

Stheno

vienne86 wrote: »

Last TWO rounds were fantastic.

Best last two rounds I remember for a while.

You couldn't have predicted it

callaway92

the groutch wrote: »

the real winner here is golf.
after the joke of a course used for the US Open, and the farce of trying to make guys play earlier this week when their balls wouldn't even stay still on the green, they really needed to deliver today.
and what we got was the best last round of a major in a long time.

Jesus, I dunno. Today lacked any atmosphere whatsoever. Felt a bit flat to me.

80s Child

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Ok - I'll give you a break - but I missed the first nine holes of an open for the first time in 20 years.

Golf, your in or your not - no breaks.

Yet some headbanger golf fans think - lads like you will come back from your cycle and even know open was on, on sky.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say to me here; you're implying that I'm not really into golf because a). I left and recorded it b). I watched it on Sky? Why is it so bad to watch it on Sky?

And 'lads like me', Jesus, be more condescending why don't ya?

Muff Richardson

80s Child wrote: »

I'm not sure what you're trying to say to me here; you're implying that I'm not really into golf because a). I left and recorded it b). I watched it on Sky? Why is it so bad to watch it on Sky?

And 'lads like me', Jesus, be more condescending why don't ya?

I think yer mans had a long day on the hooch solo and is a bit emotional, as we all are, he's talking nonsensical pony on the Harrington thread

80s Child

Muff Richardson wrote: »

I think yer mans had a long day on the hooch solo and is a bit emotional, as we all are, he's talking nonsensical pony on the Harrington thread

Ah....i was thinking. Good looking out!ðŸ‘

Keano

Back on topic please.

Stheno

Looking back, I really enjoyed the last five days.

The excitement of Paul Dunne making strides, my OH is not a golf fan and was away and came home Saturday, asking who this chap he'd heard about on the news was, the thrilling day that was yesterday, and the shifting of the leader board yesterday and today all added up to a real rollercoaster.

Right down to that last putt from Louis today, twas just great

Muff Richardson

Stheno wrote: »

Looking back, I really enjoyed the last five days.

The excitement of Paul Dunne making strides, my OH is not a golf fan and was away and came home Saturday, asking who this chap he'd heard about on the news was, the thrilling day that was yesterday, and the shifting of the leader board yesterday and today all added up to a real rollercoaster.

Right down to that last putt from Louis today, twas just great

The last day was fairly lacklustre and the Irish didn't really do what we wanted them to do, pro or amateur so I don't really know where the gushing comes from. It was ok, just ok.

Stheno

Muff Richardson wrote: »

The last day was fairly lacklustre and the Irish didn't really do what we wanted them to do, pro or amateur so I don't really know where the gushing comes from. It was ok, just ok.

Today didn't compare to yesterday, but to go from Saturday where it looked like Dustin/Willet had it sewn up, to yesterday with Louis and Paul, then to today, made it unpredictable.

That's where the enjoyment came from for me tbh, yup dissapointed for Paul/Paddy, but I was still there at the end watching avidly to see who won

FixdePitchmark

80s Child wrote: »

Ah....i was thinking. Good looking out!ðŸ‘

Yes we always have a few "experts" like your man above that come in for the majors.

Don't worry - it is a time that will pass.

Stheno

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes we always have a few "experts" like your man above that come in for the majors.

Don't worry - it is a time that will pass.

Eh if that's me then if you read my posts I'm certainly not an expert, I'm a fan but not a player, and I tend to only follow the major tournaments or ones where Irish players are doing well

And your reply is one to someone you were pretty scathing to.

If it's not accepted here to be an "occasional" fan rather than a hardcore follower of the most obscure then it should be said, but it certainly won't do the sport any good.

If your post is not in relation to me then apologies.

Keano

It's late and everybody needs to calm down, I really do not want to hand out cards or bans now.

80s Child

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes we always have a few "experts" like your man above that come in for the majors.

Don't worry - it is a time that will pass.

I'm assuming this is aimed at me??

Where in any of my posts did i claim to be an expert?
Did i even give an opinion on the golf itself or rather my own circumstances?
As far as i am aware, this forum is for anyone who has an interest in golf. Who is to say i don't frequent here quite regularly, to read people's opinions or to get updates when I'm unable to view the golf myself?

You seem to be of the opinion that this forum is for 'a chosen few', the 'the real golfers'. It's these opinions that lead to a number of people outside of the game having a negative opinion of not only golf clubs, but on occasions, people who play golf as these opinions transcends golf clubs around the country. People who believe that they are the 'real members' and that it is 'their' golf club.

Get off your high horse and leave your old world views where they belong, in the past.

lostatsea

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes we always have a few "experts" like your man above that come in for the majors.

Don't worry - it is a time that will pass.

You are like the guy in the bar with your own stool and pity anyone who sits on it.

Boards are meant to be democratic where anyone can constructively contribute - not cliques who do not like occasional posters.

razorblunt

lostatsea wrote: »

It was Johnson's fault. His driver slipped as Willett walked by. Willett apologised but Johnson gave him grief. So much for Zach's much avowed christianity.

