New businesses

yop

PARlance wrote: »

How they got planning for Castlegrove... modeled on a shanty town in Brazil. Imagine the state of it in another 10 or 20 years.

Where is that?

yop

yop wrote: »

Where is that?

Here it is

15 Castlegrove
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ws1DtrGeb4FFAZrA7

elderberry

Deleted User wrote: »

Here it is

15 Castlegrove
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ws1DtrGeb4FFAZrA7

aka "Beverly Hills"

Castlebar12

Westernyelp wrote: »

There is planned in for 4 more large units up by Woodies and Harvey Normans.

John Hanley's on station road getting a complete revamp and extension too

I wonder who would fill the 4?

naughto

Castlebar12 wrote: »

I wonder who would fill the 4?

It might be case of build it and they will come kind of thing

Castlebar12

naughto wrote: »

It might be case of build it and they will come kind of thing

Is this just talk you heard? i don’t see a planning application

PARlance

Castlebar12 wrote: »

Is this just talk you heard? i don’t see a planning application

Nearly sure it was in the papers, or on their Facebook page, last week.

Westernyelp

naughto wrote:

It might be case of build it and they will come kind of thing

Ya. Probably. I heard a rumour of JYSK.

Westernyelp

Castlebar12 wrote:

Is this just talk you heard? i don’t see a planning application

Its on the council website. Site notice up there too

Castlebar12

anyone have a link?

Westernyelp

Search counci planning for Kelem properties. File no. 19703

It's interesting that Tesco Ireland have submitted an observation. Regarding the development. They obviously don't want focus drawn away from their patch

irishgeo

Westernyelp wrote: »

Search counci planning for Kelem properties. File no. 19703

It's interesting that Tesco Ireland have submitted an observation. Regarding the development. They obviously don't want focus drawn away from their patch

interesting.

one wonders what they were afraid of with a aldi,lidi and dunnes already in the town, they werent too bothered when they killed the town centre.

yop

The irony of that!!
What are Creans putting in there? 4 retail units but is there a significant tenant to affect Tesco?

irishgeo

yop wrote: »

The irony of that!!
What are Creans putting in there? 4 retail units but is there a significant tenant to affect Tesco?

iceland?

CtrlAltDelete

naughto wrote: »

It might be case of build it and they will come kind of thing

Ya, a real boom time development.. ghost units all over the country!

CtrlAltDelete

irishgeo wrote: »

interesting.

one wonders what they were afraid of with a aldi,lidi and dunnes already in the town, they werent too bothered when they killed the town centre.

They didn't.

Did Tesco in Westport kill the Town centre ?

irishgeo

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

They didn't.

Did Tesco in Westport kill the Town centre ?

Not much open on the main street in Westport these days.

CtrlAltDelete

irishgeo wrote: »

Not much open on the main street in Westport these days.

So main St Westport is dead also ?

Thou

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

Parking in the old Town centre is what's nailing it. Paid parking everywhere and retailers wondering why their businesses are failing. Oh well....

No doubt about it, this seems to be a major issue for retailers in the town. And as has been mentioned in this thread before, there being a lack of adequate retail space on Main St. has also held it back.
Huge scope for developments either side of street, but for one reason or another nothing has gone ahead and there appears to be no willingness or plans by council to facilitate regeneration or enhance the area.
Just keep facilitating rise in rates, rents, and insurance premiums, crazy stuff.

The barrack plans looked good but only a rough idea of what could be done in the grounds and area surrounding it, but the likely hood of that and Dalys regeneration going ahead are probably little to none.

I hate saying it but going up the Main St. Still makes for grim viewing.

spakman

Council need to decide what they want from main street. it's not going to be the main location for grocery or home goods - those days are gone.
Maybe they should encourage its development as a cafe, restaurant, pub area. if it was pedestrianised, that could really take off.
Anyrhing is better than e-cigarette and game swap shops!

irishgeo

spakman wrote: »

Council need to decide what they want from main street. it's not going to be the main location for grocery or home goods - those days are gone.
Maybe they should encourage its development as a cafe, restaurant, pub area. if it was pedestrianised, that could really take off.
Anyrhing is better than e-cigarette and game swap shops!

The council have killed most plans with huge parking levys and rates on developments which had to be appealed.

2 things that got planning but haven't started stautons development and the gavins bakery one. the council delayed both with huge parking levies.

PARlance

spakman wrote: »

Council need to decide what they want from main street. it's not going to be the main location for grocery or home goods - those days are gone.
Maybe they should encourage its development as a cafe, restaurant, pub area. if it was pedestrianised, that could really take off.
Anyrhing is better than e-cigarette and game swap shops!

