Transfer Time/2016 Squads

godtabh

First rumour of worth I've seen. I'm sure there are many more

Michal Kwiatkowski ‘likely’ to join Sky, says agent

Not sure if its a good move for Kwiatkowski. I'd also fear for an Irish rider!

gordongekko

Isn't Richie leaving sky so that would free up that spot.

retalivity

Fuglsang re-signing for Astana, apparently ettix were looking at him to fill kwia's spot

godtabh

gordongekko wrote: »

Isn't Richie leaving sky so that would free up that spot.

Actually heard that on Eurosport yesterday but didnt give it much credence

drogdub

godtabh wrote: »

Actually heard that on Eurosport yesterday but didnt give it much credence

Widely reported he is going to BMC

unichall

godtabh wrote: »

Not sure if its a good move for Kwiatkowski. I'd also fear for an Irish rider!

With Porte going to BMC I think it actually does Roche's grand tour ambitions no harm for a crack at the giro or vuelta

zurbfoundation

I believe Aquablue have lads coming in for 2016

Junior

Porte to BMC
Landa to Sky
Gadret not being kept on at Movistar
Chavanel released from IAM
Kwiatkoski is an interesting one, he's meant to have signed last year with Sky (signed maybe the wrong word, agreed to join) and seems to be getting cold feet.
It's also contract year for Cav ..
Boonen is staying with Etixx it was on belgian tv last week he's committed to them for another 2 seasons I think.

After that I can't remember - there's a few more on the move..

ROK ON

I would like to see Stannard or GT move to a classics team - I think they both need this to make the move from doing well (and winning semi classics) to winning a monument - they are both capable of this. I dont think either wil leave SKy however.

carltonleon

Junior wrote: »

It's also contract year for Cav ..

I think Cav needs to start winning a couple of stages ... If he is not winning them then he is not offering a lot to a top team.

Chips Lovell

Cannondale-Garmin may have another Irish rider on their books next year.

laraghrider

Rumours of Kitty being on the move as well but that may well be heat of the moment and still being raw having to sit out the tour.

gordongekko

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Cannondale-Garmin may have another Irish rider on their books next year.

Go on don't leave it like that?

godtabh

carltonleon wrote: »

I think Cav needs to start winning a couple of stages ... If he is not winning them then he is not offering a lot to a top team.

He's won a bit this year

omri

Junior wrote: »

Porte to BMC
Landa to Sky
Gadret not being kept on at Movistar
Chavanel released from IAM
Kwiatkoski is an interesting one, he's meant to have signed last year with Sky (signed maybe the wrong word, agreed to join) and seems to be getting cold feet.
It's also contract year for Cav ..
Boonen is staying with Etixx it was on belgian tv last week he's committed to them for another 2 seasons I think.

After that I can't remember - there's a few more on the move..

Read recently he was happy in Etixx and would like to stay with them. But time will tell.

carltonleon

godtabh wrote: »

He's won a bit this year

I know he has Godtabh, but really winning stages in the big tours is why he gets the big money. If he is not doing that regularly then the team and sponsors dont get their moneys worth in terms of exposure. Cav is there to finish the big races stages with the maximum sponsorship exposure, in my opinion.

godtabh

there you go!

stecleary

Dan Martins contract is up too. Will be interesting to see what happens there. Hard to see where he'd fit in at other teams

Pudsy33

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Cannondale-Garmin may have another Irish rider on their books next year.

Tell us. Dunbar or Mullen?

Pudsy33

stecleary wrote: »

Dan Martins contract is up too. Will be interesting to see what happens there. Hard to see where he'd fit in at other teams

It's a strange one. On one hand, I think he needs a stronger team around him than Garmin. On the other, I'm not sure who would take him. Sky need an ardenne guy but might be getting Kwiatowski. Also I doubt Martin wants to play domestique to any of the gc guys.

Junior

carltonleon wrote: »

I know he has Godtabh, but really winning stages in the big tours is why he gets the big money. If he is not doing that regularly then the team and sponsors dont get their moneys worth in terms of exposure. Cav is there to finish the big races stages with the maximum sponsorship exposure, in my opinion.

Cav has 13 wins to his name before today, this stage was his first ProTour win of the season. Just to clarify what level he's winning at. The same lad was criticizing Griepel a couple of years ago for winning sh*tty little races.

