The Open 2015 - St Andrews - July 16th-19th *mod warning #201*

vienne86

Pity Tom Watson has to be dragged out of bed early to finish his round in the morning.

LuckyGent88

Awful drop shot from Donald on 18 considering how good his short game usually is.

FixdePitchmark

Are they waiting for Tom ?

Adamocovic

Very disappointing by lowry, correct me if I'm wrong but we're those two rounds both his worse in his St. Andrews history? Only just missed the cut but no doubt he'll be bitterly disappointed. If only the 17th went better yesterday!

For me I'd love Donald, Casey, Dunne, Garcia or Fowler to win it. Tomorrow could change leaderboard a lot but from the ones I want seems Donald has best chance, Dunne has been mighty though

vienne86

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Awful drop shot from Donald on 18 considering how good his short game usually is.

Yes it's a shame.

Seems that the players can choose to stay playing if they wish or come off if they wish. Get the headlights beamed in for Tom Watson!

Stheno

Are there rules that prohibit amateurs from winning the likes of the Open outright?

Mysterypunter

Stheno wrote: »

Are there rules that prohibit amateurs from winning the likes of the Open outright?

No. But if they won they dont recieve prizemoney

FixdePitchmark

Stheno wrote: »

Are there rules that prohibit amateurs from winning the likes of the Open outright?

No - they just can't take the money.

FixdePitchmark

This seems a mad thing to say - but the course looks very easy :eek::D

FixdePitchmark

Not sure this is fair on the field and the players - is too dark now.

Loafing Oaf

Haha Mark James quoting his beloved Star Trek.:D

Mint Sauce

vienne86 wrote: »

Pity Tom Watson has to be dragged out of bed early to finish his round in the morning.

What ever happens now, he will get to play the 18th.

LuckyGent88

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Not sure this is fair on the field and the players - is too dark now.

But they have the option to stop so it's completely up to them

Loafing Oaf

Mint Sauce wrote: »

What ever happens now, he will get to play the 18th.

I don't understand this, would he not have just come back and played it tomorrow morning if the group didn't male it this far?

thewobbler

Fair play to Ernie And Brendt.

Some things in life actually are better to be a part of than struggling to make a cut.

FixdePitchmark

There is something poetic about it in the dark.

Muff Richardson

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

Aidric

Tasty wedge from Snedeker.

vienne86

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Are they waiting for Tom ?

Yes, they waited for him, and proper order too.

FixdePitchmark

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

:eek::D

HighLine

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

Well turn off - everyone else is done and the rest of us will enjoy the reception Mr Watson deserves.

vienne86

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

Very sorry, but I don't agree. The guy is a legend.

Keano

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

Comments like that are not welcome around here. One more and you'll be having a break

Mysterypunter

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

That man is a genius. And a gentleman

thewobbler

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

Sport is nostalgia.

It's why when we talk about current performances we always evaluate it against the greatest player ever, greatest performance ever, greatest duel ever, etc.

Without that yardstick things become irrelevant.

Sport is nostalgia.

Enjoy it.

vienne86

Fair play to Els and Snedeker for continuing.

Howjoe1

Love Tom Watson.

Mint Sauce

Not a huge golf fan, but I'm glad they let Tom finish, and get a great reception. Would have been unfair and unjust to make him finish off early in the morning, and to probably a small and muted crowd.

slave1

Muff Richardson wrote: »

sick of looking at the adulation for this old git...it's sport not nostalgia

In fairness you're entitled to your opinion but why would you think him an old git?
Yes he is old but this is a golf forum and he is undoubtedly one of the greats, came over from the US not liking links and won The Open 5 times in less than 10 years, not to mention his 2009 almost and all the other Majors and tournaments he has won around the world and all the time never being anything other than a gentleman.
If you think him a git - first I've ever heard of someone thinking that of Watson - then at least bear with the rest of us as we celebrate what he has achieved in The Open and the joy of wishing him all the best...

slave1

Mysterypunter wrote: »

No. But if they won they dont recieve prizemoney

Just to add, they get the ranking points though!

Muff Richardson

Keano wrote: »

Comments like that are not welcome around here. One more and you'll be having a break

Little bit excessive, no? There's not a single other sport where professional elite athletes are held up by old timers that are at this stage treble their age that can never even come close to competing. It's ridiculous in an age of amazing elite athleticism and talent that players should have put up with that nonsense, gentleman or not it doesn't matter.

And all the golfers were not in, Els made the cut by one stroke and clearly dropped a shot due to conditions and distractions...all in the name of nostalgia and having Watson have his moment...again.

Threatening a ban for trolling is fair enough but I'm making a fair point.

ForeRight

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Little bit excessive, no? There's not a single other sport where professional elite athletes are held up by old timers that are at this stage treble their age that can never even come close to competing. It's ridiculous in an age of amazing elite athleticism and talent that players should have put up with that nonsense, gentleman or not it doesn't matter.

And all the golfers were not in, Els made the cut by one stroke and clearly dropped a shot due to conditions and distractions...all in the name of nostalgia and having Watson have his moment...again.

Threatening a ban for trolling is fair enough but I'm making a fair point.

Did you not see the big hullabaloo with Gerrard leaving liverpool?