Half the town are obsessed with criticising the Council for widening the footpaths (less parking spaces) on Main Street and blaming that for its decline (as opposed to the numerous other global reasons main streets are failing).

I could only imagine the uproar if it was to be pedestrianised. It should be and it developments like you said should be encouraged.

CtrlAltDelete

I definitely think the street furniture doesn't help in it's current format on main St.

Also, if the parking tickets were universal around the town it would help also rather than having to get a new ticket each time you move car park.

An updated main St, with an incentivised "social quarter" would perhaps rejuvenate the area, scrap parking entirely on one side and on the other arrange the spaces at 45° angles to the buildings.

muddle84

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

I definitely think the street furniture doesn't help in it's current format on main St.

Also, if the parking tickets were universal around the town it would help also rather than having to get a new ticket each time you move car park.

An updated main St, with an incentivised "social quarter" would perhaps rejuvenate the area, scrap parking entirely on one side and on the other arrange the spaces at 45° angles to the buildings.

They already got rid of parking on one side, thats how they widened the footpaths. The street isn't wide enough for 45 degree parking.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Main+St,+Gorteendrunagh,+Castlebar,+Co.+Mayo,+Ireland/@53.85756,-9.2974785,3a,75y,227.96h,82.75t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sY-uUZrHiJn3t8a6hUJoQjw!2e0!3e11!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fmaps%2Fphotothumb%2Ffd%2Fv1%3Fbpb%3DChEKD3NlYXJjaC5nd3MtcHJvZBIgChIJRdssGHVdWUgRBJ58TAWJld4qCg0AAAAAFQAAAAAaBAhWEFY!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48595d75182cdb45:0xde9589054c7c9e04!8m2!3d53.8569993!4d-9.2981875

In my opinion, the reason the main street is left behind is that down around argos is much more developed over the last few decades. there is more shops down there. I can't see how parking is the problem, there is more parking close to main street than Argos with what i always call Hanleys carpark on one side and castle street car park the other side.

irishgeo

muddle84 wrote: »

They already got rid of parking on one side, thats how they widened the footpaths. The street isn't wide enough for 45 degree parking.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Main+St,+Gorteendrunagh,+Castlebar,+Co.+Mayo,+Ireland/@53.85756,-9.2974785,3a,75y,227.96h,82.75t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sY-uUZrHiJn3t8a6hUJoQjw!2e0!3e11!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fmaps%2Fphotothumb%2Ffd%2Fv1%3Fbpb%3DChEKD3NlYXJjaC5nd3MtcHJvZBIgChIJRdssGHVdWUgRBJ58TAWJld4qCg0AAAAAFQAAAAAaBAhWEFY!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48595d75182cdb45:0xde9589054c7c9e04!8m2!3d53.8569993!4d-9.2981875

In my opinion, the reason the main street is left behind is that down around argos is much more developed over the last few decades. there is more shops down there. I can't see how parking is the problem, there is more parking close to main street than Argos with what i always call Hanleys carpark on one side and castle street car park the other side.

Parking isn't the problem. All the closed shops are. The ecigs shops and charity shops aren't helping. How many ecigs and euro shops does a town need.
The council trying to charge parking levies on developments hindered development. The place has more than enough parking.

CtrlAltDelete

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

I definitely think the street furniture doesn't help in it's current format on main St.

Also, if the parking tickets were universal around the town it would help also rather than having to get a new ticket each time you move car park.

An updated main St, with an incentivised "social quarter" would perhaps rejuvenate the area, scrap parking entirely on one side and on the other arrange the spaces at 45° angles to the buildings.

Pedestrianize it and put a roof on it. open air restaurants, bars, music etc

RedDevil55

irishgeo wrote: »

Parking isn't the problem. All the closed shops are. The ecigs shops and charity shops aren't helping. How many ecigs and euro shops does a town need.
The council trying to charge parking levies on developments hindered development. The place has more than enough parking.

Yeah, there are ample spaces in castle street car park and the church car park. Only a 30 second walk from main street.

Boredstiff666

CtrlAltDelete wrote: »

They didn't.

Did Tesco in Westport kill the Town centre ?

Yes together with high rents, Amazon, online buying and there wasnt much to buy in the shops anyway. Before Tesco came half the shops used to close for lunch.

Any way every dog has its day and Westport is starting to die as people tire of being sold the 'olde Ireland' theme which isnt even there anymore. It's all been replaced with glass and plastic.

If it wasnt for the pubs (Malloys) then Westport has nowt else to offer any tourist except high prices.

interlocked

Ah, another troll with literacy issues. Such a surprise.

PARlance

irishgeo wrote: »

It might be bought but just letting an elderly resident stay for a while and then knock it.

Resident of that house isn't that elderly really.