Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

Whereisgerry?

Sorry.. with attachment.

pinkypinky

marasmus - basically a form of starvation where the baby fails to thrive.

Sklarker

Marasmus after measles 4 months certified?

Whereisgerry?

pinkypinky wrote: »

marasmus - basically a form of starvation where the baby fails to thrive.

Thanks Pinky! That's so sad! Poor little thing! They had 4 children and 2 died within 3 months of each other. Tough old life back then.

Whereisgerry?

Sklarker wrote: »

Marasmus after measles 4 months certified?

Yes I think you are right Sklarker. It certainly looks like measles. Thanks for your help.

Whereisgerry?

Whereisgerry? wrote: »

Thanks Pinky! That's so sad! Poor little thing! They had 4 children and 2 died within 3 months of each other. Tough old life back then.

Any ideas where this child might be buried? I checked Glasnevin but there no sign of her or her brother who died in Nov 1881 - they lived on Capel St at the time of her death in Feb 1882.

pinkypinky

Alright, this one is a serious challenge!

It's the last entry on this page. There is an incomplete transcription on irishgenealogy.ie but it's the bride's parents' address, dispensations, and the notes column on the far right that I'm interested in.

Part II:
Same church and similarly difficult. This is a sibling of the bride above.

I'm again interested in the bride's parents' address (I can make out Carlow but not the words above) and the dispensation note.

mickmackey1

I haven't seen many more difficult than that, can't help you there.

Jellybaby1

Its awful. Can't make out anything.

shanew

me neither - I think the best bet would be to contact North Wall Parish/St. Laurence O'Toole to see if they can assist.

pinkypinky

Well I'm glad it's not just me! I'll ring them in the morning.

spurious

It looks like the first one was moved as it was scanned. Which entry on the second page? There might be more of a chance there.

pinkypinky

Apologies: 5th from bottom on the second link.

I do have the civil record for both marriages, but it does look like there's more to read on the church copies.

turninggreen

Hi All,

Anybody able to tell me what the word is written on far right of the baptism record - 3 Record Down Osborne

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01428/1586062.pdf

Thanks in advance

shanew

turninggreen wrote: »

Hi All,

Anybody able to tell me what the word is written on far right of the baptism record - 3 Record Down Osborne

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01428/1586062.pdf

Thanks in advance

it's a civil birth record rather than a baptism - the wording at the end looks like a note indicating that the correction to the residence of the informant in column 8 in in 'copy only'

Vetch

pinkypinky wrote: »

Apologies: 5th from bottom on the second link.

I do have the civil record for both marriages, but it does look like there's more to read on the church copies.

Rathduff. The dispensation note looks similar to others, first part seems like a dispensation from banns.

pinkypinky

Thanks - I meant to post yesterday that the church was helpful to a degree.
They gave me the details of the note on the first marriage (the groom is a native of the Gold Coast, South Africa) and the bride's parents' address was Chapelizod.

On the second marriage, they confirmed it said Rathduff, Bagnelstown, Co. Carlow.

But they refused to give me the dispensation details because they "couldn't read it and couldn't give me a photo of a private record". I replied that the image was already on the NLI site so in the public domain but got no response.

spurious

I'd say if you could find an older priest, he'd recognise what the dispensation was. There were only so many possibilities really.

pedroeibar1

On a point of clarity I’m not aware of any Gold Coast in South Africa. The Gold Coast was a former British colony and is in West Africa, most of it is present-day Ghana.
@Spurious, I agree; I don’t know about that parish, but more than two thirds of RC priests are aged more than 55 and about half of that cohort is older than 65. Credo Latina didicit ab omni sacerdotes aetate illius.

pinkypinky

I agree, and I suspect it doesn't say "south" but just Africa. The civil cert mentions the Gold Coast in Africa too.

Hermy

Would someone mind telling me what church the first wedding was held in?
I can't make out the handwriting at all.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10811/5942781.pdf

montgo

Maybe St. Saviours?

Hermy

That does look like it all right. Thanks montgo.

srmf5

For entry 150, can anyone make out the address and what is written under formerly for the mother's name? It doesn't look like spinster. Thanks.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01765/1695002.pdf

EDIT: Looking at the address of who registered it, it looks like 3 Campbell Street South but I have no idea where that is.

tabbey

srmf5 wrote: »

For entry 150, can anyone make out the address and what is written under formerly for the mother's name? It doesn't look like spinster. Thanks.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01765/1695002.pdf

EDIT: Looking at the address of who registered it, it looks like 3 Campbell Street South but I have no idea where that is.

Formerly Gunne?

There was a Campbell Street off Old Lodge Road, but probably not South.

spurious

It says 'a spinner'.
It seems to be the habit of that Registrar where if the father's name is not given, he gives the profession of the mother. If you look forward a couple of pages to Entries 212 and 215 on this page you will see the same thing. In those cases, a spinner and a winder.

srmf5

spurious wrote: »

It says 'a spinner'.
It seems to be the habit of that Registrar where if the father's name is not given, he gives the profession of the mother. If you look forward a couple of pages to Entries 212 and 215 on this page you will see the same thing. In those cases, a spinner and a winder.

Thank you. That seems like it alright. I thought that it might be an occupation but I couldn't recognise it.

tabbey

srmf5 wrote: »

For entry 150,

EDIT: Looking at the address of who registered it, it looks like 3 Campbell Street South but I have no idea where that is.

I have found Campbell Street South in the Geographia street map of Belfast, undated but about late 1960s / early 70s. It was too small to show on the actual map, but was in the street list with location.
This area was largely demolished for redevelopment in the 1970s and 80s.

It was on the north side of Divis Street, (now A501) immediately west of the bridge over the Westlink (A12). Townsend Streetand Fingal's Court now covers the area.

The area is dominated by the Divis Flats, infamous during the troubles.

threetrees

Hi, first time posting here and a newbie to research. I'm hooked now! Looking for the cause of death on line 20. Looks like "something something certified".

Thanks


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05480/4534453.pdf

P. Breathnach

threetrees wrote: »

Hi, first time posting here and a newbie to research. I'm hooked now! Looking for the cause of death on line 20. Looks like "something something certified".

Looks to me like "Infantile atrophy". [Seems awful!]