Ah right, explains why Willett was mumbling away to his caddy walking down the fairway. They seemed ok by the end of the 18th anyway.

Keano

We should really issue warnings and bans but we are going to instead use common sense.

Everybody is welcome in this forum, no matter how often they visit the place. We'd love if you stayed after the majors

FixdePitchmark

Ok lads hand up - disappointment got the better of me

We move on.

Was a class last day - but just everything you wanted to happen didn't in the end.

1 - Dream would be a Padraig win,
2 - Then the silver medal looked gone gone before it got going
3 - Then (I did anyway) wanted to see a Slam in my life.
4 - Then when that was off - I like Oosthuizen as a player and a boke.

Anyway - nothing happened - was still a great event.

The more you see it - I think the 4 hole playoff is the best of the bad options for a major.

It is clear - Dustin will pick one up, when, not sure. Maybe when he gets over line once, it will be easier.

Day at this stage is just a bit perplexing. He also will get over line at some stage.

Rory in the mix too would have made it even better - class event, is course a bit dated for a modern event is a good question ? and the drive down other fairway on 17 - is interesting. Maybe should be looked at.

Would love to play course, to get a feel for it.


But the pro game looks in good shape all of a sudden - The Woods gap is being filled, he was hardly a loss at all.

Dolph Starbeam

I can see why people think the course might not be up to Major standards anymore but I love it. It's something different. It was soft this week and the wind didn't really blow so if it had of been dry and a bit more wind it would have been a really tough test.

ForeRight

When you think about it what is "major standard" course?

Us open courses with huge rough and 550yd par 4's???

At the end of the day it's going to be the same for all of them playing and it's down to who goes around in the least amount of strokes and it's no coincidence that the usual lads like Speith, Day, Scott and Oost were all there at the end. The cream rises to the top over 72 holes no matter if it's the top toughest courses in the world or grange castle(no offence there)

Loire

I was initially disappointed when Louis missed the putt and Zach won, simply as I've never warmed to Zach. That changed when I saw him hug his wife and when he welled up in front of the camera where it was clear how much this means to him. Different people have different "game" faces and his, unfortunately for him, is quite cold and distant. He's never going to an Arnold Palmer, but he is a fully deserving winner and good on him. Really liked the way his wife said she just wanted to get back to their kids straight away and this was echoed by Zach "I’m humbled by this, but my legacy should be my kids". Good on them and hope his wife likes her new kitchen! By the way, the ole lad had him at 33/1 too so milky bars on him!

lostatsea

razorblunt wrote: »

Ah right, explains why Willett was mumbling away to his caddy walking down the fairway. They seemed ok by the end of the 18th anyway.

At the time, I think Zach was worried his driver was damaged and that is why he reacted the way he did. Danny was really taken aback by his reaction. They had a good hug on 18 so all was forgiven.

MYOPIA

Interesting that Zach Johnson finished 1 shot behind Jordan Spieth in the John Deere last Sunday week.
They then came over on the same charter from Chicago , arriving Old Course Monday 13th. p.m.
1 shot separated them again at the end of The Open.

Speak Now

Senna wrote: »

I done the exact same, pressed record, got the kid some dinner and put her to bed, then sat down to watch it. The guys were shaking hands on the playoff tee and it cuts off, BBC you *******.

Same happens on sky when they go to a play off, had John Deere recorded last week and programme finished just as play off was starting. They never extended it on the planner.

Speak Now

callaway92 wrote: »

Jesus, I dunno. Today lacked any atmosphere whatsoever. Felt a bit flat to me.

Jesus I thought it was enthralling, how many majors do 5 different players still have a chance to win on their 72th hole?

lostatsea

The BBC have apologised for commentator Peter Alliss’ sexist comment about the wife of Open winner Zach Johnson, describing it as “inappropriate”. The American was lining up a putt to secure victory when the camera showed Johnson’s wife Kim Barclay, prompting Alliss to speculate how they may spend the prizemoney. “She is probably thinking - ‘if this goes in I get a new kitchen’,” he said.

Alliss had also provoked controversy on Saturday night when cameras showed third-round leader Paul Dunne being hugged by his mother as he came off the course.
“Ah, that must be mum. Perhaps he likes older women. I don’t know but I hope I got the right one,” he said.
Alliss, who has worked for the BBC since 1961, was criticised in April when he claimed that attempts to give women equal rights in golf have “caused mayhem”.

BigChap1759

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Jesus I thought it was enthralling, how many majors do 5 different players still have a chance to win on their 72th hole?

Couldn't agree more - was a fantastic finish. I think some posters like above just lost interest when the Irish hopes evaporated?

MillField

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Jesus I thought it was enthralling, how many majors do 5 different players still have a chance to win on their 72th hole?

Definitely. From a neutrals perspective it was great entertainment.

valoren

A sexist comment would be;

“She is probably thinking - ‘if this goes in I get a new kitchen’, because you see that's where she belongs, in the kitchen"

What he said was a wise-crack, a joke, an attempt at humour and it should taken as such.

slave1

Okay guys, watching and not on boards yesterday or up to now, one comment and one query...

