Client confidentiality - drowning kittens

Kalman

nashipear wrote: »

So I have a client who told me they have a pregnant cat and that her dad is going to drown the kittens, I suggested just taking them to the rescue centre. I forgot about it until I got home and now it's playing on my mind.. Can I some how report this family without her finding out it was me?!

Get the cat neutered and the problem won't arise again! [simple]

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

You really don't understand the needs of animals. Looked after & chained can never go together.

(ii) does not threaten the health or welfare of the animal
or another animal

sometimes it is better to have the dog tied than have them out attacking other animals

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

sometimes it is better to have the dog tied than have them out attacking other animals

A responsible owner will train their dog not to attack other animals or people. What happens if the collar breaks?

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

A responsible owner will train their dog not to attack other animals or people. What happens if the collar breaks?

how would you go about that?

I'm sure the court/dog warden would take that into consideration

hullaballoo

Chained up dogs end up strangling themselves out of frustration on a regular basis. It is, at its zenith, reckless disregard to the animal's safety to tie a chain around it's neck and leave it unsupervised.

MarkAnthony

ganmo wrote: »

how would you go about that?

I'm sure the court/dog warden would take that into consideration

You've a dog that doesn't know not to attack other people? You need to have the dog euthanised and not get any more dogs.

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

how would you go about that?

I'm sure the court/dog warden would take that into consideration

Anyone who can't train a dog or can't be bothered to get a trainer shouldn't have one.

Discodog

hullaballoo wrote: »

Chained up dogs end up strangling themselves out of frustration on a regular basis. It is, at its zenith, reckless disregard to the animal's safety to tie a chain around it's neck and leave it unsupervised.

Exactly & that's why this section was included in the Act.

and
other structures used to contain the animal are constructed
and maintained in a manner so that they do not
cause injury or unnecessary suffering to the animal.

ganmo

MarkAnthony wrote: »

You've a dog that doesn't know not to attack other people? You need to have the dog euthanised and not get any more dogs.

you misunderstand what I'm trying to get at

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/3000-4000-sheep-attacked-dogs-every-year/

tying dogs up must be an option. chains with swivels can work well

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

you misunderstand what I'm trying to get at

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/3000-4000-sheep-attacked-dogs-every-year/

tying dogs up must be an option. chains with swivels can work well

No. Do it properly & erect a good fence.

MarkAnthony

Or keep the dog inside when you're not at home. When you do come home take it for a five mile walk and a two mile walk in the morning. If you're not up for this - don't get a dog.

My father is 74 and this has been his routine with his dogs going on 40 years.

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

No. Do it properly & erect a good fence.

yes that is better than being tied up, but i don't see how someone with a dog tied up cold be charged under that section dog(assuming dog is healthy etc)

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

yes that is better than being tied up, but i don't see how someone with a dog tied up cold be charged under that section dog(assuming dog is healthy etc)

Because tying a dog up isn't providing for it's needs. You may think that it's ok but the ISPCA & Vets don't. It's also unnecessary. I keep my two in the house. They get an off lead walk before I go to work & another when I get home. Tying a dog up is just laziness. It's still popular here because people won't spend the money & time to fence their garden.

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

Tying a dog up is just laziness.

but not illegal.

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

but not illegal.

The law is clear & ignorance of the law is no excuse. You can carry on chaining up your dog & unless someone reports you, nothing will happen.

Law isn't always specific. Offences like driving without due care are at the discretion of the Garda. It's the same with this legislation.

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

The law is clear & ignorance of the law is no excuse. You can carry on chaining up your dog & unless someone reports you, nothing will happen.

Law isn't always specific. Offences like driving without due care are at the discretion of the Garda. It's the same with this legislation.

you're contradicting yourself

Discodog

It clearly states that you must provide for the needs of your dog.

It allows an authorised officer to decide whether those needs are provided for.

Just as driving law says that you must drive carefully & allows a guard to decide on whether you are or not.

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

It clearly states that you must provide for the needs of your dog and other animals.

It allows an authorised officer to decide whether those needs are provided for.

Just as driving law says that you must drive carefully & allows a guard to decide on whether you are or not.

your dog's welfare is not the only animal's welfare that matters

if having your dog loose impacts on the health or welfare of another animal maybe you should have them tied up.

some people think muzzles are poor animal welfare but on the balance they are required sometimes and sometimes dogs need to be tied.

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

your dog's welfare is not the only animal's welfare that matters

if having your dog loose impacts on the health or welfare of another animal maybe you should have them tied up.

some people think muzzles are poor animal welfare but on the balance they are required sometimes and sometimes dogs need to be tied.

If your dog is a danger to animals or people you should train it not to. I have a Greyhound & I have trained her not to chase.

If you offered such an excuse in Court you would be admitting that you are an irresponsible owner with a potentially dangerous dog.

What happens when you encounter livestock whilst walking your dog off lead?

ganmo

Discodog wrote: »

If your dog is a danger to animals or people you should train it not to. I have a Greyhound & I have trained her not to chase.

If you offered such an excuse in Court you would be admitting that you are an irresponsible owner with a potentially dangerous dog.

What happens when you encounter livestock whilst walking your dog off lead?

all dogs are potentially dangerous and is being an irresponsible owner illegal?

so your dog doesn't fetch or play?

don't walk them off the lead...only way to guarantee effective control

Discodog

ganmo wrote: »

all dogs are potentially dangerous and is being an irresponsible owner illegal?

so your dog doesn't fetch or play?

don't walk them off the lead...only way to guarantee effective control

Yes
Yes
No.