I can see Goss being released at the end of the year.

TheBlaaMan

Junior wrote: »

Cav has 13 wins to his name before today, this stage was his first ProTour win of the season. Just to clarify what level he's winning at. The same lad was criticizing Griepel a couple of years ago for winning sh*tty little races.

I can see Goss being released at the end of the year.

Given the increased level of risk that sprinters expose themselves to, I would not be at all surprised if he is going off the boil a bit. He is about to become a dad again and with two nippers to think about, he wouldn't be the first elite sportsman to reassess the risks he faces. That is going to blunt your edge when it comes to bumping shoulders at 70-80kmph in the sprint.

He doesnt really have much to prove at this point.

zurbfoundation

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Tell us. Dunbar or Mullen?

Im guessing Oirish-'Merican - Gavin Mannion

Brian?

Pudsy33 wrote: »

It's a strange one. On one hand, I think he needs a stronger team around him than Garmin. On the other, I'm not sure who would take him. Sky need an ardenne guy but might be getting Kwiatowski. Also I doubt Martin wants to play domestique to any of the gc guys.

He's done pretty well with Garmin: 2 monuments and a tour stage. Should have been 3 monuments, but for a fall on the last corner in LBL. He's won more monuments than Sky!

I actually hope he stays where he is, I don't think he has the potential to win a grand tour anyway.

godtabh

Porte is gone

http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/21683/9911490/richie-porte-to-leave-team-sky-at-the-end-of-the-season

Junior

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

He doesnt really have much to prove at this point.

I didn't say he had anything to prove, but if you are commanding a salary of his level and you take up 3-4 Slots on a team at Grand Tour time to do your job you need to have better results than he is currently having.

The interesting rumour over the past few days - Contador out the door from Saxo

odyssey06

Why would BMC be so keen on Porte? As team leader or support to Van Garderen?

godtabh

Junior wrote: »

The interesting rumour over the past few days - Contador out the door from Saxo

That I could see happening. I dont think he is happy with how Oleg runs things

RobFowl

godtabh wrote: »

Porte is gone

http://www1.skysports.com/cycling/news/21683/9911490/richie-porte-to-leave-team-sky-at-the-end-of-the-season

Right thing for him to do TBH. He needs to be able to finish his career saying he got a chance to lead teams at GT's on a regular basis.

Junior

godtabh wrote: »

That I could see happening. I dont think he is happy with how Oleg runs things

The destination is the interesting one - Etixx. I'd forgotten also our favourite Dane Chris Juul Jensen is off to Sky.

Brian?

odyssey06 wrote: »

Why would BMC be so keen on Porte? As team leader or support to Van Garderen?

As an alternative to Teejay in some races. They don't really have another GC man. Porte will never win a 3 week tour in my opinion, Teejay might.

godtabh

Junior wrote: »

The destination is the interesting one - Etixx. I'd forgotten also our favourite Dane Chris Juul Jensen is off to Sky.

Chris and Nico get on well. wonder did that have anything to do with it

TheBlaaMan

Junior wrote: »

The destination is the interesting one - Etixx. I'd forgotten also our favourite Dane Chris Juul Jensen is off to Sky.

Interesting indeed........that is then linked to Cavendish leaving and the team being built around a GC approach? Uran is out of contract too so that might work. Do you have a link for the Contador story? But did he not extend with Saxo back in the spring before Riis left through to the end of 2016 ?

Zipp101

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Cannondale-Garmin may have another Irish rider on their books next year.

Ryan Mullen.

And it was due to be announced today I believe.

godtabh

Zipp101 wrote: »

Ryan Mullen.

And it was due to be announced today I believe.

Fair play if true

laraghrider

Brian? wrote: »

As an alternative to Teejay in some races. They don't really have another GC man. Porte will never win a 3 week tour in my opinion, Teejay might.

BMC did ok with TeeJay and Cadel so I think they can manage just fine with Porte in there as well. Similar to Garmin having 3 GC riders this year albeit I don't think any of us expected 2 of those to actually challenge.

Porte has to move due to the plan a only approach of Sky. If he goes to BMC he'll get a full crack at a Giro, Vuelta and even be allowed to race at the tour. A great move for him, that said I don't think he has the staying power to win a GT.