Mushy

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Little bit excessive, no? There's not a single other sport where professional elite athletes are held up by old timers that are at this stage treble their age that can never even come close to competing. It's ridiculous in an age of amazing elite athleticism and talent that players should have put up with that nonsense, gentleman or not it doesn't matter.

And all the golfers were not in, Els made the cut by one stroke and clearly dropped a shot due to conditions and distractions...all in the name of nostalgia and having Watson have his moment...again.

Threatening a ban for trolling is fair enough but I'm making a fair point.

And that is why many enjoy the sport. It is a sign of respect is all, nothing to get wound up about.

As for the day of golf, spent most of it travelling so didn't see much, wedding tomorrow will limit the viewing time too but constant updates. Hope Dunne continues the good form.

Keano

if you've said you were sick of the Watson love-in that's fine but old git isn't language we want around here.

If you want to discuss it more drop me a PM

Muff Richardson

ForeRight wrote: »

Did you not see the big hullabaloo with Gerrard leaving liverpool?

I did, what in sweet Jesus could that have to do with the point I was trying to make? If what you are tying to say is that it's about respect for the player and a nice send off and thanks blah blah then you've clearly missed it.

accap1f8

Are BBC showing them teeing off at 7 in the morning?

vienne86

accap1f8 wrote: »

Are BBC showing them teeing off at 7 in the morning?

Yep, bless 'em! It's come up on my Sky planner. BBC2 from 7.

Cosmo Kramer

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Little bit excessive, no? There's not a single other sport where professional elite athletes are held up by old timers that are at this stage treble their age that can never even come close to competing.

Actually he made the cut at the open in four of the last seven years and as recently as last year so, while it didn't happen for him this week, he has been competitive despite his age.

Mint Sauce

accap1f8 wrote: »

Are BBC showing them teeing off at 7 in the morning?

Yes. As announced on their BBC4 coverage :eek: (yes I was surprised to see it there as well), just before 10 this evening.

cairny

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Little bit excessive, no? There's not a single other sport where professional elite athletes are held up by old timers that are at this stage treble their age that can never even come close to competing. It's ridiculous in an age of amazing elite athleticism and talent that players should have put up with that nonsense, gentleman or not it doesn't matter.

And all the golfers were not in, Els made the cut by one stroke and clearly dropped a shot due to conditions and distractions...all in the name of nostalgia and having Watson have his moment...again.

Threatening a ban for trolling is fair enough but I'm making a fair point.

You have valid points but the wrong target imho; Tom Watson continues to be an active professional golfer, nearly won the thing 6 years ago and made the cut last year, the age limit rule was changed because he was still competitive...now Nick Faldo...

Kenny B

Only 10 eagles in the whole tournament so far and 4 have been on par 4's,

thewobbler

Kenny B wrote: »

Only 10 eagles in the whole tournament so far and 4 have been on par 4's,

This is a stat that needs a context. St Andrew's only has two par 5s. Comparing stats here with a standard tour course is like comparing apples with y-fronts.

Muff Richardson

cairny wrote: »

You have valid points but the wrong target imho; Tom Watson continues to be an active professional golfer, nearly won the thing 6 years ago and made the cut last year, the age limit rule was changed because he was still competitive...now Nick Faldo...

Isnt that the point "nearly won"? It isn't really an argument to have them compete. it's a four day event for a reason and there's s reason why the senior players with ability capitulate on the final day or long before that, it's too just too much. The oldest ever major winner was 48 years old back in the 60's. It's a lot more physical now and admittedly I could never say but I doubt that will ever get any less than 48. I just don't see the point, its nothing more than old boy golfing tradition which is embedded in golf.

Kenny B

thewobbler wrote: »

This is a stat that needs a context. St Andrew's only has two par 5s. Comparing stats here with a standard tour course is like comparing apples with y-fronts.

It needs no context as I made no comparison, just pointing it out that of the 2 pars 5's on course one has not been eagled and the other which is a fairly standard P5 has had only 6 eagles in 2 days.

Rikand

vienne86 wrote: »

Yep, bless 'em! It's come up on my Sky planner. BBC2 from 7.

Wouldn't see that on sky. Be 2 hours of tight lines. The wrestling and then the golf

delaad

Keano wrote: »

Comments like that are not welcome around here. One more and you'll be having a break

With all due respects to you, Keano, that sounds like something you might hear in Alabama back in the '50's.

Mysterypunter

Muff Richardson wrote: »

Isnt that the point "nearly won"? It isn't really an argument to have them compete. it's a four day event for a reason and there's s reason why the senior players with ability capitulate on the final day or long before that, it's too just too much. The oldest ever major winner was 48 years old back in the 60's. It's a lot more physical now and admittedly I could never say but I doubt that will ever get any less than 48. I just don't see the point, its nothing more than old boy golfing tradition which is embedded in golf.

There are lots of stiffs in every tournament. You have a valid point but why not take it out on someone else. Watson won this 5 times. There is a whole thread about Shane Lowry and I dont rate him at all. I usually ignore it, but posted in it last week when he had a bad 3rd round in Scotland. Ian Poulter is another one. Loads of publicity and does nothing.

Tugboats

Wind:cool:

me89

Tugboats wrote: »

Wind:cool:

It's only a light breeze

Tugboats