Comment, I would have loved Speith and Day in the playoff, I think it would have been an extraordinary climax.

Query, Zach tapping down the green twice in his line of put on either 17/18, I thought you could not do that without checking with partner that it is an old pitch mark or at least self identifying and saying same?

BigChap1759

slave1 wrote: »

Okay guys, watching and not on boards yesterday or up to now, one comment and one query...

Comment, I would have loved Speith and Day in the playoff, I think it would have been an extraordinary climax.

Query, Zach tapping down the green twice in his line of put on either 17/18, I thought you could not do that without checking with partner that it is an old pitch mark?

You do not have to ask permission but it is generally good etiquette to do so.

He repaired something in the line of his putt which was fine(he checked with rules official if they were happy it was a pitch mark) but he then tapped down in another spot which doesn't look great, but if it was a pitch mark then it's fine.

slave1

BigChap1759 wrote: »

You do not have to ask permission but it is generally good etiquette to do so.

He repaired something in the line of his putt which was fine(he checked with rules official if they were happy it was a pitch mark) but he then tapped down in another spot which doesn't look great, but if it was a pitch mark then it's fine.

Yeah, it was the second one I was thinking of, he got the okay for the first one but then wandered over and tapped down something else without querying it, did the same on a short putt on 15/16 and when he done it the second time it just caught my eye...

vienne86

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

1 - Dream would be a Padraig win,
2 - Then the silver medal looked gone gone before it got going
3 - Then (I did anyway) wanted to see a Slam in my life.
4 - Then when that was off - I like Oosthuizen as a player and a boke.

Anyway - nothing happened - was still a great event.

This summarises the ordering of my hopes perfectly. Disappointed, but it was great - really missing the golf today!!!

Dolph Starbeam

I noticed again yesterday when Zach Johnson slipped with his approach shot to 17 that he still wears steel spikes, why are pros still aloud to wear them when they damage the greens? These are the same pros that complain about greens being spike marked.

I know he's not the only one, I know Tiger does on occasion, I presume some others still do also.

slave1

Always loved Louis, what a swing but ultimately Zach's putting was the difference, you can't afford four 3 putts like Louis had the last day...

slave1

YayaBanana wrote: »

I noticed again yesterday when Zach Johnson slipped with his approach shot to 17 that he still wears steel spikes, why are pros still aloud to wear them when they damage the greens? These are the same pros that complain about greens being spike marked.

I know he's not the only one, I know Tiger does on occasion, I presume some others still do also.

Because the PGA has not yet banned them, but some regional qualifiers ban them and I remember someone or another being DQ in us open qualifiers a few years back

Speak Now

slave1 wrote: »

Because the PGA has not yet banned them, but some regional qualifiers ban them and I remember someone or another being DQ in us open qualifiers a few years back

Yes a 2 timer winner as well...Lee Janzen.

Dolph Starbeam

slave1 wrote: »

Always loved Louis, what a swing but ultimately Zach's putting was the difference, you can't afford four 3 putts like Louis had the last day...

The putts on 18, 1 and 2 for Zach was definitely the difference. Feel sorry for Louis too but if he can stay fit he could really challenge consistently in majors.

skippymac6

valoren wrote: »

A sexist comment would be;

“She is probably thinking - ‘if this goes in I get a new kitchen’, because you see that's where she belongs, in the kitchen"

What he said was a wise-crack, a joke, an attempt at humour and it should taken as such.

Exactly. So many people are so sensitive about everything these days that people need to just relax a bit.

I'm sure if you said the same comment to Zach or Paul that they'd laugh it off straight away.

It really irritates me when commentators or analysts are pulled up on the smallest of things. Now you can't be going around slagging poor old Marty Morrissey like Joe Brolly but most of the stuff said are harmless and what you don't want is commentators and analysts being completely bland and boring just to please the masses of one off viewers in big events like this.

ionadnapokot

MYOPIA wrote: »

Interesting that Zach Johnson finished 1 shot behind Jordan Spieth in the John Deere last Sunday week.
They then came over on the same charter from Chicago , arriving Old Course Monday 13th. p.m.
1 shot separated them again at the end of The Open.

I hate it when someone i completely ruled out wins!
His previous Open record, particularly at St. Andrews, had me disregarding him.
04' - MC, '05: - MC (St.Andrews), '06: MC, '07: 20, '08: 51, '09: 47, '10: 76 (St.Andrews), '11: 16, '12: 9, '13: 6, '14: 47.
But i should have paid closer attention! He has had 4 previous top 20 finishes. 07' (Carnoustie), 11' (St.Georges), 12' (Lytham & St.Annes) & '13 (Muirfield). Muirfield, St Georges and Carnoustie are particularly challenging links courses.
Damn it!

Running Balance

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but did speith and Louis both drop shots during the half an hours play Saturday morning in the 'cyclone'?