Junior

laraghrider wrote: »

BMC did ok with TeeJay and Cadel so I think they can manage just fine with Porte in there as well. Similar to Garmin having 3 GC riders this year albeit I don't think any of us expected 2 of those to actually challenge.

Porte has to move due to the plan a only approach of Sky. If he goes to BMC he'll get a full crack at a Giro, Vuelta and even be allowed to race at the tour. A great move for him, that said I don't think he has the staying power to win a GT.

He got a full crack at the Giro this year, and I think that forced his hand, he was looking for a 2 Million per year contract if he won.

laraghrider

Junior wrote: »

He got a full crack at the Giro this year, and I think that forced his hand, he was looking for a 2 Million per year contract if he won.

Oh I know he did, complete with motor home and lets be honest it didn't exactly go to plan. I still don't think he's a 3 week man.

Brian?

laraghrider wrote: »

BMC did ok with TeeJay and Cadel so I think they can manage just fine with Porte in there as well. Similar to Garmin having 3 GC riders this year albeit I don't think any of us expected 2 of those to actually challenge.

Porte has to move due to the plan a only approach of Sky. If he goes to BMC he'll get a full crack at a Giro, Vuelta and even be allowed to race at the tour. A great move for him, that said I don't think he has the staying power to win a GT.

He may well get a full crack at the Vuelta or Giro, but he won't win either IMO. It's a good move for him though, he's a very capable week long tour rider and could well challenge in the Dauphine etc.

Chips Lovell

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Cannondale-Garmin may have another Irish rider on their books next year.

Confirmed today. Mullen going to Cannondale-Garmin

dastardly00

Jep Gambardella wrote: »

Confirmed today. Mullen going to Cannondale-Garmin

I'm not doubting that Mullen is actually joining Garmindale, but that article in Sticky Bottle doesn't actually confirm it. There are a lot of 'ifs'

Kavrocks

dastardly00 wrote: »

I'm not doubting that Mullen is actually joining Garmindale, but that article in Sticky Bottle doesn't actually confirm it. There are a lot of 'ifs'

Glad it wasn't just me it my sleep deprived state who thought that!

gordongekko

Well no signings can be announced before August 1st so there have to be "ifs" or Garmin would be in trouble.

Darkglasses

Any more word on Cav going to MTN Qhubeka? I heard MTN are pulling their support, which probably puts an end to that. Pity because that would be a really cool transfer.

Pudsy33

Darkglasses wrote: »

Any more word on Cav going to MTN Qhubeka? I heard MTN are pulling their support, which probably puts an end to that. Pity because that would be a really cool transfer.

They already have another sponsor in place.

dastardly00

gordongekko wrote: »

Well no signings can be announced before August 1st so there have to be "ifs" or Garmin would be in trouble.

Porte to BMC has been announced.

Eamonnator

Junior wrote: »

The destination is the interesting one - Etixx. I'd forgotten also our favourite Dane Chris Juul Jensen is off to Sky.

Is Chris Juul Jensen going to Sky?

RobFowl

dastardly00 wrote: »

I'm not doubting that Mullen is actually joining Garmindale, but that article in Sticky Bottle doesn't actually confirm it. There are a lot of 'ifs'

Ryan Mullen listed as a starter for Garmin Cannondale for tour of Utah so not much doubt !

Subpopulus

RobFowl wrote: »

Ryan Mullen listed as a starter for Garmin Cannondale for tour of Utah so not much doubt !

...I see he'll be facing up against his mortal enemy Campbell Flakemore of team BMC.

Subpopulus

A few other interesting tidbids from the Tour of Utah start list-

- I see that Chris Horner is with Airgas Safeway Cycling Team - I thought he was still with Lampre... Looks like the Vuelta will essentially be the last thing he wins.
- Tao Geoghegan Hart is with a US outfit called Axeon Cycling Team, despite being listed as a stagliare with Sky as of the 1st of August. What's the legality of this? I seem to recall him racing the Tour of Britain last year as part of some UK Development squad.
- Matt Brammeir is racing there with MTN Qhubeka.

gordongekko

dastardly00 wrote: »

Porte to BMC has been announced.

Linky??